Bucs getting Cassels!!!!!!!!!!
joestalin
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Tampa stations are reporting the deal is close.
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You sure the TB media isn't talking about "white castles"?
Edit to add: Gotta love trade rumors.
Raw: Tony Gonzalez (low #'d cards, and especially 1/1's) and Steve Young.
Clearing the cap space would be nice too
<< <i>Bucs getting Cassels!!!!!!!!!! >>
Perhaps by opening day of training camp you'll learn how to spell his name.
Meaning dont think he will win a Super Bowl for you guys anytime soon..
Sincerely,
Reality
I'm hearing that it's a fake post on the Bucs message board.
Story supposedly comes from FOX 13 in Tampa yet nothing on their website.
Is it worth it?
<< <i>If this happens it will probably cost Tampa this year's 1st round pick, #19 and next year's 2nd round.
Is it worth it? >>
I think so. The trade would be harder to do for the Chiefs because they have a top pick, but I would do it if I was KC also. Most teams will walk away from Draft day with a big IOU and a player that will not matter when all is said and done.
Then again, I approved of the Ditka-Williams deal....so perhaps I am not the one to comment.
Raw: Tony Gonzalez (low #'d cards, and especially 1/1's) and Steve Young.
If this doesn't happen Brad Johnson is available.
the pocket and delivers strikes. I only care that he gives the play a chance to develop instead giving up on it 1 second after the snap and then
running around like a chicken with its head lopped off!
Ever since I was a kid in orange pajamas, I dreamed of the Bucs being a team that could score at will...THIS might be the year! Where the heck is
Matt with an update, he is probably at JC Penny right now looking for Bucs jerseys!
BAM
JS
I'm sure glad I'm not a fan of that stinkin' team.
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Carolina now a possibility for Cassel according to foxsports.com.
Tampa stations picked up on a blog from NE -
Cassel goes to Bucs, no wait the Chiefs, no the Panthers
Hey how about trading a one pick for Rex Grossman? Brooks Bollinger? Gus Frerotte? Shaun King is ready. Cordell Stewart? No, they should hold out for Jon Kitna!
Cassel expected to be dealt to Chiefs
Posted: News | NFL.com Staff | Tags: Kansas City Chiefs, Matt Cassel, New England Patriots
The Kansas City Chiefs appear to have found their starting quarterback. NFL Network’s Adam Schefter reports the Chiefs are expected to trade for New England Patriots QB Matt Cassel on Saturday.
The teams have agreed on compensation, according to Schefter, but no details of the deal were immediately available.
Cassel was designated as the Patriots’ franchise player on Feb. 5, guaranteeing him $14.65 million next season. The signed tender was officially submitted to the league earlier this week.
Cassel saw the first significant action of his career last season, taking over as the starter for the injured Tom Brady in Week 2 and starting 15 games, completing 63.4 percent of his passes for 3,693 yards and 21 touchdowns with 11 interceptions.
Cassel would see some familiar faces in Kansas City. Schefter also reports Patriots linebacker Mike Vrabel wasin Kansas City on Friday undergoing a physical so that he can then be traded to the Chiefs. Vrabel later confirmed the trade in an email to The Boston Globe. Cassel and Vrabel would be playing for new Chiefs GM Scott Pioli, who was hired in January to oversee the team’s football operations after nine seasons in New England.
Bosox1976
<< <i>Rumor is both Pats for the #34 pick. Seems a little low, although you get great value at the top of the second round. >>
I hear that a third team could be involved, the Panthers.
Peppers.
Bosox1976
Just another premature exultation by Joestalin!!!
I hope the Pats have something else up their sleeve - seemed like the talk the past few weeks was that it would definitely take a 1st rounder to get Cassel ALONE, never mind with Vrabel.
CASSEL TO CHIEFS IS A DONE DEAL
Posted by Mike Florio: Saturday, February 28, 2009 2:12 PM
The Chiefs have formally announced the trade that will bring linebacker Mike Vrabel and quarterback Matt Cassel from New England to Kansas City.
The announcement confirms that both players were obtained in exchange for the Chiefs' second-round draft pick in 2009.
