Bucs getting Cassels!!!!!!!!!!

joestalin · February 27, 2009 7:48AM

Tampa stations are reporting the deal is close.

JS

goose3 · February 27, 2009 7:49AM

I'd really love to spoof this thread.

Barndog · February 27, 2009 7:51AM

good for TB and good for Matt Cassel! TB should be a playoff team next year.

Barndog · February 27, 2009 7:52AM

hmmm, boston.com (Boston Globe) has nothing about this, zip, nada, naught

You sure the TB media isn't talking about "white castles"?

MeteoriteGuy · February 27, 2009 7:56AM

I am hearing Cassel could be part of the Vrabel deal.....meaning he could be heading to KC.

Edit to add: Gotta love trade rumors.

Barndog · February 27, 2009 7:59AM

all that matters is that the Pats get another first round pick in the middle of the round and a later pick...so they can work on their defense!

Clearing the cap space would be nice too

SoFLPhillyFan · February 27, 2009 8:33AM

<< Bucs getting Cassels!!!!!!!!!! >>

Perhaps by opening day of training camp you'll learn how to spell his name.

perkdog · February 27, 2009 8:58AM

Just remeber the Tampa Bay system & coaching staff is a far cry from New Englands.

Meaning dont think he will win a Super Bowl for you guys anytime soon..

Sincerely,

Reality

SoFLPhillyFan · February 27, 2009 9:15AM

May be a cruel rumor.

I'm hearing that it's a fake post on the Bucs message board.

Story supposedly comes from FOX 13 in Tampa yet nothing on their website.

SoFLPhillyFan · February 27, 2009 9:29AM

If this happens it will probably cost Tampa this year's 1st round pick, #19 and next year's 2nd round.

Is it worth it?

MeteoriteGuy · February 27, 2009 9:38AM

<< If this happens it will probably cost Tampa this year's 1st round pick, #19 and next year's 2nd round.

Is it worth it? >>

I think so. The trade would be harder to do for the Chiefs because they have a top pick, but I would do it if I was KC also. Most teams will walk away from Draft day with a big IOU and a player that will not matter when all is said and done.

Then again, I approved of the Ditka-Williams deal....so perhaps I am not the one to comment.

SoFLPhillyFan · February 27, 2009 9:45AM

I think he winds up in KC with Pioli.

SoFLPhillyFan · February 27, 2009 10:40AM

Look on the bright side.

If this doesn't happen Brad Johnson is available.

joestalin · February 27, 2009 1:27PM

I don't care how to spell his name, I only care that he can throw the ball to OUR players and throw TD's in the red zone, I only care that he stays in
the pocket and delivers strikes. I only care that he gives the play a chance to develop instead giving up on it 1 second after the snap and then
running around like a chicken with its head lopped off!

Ever since I was a kid in orange pajamas, I dreamed of the Bucs being a team that could score at will...THIS might be the year! Where the heck is
Matt with an update, he is probably at JC Penny right now looking for Bucs jerseys!

BAM

JS

stevek · February 27, 2009 1:45PM

A non-contending team giving up draft picks - that's a recipe for long term disaster. Appears as though Bucs management got even dumber than they were.

I'm sure glad I'm not a fan of that stinkin' team.

grote15 · February 27, 2009 1:47PM

Bucs blow, just like little Kevin with his tin horn...

Dave99B · February 27, 2009 1:55PM

Wet dream?

Dave

SoFLPhillyFan · February 27, 2009 8:31PM

Carolina now a possibility for Cassel according to foxsports.com.

SoFLPhillyFan · February 27, 2009 8:39PM

Sorry to crap in your tuba, but this is just a rumor.

Tampa stations picked up on a blog from NE -

Cassel goes to Bucs, no wait the Chiefs, no the Panthers

SoFLPhillyFan · February 28, 2009 3:48AM

Goes to the Chiefs.

Hey how about trading a one pick for Rex Grossman? Brooks Bollinger? Gus Frerotte? Shaun King is ready. Cordell Stewart? No, they should hold out for Jon Kitna!

Cassel expected to be dealt to Chiefs

Posted: News | NFL.com Staff | Tags: Kansas City Chiefs, Matt Cassel, New England Patriots

The Kansas City Chiefs appear to have found their starting quarterback. NFL Network’s Adam Schefter reports the Chiefs are expected to trade for New England Patriots QB Matt Cassel on Saturday.

