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If baseball & football had a Mount Rushmore...

edmundfitzgeraldedmundfitzgerald Posts: 4,306 ✭✭
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If baseball & football had a Mount Rushmore, who should be the four faces on each mountain.

Basketball & hockey fans can feel free to chime in on those sports as well.

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  • perkdogperkdog Posts: 30,661 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Baseball- Ted Williams, Willie Mays, Babe Ruth, Hank Aaron
    Football- Tom Brady, Jim Brown, Jerry Rice, Johnny Unitas

    Edit: What the heck....

    Basketball- Wilt Chamberlain, Larry Bird, Bill Russell, Michael Jordan
    Hocky- Wayne Gretzky, Mario Lemiuex?, Gordie Howe, Bobby Orr
  • jdip9jdip9 Posts: 1,894 ✭✭✭
    I like Perkdog's suggestions with a couple modifications:

    I think Cy Young would have to replace Teddy Ballgame or Wilile Mays.

    Walter Payton replaces Tom Brady. I feel like a defensive guy has to replace Jim Brown, but can't think of one right now.

    Patrick Roy should replace Lemieux.



  • edmundfitzgeraldedmundfitzgerald Posts: 4,306 ✭✭
    Wow perk. Our baseball and hockey are almost identical.

    Hockey- Orr, Howe, Gretzky, Lemieux

    Baseball - Ted Williams, Hank Aaron, Babe Ruth, Cy Young

  • stownstown Posts: 11,321 ✭✭✭
    Baseball: Berkman, Biggio, Bagwell, Oswalt (with honorable mention to Clemens)
    Basketball: Olajuwon, Drexler, Horry, Kenny Smith (with honorable mention to Cassel)
    Football: Campbell, Andre Johnson, Mario Williams, Moon (with honorable mention to Steve Slaton)
    Hockey: Uh, what is this sport you speak of?
    So basically my kid won't be able to go to college, but at least I'll have a set where the three most expensive cards are of a player I despise ~ CDsNuts
  • baseballfanbaseballfan Posts: 5,458 ✭✭✭
    Baseball- Ted Williams, Willie Mays, Babe Ruth, Jackie Robinson
    Football- Knute Rockne, Joe Montana, Jerry Rice, James Brown
    Basketball- Larry Bird, Wilt Chamberlain, Magic Johnson, Michael Jordan
    Hockey- Mario Lemuiex, Wayne Gretzky, Maurice Richard, Gordie Howe

    alt.
    baseball Aaron/Cobb
    football Johnny U./
    Basketball Russell/Maravich
    Hockey Orr/ one of these kids today maybe?
    Fred

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  • JackWESQJackWESQ Posts: 2,133 ✭✭✭


    << <i>(with honorable mention to Cassel) >>


    Though not specifically stated, I would assume edmundfitzgerald's original inquiry is limited to human beings.

    /s/ JackWESQ
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  • stownstown Posts: 11,321 ✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>(with honorable mention to Cassel) >>


    Though not specifically stated, I would assume edmundfitzgerald's original inquiry is limited to human beings.

    /s/ JackWESQ >>



    Hey now! To ET's credit, he did tap Madonna when she was just a tad past her prime.
    So basically my kid won't be able to go to college, but at least I'll have a set where the three most expensive cards are of a player I despise ~ CDsNuts
  • jdip9jdip9 Posts: 1,894 ✭✭✭
    <<<Hey now! To ET's credit, he did tap Madonna when she was just a tad past her prime. >>>

    For real??...never heard that one.
  • stownstown Posts: 11,321 ✭✭✭


    << <i><<<Hey now! To ET's credit, he did tap Madonna when she was just a tad past her prime. >>>

    For real??...never heard that one. >>



    During the '94 Finals... When HOU beat NYK.

    Good times.

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    edited to add: this was the first thing I saw in a quick google search

    Link



    << <i>Sam Cassell & Madonna
    Fresh from his Madison Square Garden exploits, the Rockets' egg-headed shootist got collected by the omnivorous Herself, who accompanied him to a Rangers' hockey game and the nightspot Rouge -- not wearing her John Starks Knicks' jersey. >>

    So basically my kid won't be able to go to college, but at least I'll have a set where the three most expensive cards are of a player I despise ~ CDsNuts
  • jdip9jdip9 Posts: 1,894 ✭✭✭
    what's the old saying?....to the victors go the spoils!!
  • Reese3333Reese3333 Posts: 2,407 ✭✭
    Where's the love for Jim Thorpe? He has to be included on the football Mount Rushmore!
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  • 0882208822 Posts: 57 ✭
    Baseball- Lefty Grove, Walter Johnson, Babe Ruth, Honus Wagner
    We can call it Mount Rush and use Roger Clemens, Mark McGuire, A-Roid, Barry Bonds
    American Pro Sports- Gretzky, Ruth, Jordan, Jim Brown
  • jdip9jdip9 Posts: 1,894 ✭✭✭
    <<<American Pro Sports- Gretzky, Ruth, Jordan, Jim Brown>>>

