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Would this slab?

I bought this coin for my 7070. But, the more I look at it the more I think I would rather see it in a PCGS slab. Would this make XF and is the surface original?


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  • commoncents05commoncents05 Posts: 10,094 ✭✭✭
    My guess would be no.

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  • tombrtombr Posts: 863 ✭✭
    I don't think it would grade. Looks cleaned. JMHO

    It is a nice example for the 7070 though.
  • Thats why I asked. I dont want to waste $50 on a submission if it wont make it in. Paid $400 for it. I still think I got a good deal.
  • cheezhedcheezhed Posts: 5,945 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Cleaned, put it in your 7070.
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  • If you want "original," you would expect a more gray look to a circulated coin of that era.

    Ditto, what everyone else said.
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  • Cleaned. Save your money.
  • MikeInFLMikeInFL Posts: 10,188 ✭✭✭✭
    I am sorry to say that I don't think so, no. image
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    Thats the look of an original coin with original surfaces.

    Your dollar is super washed out.

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  • Walkerguy21DWalkerguy21D Posts: 11,586 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Definitely cleaned, but I wouldn't preclude that it wouldn't slab. I have seen MANY cleaned seated dollars in major TPG holders.
    That said, I would not submit this coin, since your real goal is completing your 7070 album anyway, and there is a good chance it BB's if it were submitted.
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  • robkoolrobkool Posts: 5,934 ✭✭✭✭✭
    XF 40 details (cleaned)... Genuine holder only with no grade.
  • tightbudgettightbudget Posts: 7,299 ✭✭✭
    Many Seated Dollars come impaired and many of these coins also happen make it into slabs. This coin on a good day might get "curved" into holder but otherwise, it'll come back in a genuine holder for being cleaned.
  • dohdoh Posts: 6,457 ✭✭✭
    Not original, probably would come back in a Genuine holder
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  • I have to go against the grain...I think it would image It looks dipped though
  • How can you tell this coin is cleaned? It has a toned patina, I dont see any particularly shiny high points.



  • I'm going to go out on a limb here, I think most that have called it "Cleaned" are meaning to say "Dipped"

    With a silver coin that is 166 years old, there is a very good chance that at some point in its life, its been dipped in silver cleaner........


  • Thanks. So in other words that type of cleaning would not show a disturbed surface, just the overall color of the coin. And from these pics, people think that this is probably not a natural color for the coin to be?

    How is this coin different that mine??

    1847 PCGS SEATED
  • Steve27Steve27 Posts: 13,275 ✭✭✭


    << <i>I'm going to go out on a limb here, I think most that have called it "Cleaned" are meaning to say "Dipped"

    With a silver coin that is 166 years old, there is a very good chance that at some point in its life, its been dipped in silver cleaner........ >>




    Nope, cleaned (as in lightly polished) not dipped.
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  • lkeneficlkenefic Posts: 8,240 ✭✭✭✭✭
    The 1842 in the pics above looks to be a cleaned/dipped VF30. The pics you reference for the 1847 show more detail in Liberty's head and significantly more detail on the reverse (sheild details and eagle feathers in the neck). The surfaces appear to have more "skin" or natural looking patina as well. While I can't rule out the possibility that it was dipped long ago, it has since retoned to a much more natural look. I'd put the 1842 into an album and forget about it. It's perfect for a 7070 type set.

    Here's mine for comparison. I grade it VF30 and have been told it has original surfaces. That being said, I still can't rule out an old light cleaning:

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  • OK, again though how is the coin that I linked above in a PCGS slab any different than mine?
  • Obviously I realize that one has more detail than mine does. I am referring to the color. IMO, the surface of my coin has the exact same color as the one in that slab. Your coin in the picture I think has a foreign substance on it. Grease, dirt something. I bet if you put MS70 on it a bunch of gunk would come off.
  • 291fifth291fifth Posts: 24,518 ✭✭✭✭✭
    VF details, Cleaned. It would end up in a "genuine" holder.
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