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A couple of new purchases

A couple of newly acquired 1/3 farthings courtesy of Rob (rpcoins.co.uk.) to complete my collection.
The 1844 is graded MS64 BN by PCGS but they have made a mistake on the label and called it a 1/2 farthing. I'll have to ship it off to get it amended as I want it on my registry set.

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and a "A delightful Victorian high quality wood engraving. This view appeared in 'London Old And New,' a series of illustrated topographical studies which was first published by Cassell, Petter and Galpin in the early1880s."

for under £10 which I thought was quite interesting.

It shows the interior of the mint in about 1820.
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  • SYRACUSIANSYRACUSIAN Posts: 6,472 ✭✭✭✭
    Nice coins and interesting engraving Hus. Good luck with the re-encapsulation.
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  • AZLARRYAZLARRY Posts: 1,189 ✭✭
    Very nice well matched coins and that wood engraving is very detailed and high quality, thanks for sharing.
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  • coinpicturescoinpictures Posts: 5,345 ✭✭✭
    Nice 44. Tough date. Yours is nicer than mine (both numerically and aesthetically) which is an NGC 63BN, but mine is somewhat unique in that it's a curved clip error (denoted on the holder). Darned if I can remember where I bought it... might have been a NEN purchase.

    I'm not seeing mint state 44s all that often...
  • zeebobzeebob Posts: 2,825
    Fantastic engraving!
  • HussuloHussulo Posts: 2,953 ✭✭✭
    Thanks all. I agree about the 44 being tough I've been looking for a nice one for a while.

    Coinpictures yours sounds interesting as it is in MS and an error as well. I would like to see it if you ever get a chance to upload it.

    I am hopping the 84 will come back around the MS63 mark. It doesn't have any noticeable wear, the obverse is nice the detail in the hair is all there but the reverse is a bit weakly in places.

    If the 84 comes back in MS63 or higher I will have a complete set in PCGS MS63 or higher.

    You can view my 1/3 farthing registry set here:
    http://www.pcgs.com/setregistry/alltimeset.aspx?s=46740


    You can view my other 1/3 farthings (non Victoria) along with a couple of my other coins here:
    http://www.pcgs.com/setregistry/MemberImageGallery.aspx?m=14010


  • interesting to see what a mint looked like back then.
  • sumnomsumnom Posts: 5,963 ✭✭✭
    I love the engraving. I wonder how accurate it is. How many coins could such an operation produce?


  • << <i>I love the engraving. I wonder how accurate it is. How many coins could such an operation produce? >>


    The engraving shows 3 active stations and 3 inactive stations, so let's assume that was typical and the average number being operated during the period. If you posit that stiking of a single coin took on average 10 seconds, (from the placing of a planchet in place to the placing of the next planchet), then they could produce approximately 1,080 finished coins per hour, and if we assume a typical workday of 9 to 10 hours, (people worked harder and longer during that period), then we would see a production rate of between 9,700 and 10,800 coins per day, so I believe 10,000 coins (of all denominations) per day would be a reasonable guestimate, which would amount to about 667 coins per day per employed worker, not counting management and supervisors. or would it include preparation of the planchets.

    In a years time, (assuming a 6 day work week), production of all denominations would total only about 3 million coins. If that is inconsistent with historical mintage for the period, then I have made incorrect assumptions. Since I don't collect British coinage of the period, I wouldn't know whether or not my guessed production rate is reasonable.
  • Not sure about other denominations, but an average of about 3 million coins per year fits in the range of Farthing production for the early/mid 19th century.

    That is a cool engraving! I tend to forget that real people actually handled my 1700's and 1800's coins when they were new. With the way the machines pump out coins today, many make it into collections without ever being touched by human hands. Not so back then!

    It's one of the things I really get a kick out of with collecting - the history!

    Thanks for showing us that!
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