    Nobody can argue with the first three, the football "head" is certainly debatable......Unitas, Payton, Sayers, Brown, Thorpe, Rice (and probably a few more I'm missing) all deserve consideration.
  • AhmanfanAhmanfan Posts: 4,390 ✭✭✭✭
    Gretzky Jordan Ruth and Thorpe I think would make a cool Mt Rushmore of sport.
    John
    Collecting
    HOF SIGNED FOOTBALL RCS
  • killingdreamkillingdream Posts: 232
    Baseball -Babe Ruth , Ty Cobb , Willie Mays ,Honus Wagner
    Football - Jim Browne , Joe Greene , Bronco Nagurski ,Dick Butkus
    Hockey - Gordie Howe , Wayne Gretzky , Mario Lemieux , Bobby Orr
    Basketball - Bill Russell , Michael Jordan , Wilt Chamberlain , George Mikan
  • kadokakidkadokakid Posts: 426 ✭✭


    Willie Mays, Babe Ruth, Ty Cobb, Cy Young

    Bill Russell, Wilt Chamberlain, Larry Bird, Mike Jordan

    Jim Brown, Johnny U, Dick Butkus, Sammy Baugh

    Arnold Palmer, Tiger Woods, Bobby Jones, Byron Nelson

    Peace
    Trying to complete 1970 psa set.
    45% complete.
  • jay0791jay0791 Posts: 3,528 ✭✭✭✭
    BB: ruth, joe d, mantle, gerhig of course you would have to rename it "Yankee Hill"
    FB: j brown, unitas, graham, w payton
    BK: chamberlain, russel, jordan, big-O
    HK: Howe and the hansen brothers
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    1948-76 Topps FB Sets
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    1948-1993 NY Yankee Team Sets
  • 0882208822 Posts: 57 ✭
    Antichrist Rushmore
    OJ/Hal Chase/ Mike Tyson/Pete Rose
  • fandangofandango Posts: 2,622 ✭
    Ruth/Williams/Cobb/Pujols

    Nagurski/Brown/Unitas/Montana
  • frankhardyfrankhardy Posts: 8,098 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Baseball - Babe Ruth, Hank Aaron, Willie Mays, Ty Cobb

    Basketball - Michael Jordan, Wilt Chamberlain, Bill Russell, Larry Bird

    Football - Joe Montana, Barry Sanders, Jerry Rice, Jim Brown

    Hockey - Wayne Gretzky, Gordie Howe, Bobby Orr, Mario Lemieux

    Golf - Tiger Woods, Jack Nicholas, Arnold Palmer, Ben Hogan

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    Sports - Michael Jordan, Babe Ruth, Tiger Woods, Wayne Gretzky

    Shane

  • JackWESQJackWESQ Posts: 2,133 ✭✭✭
    I'm not saying that he should be on basketball's Mt. Rushmore, but it never ceases to amaze the lack of "love" that Kareem gets. In this thread, not one person has selected Kareem.

    There are a lot of ways to measure an athlete's greatness. But however you want to measure it, I think Kareem has got them all-nailed down, to wit:

    Naismith Memorial Basketball Hall of Fame (May 15, 1995)

    COLLEGE
    Player of the Year (1967, 1969)
    Three-time First Team All-American (1967-69)
    Three-time NCAA champion (1967, 1968, 1969)
    Most Outstanding Player in NCAA Tournament (1967, 1968, 1969)
    Naismith College Player of the Year (1969)
    National Collegiate Basketball Hall of Fame (2007)

    NBA
    Rookie of the Year (1970)
    Six-time NBA champion (1971, 1980, 1982, 1985, 1987, 1988)
    Most Valuable Player (1971, 1972, 1974, 1976, 1977, 1980)
    Sporting News NBA MVP (1971, 1972, 1974, 1976, 1977, 1980)
    Finals Most Valuable Player (1971, 1985)
    All-time leading scorer in NBA history

    So why the lack of love? And to be honest, I wouldn't select Kareem either. I'd easily take Jordan, Magic, Wilt and Russell. (And MY explanation? Nothing but a lame one that I just don't see him as a great/transcendent player.)

    /s/ JackWESQ
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  • 0882208822 Posts: 57 ✭
    Kareems problem was that he was a center. As a center, he is at very best 4th greatest all time behind Wilt, Russell, and Duncan, and arguably 8th greatest behind Akeem, Shaq, Malone, and Mikan.
  • jay0791jay0791 Posts: 3,528 ✭✭✭✭
    I do agree with jack..
    Kareem did it all...but I can't put him as far back a #8 all time. I believe in his entire college carear he lost only 2 games...and was part of the streak of 87 ? consecutive games won at ucla. A recond that will probably stand forever.
    I think he was undefeated in his senior year in High school and a national champion as well.

    Now he would have scored on anyone.....but I think Kareem wouldn't be able to stop chamberlain and would have 1/2 the points if he were up against russell. The two were clearly better. But Kareem is one of the top 10 players of all time.
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    1948-76 Topps FB Sets
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  • HoopsterHoopster Posts: 1,169
    Jay,

    I think you have it backwards. Russell wouldn't stop Kareem because he would actually have to play against a skilled player over 7 feet tall, unlike the midgets he played against routinely.

    I don't think Kareem would stop Chamberlain but in basketball you can't just stop the top offensive player(they will get their share), but he played fine against him, and Chamberlain certainly could not stop Kareem.

    I would be more comfortable having Kareem on my team knowing that he was skilled offensive player at over 7 feet who got tested and proved he could do it against other skilled seven footers...unlike Russell and Chamberlain whose exploits were done mostly against inferior sized and talented guys.

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