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  • MichiganMichigan Posts: 4,942 ✭
    Baseball would just love to put this ugly subject behind it but stuff just keeps coming out. What a great way to start spring training. Oh well.....
  • perkdogperkdog Posts: 30,661 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Someday people will understand that prolly 75% of ALL Proffesional athletes in ALL sports have dabbled in performance enhancing drugs at one time or another.

    Keep on persucuting Bonds, McGwire ect.. though!

    Take a look at the Super Bowl for instance- there is NO way that a 275llb linebacker would make that interception and return it for a TD like that unless he was on something- I know its off topic but all these guys are doing it.
  • edmundfitzgeraldedmundfitzgerald Posts: 4,306 ✭✭
    Take Bonds and Arod off the home run records Bud Selig. Throw in McGwire, Sosa, & Palmeiro too.

    Sincerely,
    Hank Aaron
    Babe Ruth
  • ElemenopeoElemenopeo Posts: 2,577 ✭✭


    << <i>Sincerely,
    Hank Aaron
    Babe Ruth >>


    ...and Roger Maris

  • jdip9jdip9 Posts: 1,894 ✭✭✭
    I love the fact that one of the biggest reasons that the Yankees paid him so much in this last contract was the money he was going to generate chasing Aaron's, er, Bonds' record. Yankees fans already hate the guy, and now there is even more reason for them to turn on him.
  • MichiganMichigan Posts: 4,942 ✭
    Yep, A-Rod was supposed to be the untarnished one that would chase the home run record and now that is all out the window.

    The Steinbrenner family can't be happy right now, their marketing dreams have gone down the drain.
  • bighurt2000bighurt2000 Posts: 1,022 ✭✭✭
    Now that players like Arod, Bonds, Giambi, Clemens, etc. have been found cheating does this mean that players
    like Ken Griffey Jr., Frank Thomas, Mike Mussina, Randy Johnson will now get more respect for playing the game
    the right way?

    James
    http://stores.ebay.com/bighurt2000

  • HoopsterHoopster Posts: 1,169
    I have said all along that Arod was being given a free clean pass by everyone.

    The other guy getting a clean free pass by everyone is Frank Thomas.

    Bighurt2000, I wouldn't bet your house that he was clean. In fact, since he was a college football palyers in the 80's(edit) at the height of steroid use in that sport, I have always suspected that he was a candidate of taking them BEFORE he even entered MLB.

    Don't discount the skinny guys either. Arod's steroids were made for building lean muscle with limited bulk.

    I don't think I would bet a dime on ANY MLB player from the last dozen years of not taking anything.

  • MCMLVToppsMCMLVTopps Posts: 4,841 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I suspect Mr. A-Fraud will not be looking forward to visiting Fenway this season.

    Anyone care to guess what the chant will be? I'll go with "A-Fruad, A-Fraud-A-Fraud". Then again "cheater", "BALCO", and "steroids" could get a fair shot, all depends on who starts the chant I guess, but you can bet your baseball collection that a chant there will be for the Yankees 3rd baseman.

    Thank you Mr Selig and Mr. Fher for not having the nads to clean up baseball long ago. How sweet it would be if nobody showed up for a week at any MLB ballpark.

  • yankeeno7yankeeno7 Posts: 9,248 ✭✭✭
    I wonder if they Yanks will look into voiding his contract? The fiasco was bad enough with Giambi. Do they want to go through this again? I would hate to see another Bonds situation when records are about to be broken with fans in other cities hating him. Only difference with the Bonds situation is that NY would also hate him, unlike San Fran with Bonds. I think San Fran was the only place Bonds was cheered for.

