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1921 Toned Peace Dollar - PCGS MS-63

StuartStuart Posts: 9,762 ✭✭✭✭✭
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I am pleased to share this recently purchased 1921 Toned Peace Dollar with my fellow forum members. image

1921 Toned Peace Dollar - PCGS MS-63
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Stuart

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  • DoubleEagle59DoubleEagle59 Posts: 8,369 ✭✭✭✭✭
    very nice coin.

    I can't estimate the grade because I stink when it comes to grading Peace dollars.
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  • CB2597CB2597 Posts: 3,042
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  • tcmitssrtcmitssr Posts: 1,570 ✭✭✭
    Nice coin but Peace dollars aren't my field of expertise (classic commems) so I'll pass on attempting to give a fair grade. I'd be happy owning yours though if that's worth anything.
  • nicetoning42107nicetoning42107 Posts: 1,162
    I was thinking MS until I saw the light grey patches on the top points of the hair. My guess is that's not strike weakness. Nice subtle tone.
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  • ashelandasheland Posts: 23,497 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    nice!

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  • crazyhounddogcrazyhounddog Posts: 14,019 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Nice piece! My guess is 62?
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  • BlindedByEgoBlindedByEgo Posts: 10,754 ✭✭✭✭✭
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  • PutTogetherPutTogether Posts: 2,141 ✭✭✭
    Your fields and focal points of the devices are very clean. Very clean. Your color is beautiful. Peace Dollars are usually either dipped and bright white, or ugly - ESPECIALLY the 21. Your strike is average - I've seen a few (but not a ton by any means) better, and I've seen many many many more with worse.

    IF the pic is accurate, I will call this a 64 because I think the hit on the cheek and neck keep it down - but a very very high end 64. Tough to tell what holder it would fall in though, because that color is probably subduing the luster a fair amount, and the services LOVE luster on Peace Dollars. I am going to predict it is a in a 63 holder, but if you dipped it and made it all "pretty and shiny" (yuck) You'd get the 64 it really deserves.

    Now, if there is wear (which I just can't find in the picture, but it doesn't mean it isn't there)....then it is the one of the nicest damn 58s I've ever seen.

    I really don't see wear on the eagle's shoulder, or in Liberty's hair or cheek. MAYBE the smudge on the cheek, but that looks a lot more like a bag mark to me. My final say is that the coin is technically a 64 all day long, but MAY be in a 63 holder because it isn't shiny enough for PCGS. If it is in a holder lower than that - someone got robbed. UNLESS there is wear, but I don't see wear.

    The important part:

    Regardless of what the holder says, you bought yourself a BEAUTIFUL Peace Dollar that I would like to own someday if you ever tire of her.
  • lcoopielcoopie Posts: 8,873 ✭✭✭✭✭
    that looks like a well struck 64, nicely toned
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  • LongacreLongacre Posts: 16,717 ✭✭✭
    63, sticker. image
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  • DeepCoinDeepCoin Posts: 2,781 ✭✭✭
    Nice coin. The only major distraction is dead center on the obverse, an unfortunate place to have the few hits on the coin. But the coin is fairly clean other than that, I would guess 64, but without conviction as you really need to have a coin in hand to be accurate. Great buy!
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  • GoldbullyGoldbully Posts: 17,651 ✭✭✭✭✭
    MS65 all day!!!!!!!! Great Peace Dollar!!!! image
  • BroadstruckBroadstruck Posts: 30,497 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>MS65 all day!!!!!!!! Great Peace Dollar!!!! image >>



    Goldbully... have a second look at the central area of the obverse before you scream Gem all day. image
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  • BroadstruckBroadstruck Posts: 30,497 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Nice piece! My guess is 62? >>



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  • GoldbullyGoldbully Posts: 17,651 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>MS65 all day!!!!!!!! Great Peace Dollar!!!! image >>



    Goldbully... have a second look at the central area of the obverse before you scream Gem all day. image >>



    I sar dat, Broadstruck.....here's a MS64 example that I'm basing my opinion on.

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  • HyperionHyperion Posts: 7,440 ✭✭✭
    when the fields are that clean I always think strike vs. wear....
    you got robbed with a 63, but happily paid 63 money for a attractive example!
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  • BroadstruckBroadstruck Posts: 30,497 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>

    << <i>MS65 all day!!!!!!!! Great Peace Dollar!!!! image >>



    Goldbully... have a second look at the central area of the obverse before you scream Gem all day. image >>



    I sar dat, Broadstruck.....here's a MS64 example that I'm basing my opinion on.

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    You need to get another example! imageimage
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  • TonedCoinTraderTonedCoinTrader Posts: 2,765 ✭✭✭
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  • GoldbullyGoldbully Posts: 17,651 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Here ya go, Broadstruck.......

