Counterfeit 1871 Shallow N Indian Cent

The 1871 Shallow N is a very scarce reverse type. Many may have never even see a real one in hand, so this fake will fool just about anyone!
1871 Shallow N on ebay


By itself no one would have any problem with this coins authenticity. But once you compare it with this known one, it become very worrisome.
A known fake (scroll down to bottom of the page)

Although one has a die break over the OF and the other doesn't, they are from the same obverse. See the mark on the neck on both! I don't think the reverse dies are the same.
1871 Shallow N on ebay
By itself no one would have any problem with this coins authenticity. But once you compare it with this known one, it become very worrisome.
A known fake (scroll down to bottom of the page)

Although one has a die break over the OF and the other doesn't, they are from the same obverse. See the mark on the neck on both! I don't think the reverse dies are the same.
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If it weren't for that characteristic gouge on the neck, it's a really good fake. I see a few other minor parallels between the two coins pictured.
If I had just one coin and no way of knowing the die indicators:
The only thing I could say is that the devices and lettering seem unusually deep. The "N" in cent might be shallow, but the rest of it looks deeper than usual.
This coin would fool me good. I feel sick.
I did.
Have these been around for a while, or is this something new out of China?
That is a VERY scary fake, I never would have caught it....
Recipient of the coveted "You Suck" award, April 2009 for cherrypicking a 1833 CBHD LM-5, and April 2022 for a 1835 LM-12, and again in Aug 2012 for picking off a 1952 FS-902.
<< <i>Rick,
Have these been around for a while, or is this something new out of China?
That is a VERY scary fake, I never would have caught it....
If I remember correctly, these were known in the 1980s and in one of the 2 ANA counterfeit guide books.
Where is the best public display of a counterfeit (cent or otherwise) coin die collection?
I've seen one or two at a time, but not a collection.
That is something I would like to see.
Similarly, how about a public display of a fourree collection?