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  • Steve27Steve27 Posts: 13,277 ✭✭✭
    I wonder if the glare, which covers part of the cert number, was intentional. Did you notice the separate pic of the obverse, is of a proof coin?

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  • GilroyGoneWildGilroyGoneWild Posts: 24


    << <i>I wonder if the glare, which covers part of the cert number, was intentional >>



    No glare picture has been photo-shop to hide cert number.

    save the picture then open it up in paint you can clearly see its been doctored

    All the info has been cut and pasted on that grayish background also
  • ManorcourtmanManorcourtman Posts: 8,394 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Reported
  • frnklnlvrfrnklnlvr Posts: 2,750 ✭
    Yea I reported it also. Was the label taken from a real holder? The font doesn't look right.
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  • PawPaulPawPaul Posts: 5,845 ✭
    the auction has ended but the seller is still active -

    how is it such a blatant scammer is not bamned ?
  • ibzman350ibzman350 Posts: 5,315 ✭
    The Mayo clinic thing................................very touching indeed

    Herb
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  • frnklnlvrfrnklnlvr Posts: 2,750 ✭


    << <i>the auction has ended but the seller is still active -

    how is it such a blatant scammer is not bamned ? >>



    The seller ended it though, not Ebay.
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  • BarryBarry Posts: 10,100 ✭✭✭
    Seller's not in China. That's a surprise!
  • barbershopperbarbershopper Posts: 1,201
    93.8 % FB rating on about 100 FBs. Rediculous!
    I don't do business with less that 99.8%.
    JT
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    I collect all 20th century series except gold including those series that ended there.
  • AUandAGAUandAG Posts: 25,029 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Seller's not in China. That's a surprise! >>



    You may be wrong there. Minnesota has the largest Asian population of
    any state in the US. But, that is a good example of a poor scammer!

    bob
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  • PerryHallPerryHall Posts: 47,509 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Ironically, the label indicates that this coin was graded by the FBI.image

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  • InternetJunkyInternetJunky Posts: 2,329 ✭


    << <i>Ironically, the label indicates that this coin was graded by the FBI.image >>



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  • commoncents123commoncents123 Posts: 2,648 ✭
    preposterous
  • northcoinnorthcoin Posts: 4,987 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Ironically, the label indicates that this coin was graded by the FBI.image >>




    I was curious if anyone else caught that!
  • PawPaulPawPaul Posts: 5,845 ✭


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    << <i>the auction has ended but the seller is still active -

    how is it such a blatant scammer is not bamned ? >>



    The seller ended it though, not Ebay. >>




    so much then for ebay being on the ball quickly -and protecting us from fraud ..........
  • ManorcourtmanManorcourtman Posts: 8,394 ✭✭✭✭✭


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    << <i>the auction has ended but the seller is still active -

    how is it such a blatant scammer is not bamned ? >>



    The seller ended it though, not Ebay. >>




    so much then for ebay being on the ball quickly -and protecting us from fraud .......... >>



    eBay pulled the auction after she ended it. It no longer exists. BTW I emailed her this morning with the following message "Nice scam/fraudulent auction!" Here was her pathetic response:

    You didn't need to send such a nasty email. A simple question would have been sufficient. As a result of your questioning the authenticity of my coin, I ended the auction early, and put a post on my ebay page explaining that when someone has a concern about the validity of one of my items, I take action to remedy the situation. We have to leave for Mayo Clinic shortly, our grandson has a cyst growing out of the bone in his leg, and we are his foster parents. Right now my main concern is for his health, but I wanted you to know that everything on that auction was the absolute truth as I know it from the auction the coin was purchased from. Please check out my ebay page for more information.
    flygirl15
  • LikesLincolnLikesLincoln Posts: 192
    Since this person is clearly not a coin dealer it is possible that she was the person who was scammed when she bought whatever the heck that is she is selling.
  • ManorcourtmanManorcourtman Posts: 8,394 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Since this person is clearly not a coin dealer it is possible that she was the person who was scammed when she bought whatever the heck that is she is selling. >>



    Not hardly. The auction stated that she would not be available from 2/22 to 2/24 because she would be at the hospital. Well isn't it amazing she responded to my accusation within 15 minutes on a day she wasn't available. I bet she wouldn't be available only after someone paid and she skips out with their money. Scam artists have no consciences. She was flat out busted.
  • BochimanBochiman Posts: 25,790 ✭✭✭✭✭


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    << <i>Since this person is clearly not a coin dealer it is possible that she was the person who was scammed when she bought whatever the heck that is she is selling. >>



    Not hardly. The auction stated that she would not be available from 2/22 to 2/24 because she would be at the hospital. Well isn't it amazing she responded to my accusation within 15 minutes on a day she wasn't available. I bet she wouldn't be available only after someone paid and she skips out with their money. Scam artists have no consciences. She was flat out busted. >>



    She may be the scammer, she may not. If you are only going on the "not available from 2/22 to 2/24" bit and that she replied to you on 2/22, then that is pretty weak. IF her reply is truthful, she replied prior to heading out. Now, IF she replied to you late in the day or on 2/23, then it would be a tad different. I've been out before and said I wasn't going to be around on the day I was leaving (but, I was around prior to leaving that day).