“I have a long history with both players,” G.M. Scott Pioli said in a release. “Mike and Matt are men that I respect both personally and professionally. I look forward to having them as new members of the Chiefs family.”
The Patriots also have issued a release announcing the deal. And coach Bill Belichick gushed about both players.
"When Mike arrived in 2001, we knew we were adding a solid outside linebacker,” Belichick said. “But where Mike took it from there exceeded our highest hopes. Mike Vrabel epitomizes everything a coach could seek in a professional football player: toughness, intelligence, playmaking, leadership, versatility, and consistency at the highest level. Behind the scenes, Mike's wit and personality is one of the things we have all enjoyed about coming to work every day.
"The toughest aspect of my job is the day I stop coaching people like Mike, who did everything in his power to contribute to team success. Of all the players I have coached in my career, there is nobody I enjoyed working with more than Mike In the same way people recognize guys like Troy Brown, we appreciate and thank Mike Vrabel. He is one of the very special Patriots champions."
Belichick also praised Cassel: "It is very easy to root for guys like Matt Cassel, who do everything the right way and flourish as a result. As much as we would have loved to continue working with Matt, we wish him nothing but the best as he takes this next step forward in his career."
So, again, why did they give up both guys for only a second-round pick?
Raw: Tony Gonzalez (low #'d cards, and especially 1/1's) and Steve Young.
Tyler Thigpen.
REPORTS: BRONCOS ENTERTAINED TRADING CUTLER
Posted by Mike Florio: Saturday, February 28, 2009 4:22 PM
Adam Schefter of NFL Network and Vic Lombardi of CBS4 in Denver report that the Broncos have been shopping quarterback Jay Cutler.
Per both reports, the Bucs and Broncos were trying to swing a three-way deal pursuant to which Matt Cassel would have been traded from the Pats to the Broncos, Cutler would have gone from Denver to Tampa, and the Patriots would have been compensated presumably by the Buccaneers.
According to Schefter, the Lions also approached the Broncos about a trade for Cutler.
And here's where it gets interesting. Schefter's version creates the impression that the Broncos didn't initiate the talks, and merely responded to the offers presented. Vic Lombardi's version suggests that the Broncos were and are shopping the eleventh overall pick in the 2006 draft.
"I've heard the rumors," Cutler told Vic Lombardi. "I know what they're trying to do. Even though I love Denver and I'd love to remain a Bronco, I know how this business works. If they want me to play somewhere else, so be it."
Despite Cutler's generally P.C. comments, Schefter contends that Cutler was angered by the news.
There's a consensus in league circles that Cutler has plateaued after showing some improvement early in the 2008 season. He has been criticized in some circles for having a nonchalant demeanor.
The reality is that, whenever there's a new coach, there's a chance that he'll want to pick his own quarterback. Regardless of whether the Broncos initiated the trade talks, the fact that the Broncos said anything other than "hell no" suggests that new coach Josh McDaniels wants to go in a different direction.
Bosox1976
Hey, they do say KC is a great place to get a steak!
Seriously, this chick showed up at the Patriots cheerleader tryouts today.
Somebody counted their chicken before it hatched.
<< <i>A second rounder for Cassel and Vrabel seems EXTREMELY low, especially considering Sage Rosenfels was just traded for a 4th round pick, and the aforementioned Schaub trade.
I hope the Pats have something else up their sleeve - seemed like the talk the past few weeks was that it would definitely take a 1st rounder to get Cassel ALONE, never mind with Vrabel. >>
Maybe Tony Gonzalez might factor into this deal as well...after all, he has been trying to get out of KC, and wants to go to a Super Bowl caliber team.
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JS
<< <i>Patsies giving away any other players?
JS >>
The Chiefs don't need Barbie doll Croyle anymore.
He's really, really, good.........................................at getting his bones broken.
Will the Bucs win even 5 games this season? LMAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Bosox1976
<< <i>Patsies giving away any other players?