    I'll wait to see what this is all about before making my judgement call. But if he is taking performance enhancing drugs, I say kick him out of baseball before he breaks records!
  • thegemmintmanthegemmintman Posts: 3,101 ✭✭
    I honestly thought that Roid-Rod was clean image
  • LakersFANLakersFAN Posts: 288 ✭✭
    what a damn shame, for any athlete to do this and get away with it...........i say take away all his accomplishments, take em all away........same with sugar shane mosely and other athletes who have abused the law of thier sport.......there is no excuse for what is ILLEGAL
  • MantleMarisFordBerraMantleMarisFordBerra Posts: 1,701 ✭✭✭
    What a piece of...
  • MantleMarisFordBerraMantleMarisFordBerra Posts: 1,701 ✭✭✭
    What a piece of...
  • DaBeefDaBeef Posts: 2,478
    Wow! Selig needs to step down...
    Am I speaking Chinese?



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  • perkdogperkdog Posts: 30,661 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>what a damn shame, for any athlete to do this and get away with it...........i say take away all his accomplishments, take em all away........same with sugar shane mosely and other athletes who have abused the law of thier sport.......there is no excuse for what is ILLEGAL >>




    Great idea! Lets just pretend that 1990 to 2008 never happened and start over editing all the proffesional stats from 1989!
  • MichiganMichigan Posts: 4,942 ✭
    They should set up a seperate section in the basebell hall of fame and label it "The steroid era" and explain the level of suspicion for
    that time period and that the records may be tarnished.
  • GootGoot Posts: 3,496


    << <i>Wow! Selig needs to step down... >>




    Why is it Selig's fault that these guys can't play the game clean? It's not like he's in on it.
  • IrishMikeIrishMike Posts: 7,737 ✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>Wow! Selig needs to step down... >>




    Why is it Selig's fault that these guys can't play the game clean? It's not like he's in on it. >>



    Man are you naive MLB and the commish have had a blind eye on this problem for years. You don't think for one minute that they didn't know this was going on and looked the other way? If you think that then you must really think the powers to be are very stupid. image
  • edmundfitzgeraldedmundfitzgerald Posts: 4,306 ✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>Wow! Selig needs to step down... >>




    Why is it Selig's fault that these guys can't play the game clean? It's not like he's in on it. >>




    Good question. Selig's job is to police the game. The 1st commissioner, Judge Kinnasaw Landis was hired because of
    the Black Sox gambling scandal. Landis said he'd only be hired if he had full authority over all the owners, because he knew
    the owners are prone to corruption.

    The commissioners sole job is to protect the integrity of baseball. Now back when Landis was the commish, there was no players
    union to fight. So Selig could say the players union got in the way. But if the players union got in the way, then the FBI would
    probably have just cause to go after men who were taking illegal drugs in the first place.

    So Selig needs to step down because it's his job to keep the game clean. That has been every commissioners job numero uno.
  • storm888storm888 Posts: 11,701 ✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>Wow! Selig needs to step down... >>




    Why is it Selig's fault that these guys can't play the game clean?... >>




    /////////////////////////////////


    Because he had the power to STOP the nonsense, and did NOTHING.

    He should have resigned long ago.


    Folks Who Bite Get Bitten. Folks Who Don't Bite Get Eaten.
  • yankeeno7yankeeno7 Posts: 9,248 ✭✭✭
    Selig may be the police but the Players Union is the SHERRIF. After the players themselves, it starts there. I would be interested in knowing when contract time was due, if Selig pushed for tougher substance abuse policy and the Union knocked it down? Wouldnt surprise me. Cuz if that is the case, Selig is handcuffed and that is why the US government had to step in.
  • grote15grote15 Posts: 29,696 ✭✭✭✭✭
    The MLBPA absolutely controls the game of baseball...Selig is little more than a figurehead..


    Collecting 1970s Topps baseball wax, rack and cello packs, as well as PCGS graded Half Cents, Large Cents, Two Cent pieces and Three Cent Silver pieces.
  • alpemomoalpemomo Posts: 355 ✭
    So Selig needs to step down because it's his job to keep the game clean. That has been every commissioners job numero uno.



    Actually Selig is an ex-owner therefor his Numero Uno job is to make money for the owners - he has done that better than anyone
    "An eye for an eye leaves the whole world blind". - Gandhi
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