The teams have agreed on compensation, according to Schefter, but no details of the deal were immediately available.

Cassel was designated as the Patriots’ franchise player on Feb. 5, guaranteeing him $14.65 million next season. The signed tender was officially submitted to the league earlier this week.

Cassel saw the first significant action of his career last season, taking over as the starter for the injured Tom Brady in Week 2 and starting 15 games, completing 63.4 percent of his passes for 3,693 yards and 21 touchdowns with 11 interceptions.

Cassel would see some familiar faces in Kansas City. Schefter also reports Patriots linebacker Mike Vrabel wasin Kansas City on Friday undergoing a physical so that he can then be traded to the Chiefs. Vrabel later confirmed the trade in an email to The Boston Globe. Cassel and Vrabel would be playing for new Chiefs GM Scott Pioli, who was hired in January to oversee the team’s football operations after nine seasons in New England.

tennesseebanker · February 28, 2009 4:08AM

Done Deal Cassell to Chiefs................

Bosox1976 · February 28, 2009 4:30AM

Rumor is both Pats for the #34 pick. Seems a little low, although you get great value at the top of the second round.

SoFLPhillyFan · February 28, 2009 4:36AM

<< Rumor is both Pats for the #34 pick. Seems a little low, although you get great value at the top of the second round. >>

I hear that a third team could be involved, the Panthers.

Peppers.

Bosox1976 · February 28, 2009 4:48AM

Falcons got 2 second round picks for Schaub a year ago, so I hope you are right SoFLPhillyFan.

lsutigers1973 · February 28, 2009 5:06AM

Just another premature exultation by Joestalin!!!

jdip9 · February 28, 2009 5:27AM

A second rounder for Cassel and Vrabel seems EXTREMELY low, especially considering Sage Rosenfels was just traded for a 4th round pick, and the aforementioned Schaub trade.

I hope the Pats have something else up their sleeve - seemed like the talk the past few weeks was that it would definitely take a 1st rounder to get Cassel ALONE, never mind with Vrabel.

SoFLPhillyFan · February 28, 2009 6:28AM

Guess it really is a 2nd round only. Interesting.

CASSEL TO CHIEFS IS A DONE DEAL
Posted by Mike Florio: Saturday, February 28, 2009 2:12 PM
The Chiefs have formally announced the trade that will bring linebacker Mike Vrabel and quarterback Matt Cassel from New England to Kansas City.

The announcement confirms that both players were obtained in exchange for the Chiefs' second-round draft pick in 2009.

“I have a long history with both players,” G.M. Scott Pioli said in a release. “Mike and Matt are men that I respect both personally and professionally. I look forward to having them as new members of the Chiefs family.”

The Patriots also have issued a release announcing the deal. And coach Bill Belichick gushed about both players.

"When Mike arrived in 2001, we knew we were adding a solid outside linebacker,” Belichick said. “But where Mike took it from there exceeded our highest hopes. Mike Vrabel epitomizes everything a coach could seek in a professional football player: toughness, intelligence, playmaking, leadership, versatility, and consistency at the highest level. Behind the scenes, Mike's wit and personality is one of the things we have all enjoyed about coming to work every day.

"The toughest aspect of my job is the day I stop coaching people like Mike, who did everything in his power to contribute to team success. Of all the players I have coached in my career, there is nobody I enjoyed working with more than Mike In the same way people recognize guys like Troy Brown, we appreciate and thank Mike Vrabel. He is one of the very special Patriots champions."

Belichick also praised Cassel: "It is very easy to root for guys like Matt Cassel, who do everything the right way and flourish as a result. As much as we would have loved to continue working with Matt, we wish him nothing but the best as he takes this next step forward in his career."

So, again, why did they give up both guys for only a second-round pick?

Barndog · February 28, 2009 6:34AM

wow, NE got next to nothing. This must mean the Lions are committed to a QB at the #1 pick. Huge salary dump by NE...a big free agent signing coming?

MeteoriteGuy · February 28, 2009 6:34AM

Thank you New England for two solid players. Thank you JS for a laugh.

SoFLPhillyFan · February 28, 2009 6:40AM

Bucs may try for KCs left overs.

Tyler Thigpen.

SoFLPhillyFan · February 28, 2009 6:46AM

Another twist. If the Bucs want a Broncos QB they should just call Jake Plummer back.