JS >>
LMAO, this is clearly a statement coming from a fellow who clearly doesnt understand the game of Football. Bottom line we didnt "Give" anyone away- we got rid of a player and got a value pick from the Chiefs, right from jump street its about money, sure we could have gotten a top 10 pick for Cassel but instead we use the money we would have needed for that top 10 pick to sign Vince Wilfork, who is a future HOF mind you. Now we are not cash strapped to use the rest of our cap money to sign other proven players.
Edit: Im an idiot, I used the YUCS instead of CHIEFS
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<< <i>Patsies giving away any other players?
JS >>
LMAO, this is clearly a statement coming from a fellow who clearly doesnt understand the game of Football. Bottom line we didnt "Give" anyone away- we got rid of a player and got a value pick from your YUCS, right from jump street its about money, sure we could have gotten a top 10 pick for Cassel but instead we use the money we would have needed for that top 10 pick to sign Vince Wilfork, who is a future HOF mind you. Now we are not cash strappeed to use the rest of our cap money to sign other proven players. It works out for both sides on paper but unlike the Pats you guys keep thinking that Cassels will lead you to the Super Bowl- good luck with that! LOL- NO WR's and a Defense falling apart at the seams! >>
Except, the Chiefs got Cassel.
Raw: Tony Gonzalez (low #'d cards, and especially 1/1's) and Steve Young.
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<< <i>Patsies giving away any other players?
JS >>
LMAO, this is clearly a statement coming from a fellow who clearly doesnt understand the game of Football. Bottom line we didnt "Give" anyone away- we got rid of a player and got a value pick from your YUCS, right from jump street its about money, sure we could have gotten a top 10 pick for Cassel but instead we use the money we would have needed for that top 10 pick to sign Vince Wilfork, who is a future HOF mind you. Now we are not cash strappeed to use the rest of our cap money to sign other proven players. It works out for both sides on paper but unlike the Pats you guys keep thinking that Cassels will lead you to the Super Bowl- good luck with that! LOL- NO WR's and a Defense falling apart at the seams! >>
Except, the Chiefs got Cassel. >>
My bad-
But the point remains the same- we didnt "Give" anyone away! And his YUCS still have no WR's and their defense is falling apart at the seams.
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<< <i>Patsies giving away any other players?
JS >>
LMAO, this is clearly a statement coming from a fellow who clearly doesnt understand the game of Football. Bottom line we didnt "Give" anyone away- we got rid of a player and got a value pick from your YUCS, right from jump street its about money, sure we could have gotten a top 10 pick for Cassel but instead we use the money we would have needed for that top 10 pick to sign Vince Wilfork, who is a future HOF mind you. Now we are not cash strappeed to use the rest of our cap money to sign other proven players. It works out for both sides on paper but unlike the Pats you guys keep thinking that Cassels will lead you to the Super Bowl- good luck with that! LOL- NO WR's and a Defense falling apart at the seams! >>
Except, the Chiefs got Cassel. >>
My bad-
But the point remains the same- we didnt "Give" anyone away! And his YUCS still have no WR's and their defense is falling apart at the seams. >>
I think it is fair to say the Patriot gave away two solid players for very little. I do agree with you that it does look alright for the Pats however because of the salary cap. I guess that is why they didn't go for the Chiefs #5 overall....but I think it would still have been a good Chiefs deal even with parting with the top pick. Perhaps they should have went for the Chiefs #1 2010 pick?
Anyway as long as Belicheck (msp) is there....I have no question that they are playing smart ball....even when something like this doesn't exactly look even on paper.
Raw: Tony Gonzalez (low #'d cards, and especially 1/1's) and Steve Young.
Hey if Im the Chiefs Im excited- no doubt about that however the lack of a solid O-Line + no WR's could spell trouble no matter how well Cassel did in NE.
JS
<< <i>Patsies gave away Casell and when Brady breaks down again this year, who you gonna call then?
JS >>
Listen Bugle Boy, I went out of my way to educate you a few posts ago, if you refuse to listen then please move along and let the adults talk.
JS >>
Listen Bugle Boy, I went out of my way to educate you a few posts ago, if you refuse to listen then please move along and let the adults talk.
It's been documented that excessive blowing of an instrument depletes the oxygen supply to the brain thereby causing the subject to spew nonsensical garbage, especially when it comes to sports...
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