    Did she say "unavailable from 12:01am on 2/22 until 11:59pm on 2/24"? If not, then you argument based solely on that really doesn't hold water.

    I've been told I tolerate fools poorly...that may explain things if I have a problem with you. Current ebay items - Nothing at the moment

  • PawPaulPawPaul Posts: 5,845 ✭
    the facts were crystal clear -

    the seller posted a pix of a fake holder with a pix of a harshly cleaned raw coin , and then posted another pix of a 1960 cameo proof -raw

    .....all the time saying the auction was for a PCGS MS-66 FBL 1960-D Franklin -

    It stunk so much of a scam the issue is moot
  • BochimanBochiman Posts: 25,790 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>the facts were crystal clear -

    the seller posted a pix of a fake holder with a pix of a harshly cleaned raw coin , and then posted another pix of a 1960 cameo proof -raw

    .....all the time saying the auction was for a PCGS MS-66 FBL 1960-D Franklin -

    It stunk so much of a scam the issue is moot >>




    And, that's fine.....I am just one to not like it when people get so hopped up that anything and everything means scam to them. Something substantial, sure. Something as inane as "they responded in the morning on a day that they said they wouldn't be available"? Nah.....that means nothing in turns of "scam"

    I've been told I tolerate fools poorly...that may explain things if I have a problem with you. Current ebay items - Nothing at the moment

  • sonoranmonsoonsonoranmonsoon Posts: 2,078 ✭✭


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    And, that's fine.....I am just one to not like it when people get so hopped up that anything and everything means scam to them. Something substantial, sure. Something as inane as "they responded in the morning on a day that they said they wouldn't be available"? Nah.....that means nothing in turns of "scam" >>



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  • frnklnlvrfrnklnlvr Posts: 2,750 ✭


    << <i>the facts were crystal clear -

    the seller posted a pix of a fake holder with a pix of a harshly cleaned raw coin , and then posted another pix of a 1960 cameo proof -raw

    .....all the time saying the auction was for a PCGS MS-66 FBL 1960-D Franklin -

    It stunk so much of a scam the issue is moot >>



    And a poor attempt at a scam. I mean anyone that collects high end Franklins would obviously know the holder is fake and you could see the coin was harshly cleaned even in the small pic.
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  • McDonisMcDonis Posts: 279
    Its always amazing to me how many folks on Ebay have folks in the Hospitalgoing to the hospital just back from the hospitalClose to deathDeadSick or some other situation that the person always throws out when something goes amiss.


    Yes I am sure a couple of them were honest but frankly every time I hear this now my mind automaticly thinks BS. Yet another sign this person is just a lousy scammer.
    Bottom Feeder collector, Happy collector of Moderns
  • krankykranky Posts: 8,709 ✭✭✭
    What has me pointing the finger directly at the seller, regardless of how much or how little she knows about coins, is showing pictures of two different coins. I can't think of any legit excuse for that.

    New collectors, please educate yourself before spending money on coins; there are people who believe that using numismatic knowledge to rip the naïve is what this hobby is all about.

  • mozeppamozeppa Posts: 4,431 ✭✭✭


    << <i>93.8 % FB rating on about 100 FBs. Rediculous!
    I don't do business with less that 99.8%.
    JT >>

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    its "ridiculous" and you'll miss out on plenty holding your bids at 99.8%....many people will neg ...just because they can without consequence.

    and i'm with bochiman on this one ...the world has enough "chicken littles" ...this forum too!
  • 1Mike11Mike1 Posts: 4,445 ✭✭✭✭✭


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    And, that's fine.....I am just one to not like it when people get so hopped up that anything and everything means scam to them. Something substantial, sure. Something as inane as "they responded in the morning on a day that they said they wouldn't be available"? Nah.....that means nothing in turns of "scam" >>



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    That's true. You can be out with a laptop, phone, ipaq etc and answer emails on the move. My opinion is she knew she was scamming and the gig was up regardless of health issues.
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