REPORTS: BRONCOS ENTERTAINED TRADING CUTLER
Posted by Mike Florio: Saturday, February 28, 2009 4:22 PM
Adam Schefter of NFL Network and Vic Lombardi of CBS4 in Denver report that the Broncos have been shopping quarterback Jay Cutler.

Per both reports, the Bucs and Broncos were trying to swing a three-way deal pursuant to which Matt Cassel would have been traded from the Pats to the Broncos, Cutler would have gone from Denver to Tampa, and the Patriots would have been compensated presumably by the Buccaneers.

According to Schefter, the Lions also approached the Broncos about a trade for Cutler.

And here's where it gets interesting. Schefter's version creates the impression that the Broncos didn't initiate the talks, and merely responded to the offers presented. Vic Lombardi's version suggests that the Broncos were and are shopping the eleventh overall pick in the 2006 draft.

"I've heard the rumors," Cutler told Vic Lombardi. "I know what they're trying to do. Even though I love Denver and I'd love to remain a Bronco, I know how this business works. If they want me to play somewhere else, so be it."

Despite Cutler's generally P.C. comments, Schefter contends that Cutler was angered by the news.

There's a consensus in league circles that Cutler has plateaued after showing some improvement early in the 2008 season. He has been criticized in some circles for having a nonchalant demeanor.

The reality is that, whenever there's a new coach, there's a chance that he'll want to pick his own quarterback. Regardless of whether the Broncos initiated the trade talks, the fact that the Broncos said anything other than "hell no" suggests that new coach Josh McDaniels wants to go in a different direction.

stown · February 28, 2009 7:20AM

I haven't used this picture in a while but it's so appropriate here.

Bosox1976 · February 28, 2009 7:40AM

D'oh! would work too.

lsutigers1973 · February 28, 2009 7:40AM

Thanks stown. Just saved pic to photobucket for future joestalin reference.

SoFLPhillyFan · February 28, 2009 8:42AM

Patriots also picked up this Chiefs cheerleader in the deal.

Hey, they do say KC is a great place to get a steak!

Seriously, this chick showed up at the Patriots cheerleader tryouts today.

stevek · February 28, 2009 9:42AM

<<< Bucs getting Cassels!!!!!!!!!! >>>

Somebody counted their chicken before it hatched.

purduepete · February 28, 2009 10:16AM

<< A second rounder for Cassel and Vrabel seems EXTREMELY low, especially considering Sage Rosenfels was just traded for a 4th round pick, and the aforementioned Schaub trade.

I hope the Pats have something else up their sleeve - seemed like the talk the past few weeks was that it would definitely take a 1st rounder to get Cassel ALONE, never mind with Vrabel. >>

Maybe Tony Gonzalez might factor into this deal as well...after all, he has been trying to get out of KC, and wants to go to a Super Bowl caliber team.

joestalin · February 28, 2009 1:10PM

Patsies giving away any other players?

JS

Darin · February 28, 2009 1:16PM

<< Patsies giving away any other players?

JS >>

you funny comrade Stalin.

The Chiefs don't need Barbie doll Croyle anymore.
He's really, really, good.........................................at getting his bones broken.

grote15 · February 28, 2009 3:23PM

Maybe Chrissy Simms will be back, or Steve DeBerg...

Will the Bucs win even 5 games this season? LMAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

joestalin · February 28, 2009 3:33PM

Simms wasn't Chuckies idea it was the Glazers, how many rings would Grud has given us if we would of had a real qb instead of Shaun King, Gradkowski, Simms,
Griese.....

stevek · February 28, 2009 3:37PM

Twenty years from now, Stalin will still be grieving over Gruden's departure.

Bosox1976 · March 1, 2009 5:44AM

Mort is reporting that the Pats turned down the three way trade that would have sent Cassel to Denver, Cutler to TB, and a first rounder to the Pats - either he doesn't want to help Denver or he likes the price point of a high second round talent better. Interesting.

perkdog · March 2, 2009 1:42AM

<< Patsies giving away any other players?

JS >>

LMAO, this is clearly a statement coming from a fellow who clearly doesnt understand the game of Football. Bottom line we didnt "Give" anyone away- we got rid of a player and got a value pick from the Chiefs, right from jump street its about money, sure we could have gotten a top 10 pick for Cassel but instead we use the money we would have needed for that top 10 pick to sign Vince Wilfork, who is a future HOF mind you. Now we are not cash strapped to use the rest of our cap money to sign other proven players.