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  • GoldbullyGoldbully Posts: 17,651 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Stuart, we're chomping at the bit....what's the grade already????

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  • dbemikedbemike Posts: 1,018 ✭✭✭
    Nice coin Stuart

    The only Peace Dollar I own
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  • SeattleSlammerSeattleSlammer Posts: 10,045 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Great date and nice original color.
    I like it!
  • FrankcoinsFrankcoins Posts: 4,571 ✭✭✭
    Likely PCGS 62
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  • CoinJunkieCoinJunkie Posts: 8,772 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Can't be gem due to the scratches on the portrait. My gut says 63, shot 64 due to eye appeal.

    A very nice Peace (piece)... image
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  • LeeBoneLeeBone Posts: 4,531 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I like it image
  • coinkatcoinkat Posts: 23,615 ✭✭✭✭✭
    63

    Terrific coin Stuart

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  • dizzleccdizzlecc Posts: 1,114 ✭✭✭
    Nice two sided toner.
  • jt88jt88 Posts: 3,099 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I don't know how to grade peace dollar but I fund Stuart always buy nice coins so I would say MS64.
  • Halfhunter06Halfhunter06 Posts: 1,332 ✭✭✭
    both weakly struck
  • MercuryMercury Posts: 1,052 ✭✭✭✭
    a few more example to compare.
    ANACS MS64
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    NGC MS 65

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  • MercuryMercury Posts: 1,052 ✭✭✭✭
    So, what's the grade?
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  • StuartStuart Posts: 9,762 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Since I had not intended this as a "Guess the Grade" thread, does the grade really matter? image I just wanted to show my fellow forum members a pretty and rather unusually toned 1921 Peace Dollar.

    If you really HAVE to know the grade, simply right mouse click on the photo, select "properties", and you will see in the photo name that it is graded PCGS MS-63. image

    Stuart

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  • garsmithgarsmith Posts: 5,894 ✭✭
    I'd go high MS-64 to low MS-65 on that one


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  • richardshipprichardshipp Posts: 5,647 ✭✭✭
    Congrats on your '21.
  • anablepanablep Posts: 5,157 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I like Peace dollars, and I like yours too Stuart.

    Nice pickup...
    Always looking for attractive rim toned Morgan and Peace dollars in PCGS or (older) ANA/ANACS holders!

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  • PutTogetherPutTogether Posts: 2,141 ✭✭✭


    << <i>Since I had not intended this as a "Guess the Grade" thread, does the grade really matter? image I just wanted to show my fellow forum members a pretty and rather unusually toned 1921 Peace Dollar.
    q]

    I agree - doesn't matter. Beautiful coin.

    Also, does someone here own that ANACS 64 coin that goldbully posted a few posts above this one? The strike is god awful, but the coin itself is still quite beautiful!!!!!
  • veryfineveryfine Posts: 1,763 ✭✭✭
    Here's my PCGS MS-63 again. I've always wondered why it didn't get the 64 grade; probably a tad too many hits on the reverse.

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  • FilamCoinsFilamCoins Posts: 1,900 ✭✭✭

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  • DNADaveDNADave Posts: 7,289 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I think its a 63 with a slim shot at 58.

    I like it and this thread too.
  • bidaskbidask Posts: 14,017 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Here's one that kinda looks yours.
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  • StuartStuart Posts: 9,762 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Thanks to everyone for contributing to make this a very informative and interesting thread! image

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  • StuartStuart Posts: 9,762 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Just to liven up the thread a bit, here's another of my favorite 1921 Peace Dollars with an above average strike, great mint luster, and high eye appeal.

    1921 NGC MS-63 High Relief Peace Dollar
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    Stuart

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  • lcoopielcoopie Posts: 8,873 ✭✭✭✭✭
    stuart-
    could you comment on the strike of your lovely coin at the top of the thread?
    LCoopie = Les
  • MercuryMercury Posts: 1,052 ✭✭✭✭
    Just to keep it alive. Here is one I used to own.
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  • RWBRWB Posts: 8,082 ✭
  • rooksmithrooksmith Posts: 982 ✭✭✭✭
    Wow - some really nice 1921 peace dollars there. Seeing some of the different examples at the same or different grade tells you how subjective the grading process is.
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  • RWBRWB Posts: 8,082 ✭
    It’s not unusual to find 1921 Peace dollars in nice uncirculated condition. After all, in 1936 there were still 190,000 in Philadelphia mint vaults – nearly 20% of the mintage. The difficulty is finding well struck examples. Look for separation of the two hair curls next to Liberty’s cheek. Also, look for maximum feather detail where the right leg and wing meet just above “D.”

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