Edit: Im an idiot, I used the YUCS instead of CHIEFS

MeteoriteGuy · March 2, 2009 1:48AM

<< 

<< Patsies giving away any other players?

JS >>

LMAO, this is clearly a statement coming from a fellow who clearly doesnt understand the game of Football. Bottom line we didnt "Give" anyone away- we got rid of a player and got a value pick from your YUCS, right from jump street its about money, sure we could have gotten a top 10 pick for Cassel but instead we use the money we would have needed for that top 10 pick to sign Vince Wilfork, who is a future HOF mind you. Now we are not cash strappeed to use the rest of our cap money to sign other proven players. It works out for both sides on paper but unlike the Pats you guys keep thinking that Cassels will lead you to the Super Bowl- good luck with that! LOL- NO WR's and a Defense falling apart at the seams! >>

Except, the Chiefs got Cassel.

perkdog · March 2, 2009 1:51AM

<< 

<< 

<< Patsies giving away any other players?

JS >>

LMAO, this is clearly a statement coming from a fellow who clearly doesnt understand the game of Football. Bottom line we didnt "Give" anyone away- we got rid of a player and got a value pick from your YUCS, right from jump street its about money, sure we could have gotten a top 10 pick for Cassel but instead we use the money we would have needed for that top 10 pick to sign Vince Wilfork, who is a future HOF mind you. Now we are not cash strappeed to use the rest of our cap money to sign other proven players. It works out for both sides on paper but unlike the Pats you guys keep thinking that Cassels will lead you to the Super Bowl- good luck with that! LOL- NO WR's and a Defense falling apart at the seams! >>

Except, the Chiefs got Cassel. >>

My bad-

But the point remains the same- we didnt "Give" anyone away! And his YUCS still have no WR's and their defense is falling apart at the seams.

MeteoriteGuy · March 2, 2009 2:41AM

<< 

<< 

<< 

<< Patsies giving away any other players?

JS >>

LMAO, this is clearly a statement coming from a fellow who clearly doesnt understand the game of Football. Bottom line we didnt "Give" anyone away- we got rid of a player and got a value pick from your YUCS, right from jump street its about money, sure we could have gotten a top 10 pick for Cassel but instead we use the money we would have needed for that top 10 pick to sign Vince Wilfork, who is a future HOF mind you. Now we are not cash strappeed to use the rest of our cap money to sign other proven players. It works out for both sides on paper but unlike the Pats you guys keep thinking that Cassels will lead you to the Super Bowl- good luck with that! LOL- NO WR's and a Defense falling apart at the seams! >>

Except, the Chiefs got Cassel. >>

My bad-

But the point remains the same- we didnt "Give" anyone away! And his YUCS still have no WR's and their defense is falling apart at the seams. >>

I think it is fair to say the Patriot gave away two solid players for very little. I do agree with you that it does look alright for the Pats however because of the salary cap. I guess that is why they didn't go for the Chiefs #5 overall....but I think it would still have been a good Chiefs deal even with parting with the top pick. Perhaps they should have went for the Chiefs #1 2010 pick?

Anyway as long as Belicheck (msp) is there....I have no question that they are playing smart ball....even when something like this doesn't exactly look even on paper.

perkdog · March 2, 2009 4:23AM

Not to mention Vrabel has 10+ years of mileage on him and reports are that his shoulder might be an issue for him as well.

Hey if Im the Chiefs Im excited- no doubt about that however the lack of a solid O-Line + no WR's could spell trouble no matter how well Cassel did in NE.

joestalin · March 2, 2009 6:15AM

Patsies gave away Casell and when Brady breaks down again this year, who you gonna call then?

JS

perkdog · March 2, 2009 6:42AM

<< Patsies gave away Casell and when Brady breaks down again this year, who you gonna call then?

JS >>

Listen Bugle Boy, I went out of my way to educate you a few posts ago, if you refuse to listen then please move along and let the adults talk.

grote15 · March 2, 2009 9:23AM

< Patsies gave away Casell and when Brady breaks down again this year, who you gonna call then?

JS >>

Listen Bugle Boy, I went out of my way to educate you a few posts ago, if you refuse to listen then please move along and let the adults talk.

It's been documented that excessive blowing of an instrument depletes the oxygen supply to the brain thereby causing the subject to spew nonsensical garbage, especially when it comes to sports...

Bucs getting Cassels!!!!!!!!!!

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