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AU50? AU55? AU58? MS61? MS63? MS70?

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    RickeRicke Posts: 677 ✭
    No. Yes. Maybe. No. No No.
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    ASUtoddASUtodd Posts: 1,312 ✭✭
    Just at quick glance, I don't see any signs of wear... then again I haven't REALLY looked hard... BEAUTIFUL coin....
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    theboz11theboz11 Posts: 6,576 ✭✭✭
    The Grading services could not agree, how are we supposed tooimage

    Nice coin, probably a 67
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    IloiloKanoIloiloKano Posts: 1,051
    I can understand why you would ask the question, as I don't see a trace of wear, no do I see even a slight blemish, but where is the detail in the hair? I'd have to view another one like it to determine whether there was any more detail to be seen.

    I really like the look of that coin no matter what grade it is.
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    laurentyvanlaurentyvan Posts: 4,243 ✭✭✭
    Beautiful coin, was it imaged with camera or scanner?
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    JoesMaNameJoesMaName Posts: 1,061 ✭✭✭
    63-67 depending on the day
    looks to be a sweet coin
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    ajaanajaan Posts: 17,124 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Laurent, images with camera.

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    coinkatcoinkat Posts: 22,795 ✭✭✭✭✭
    submit the coinimage

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    IstilllikeZARcoinsIstilllikeZARcoins Posts: 812 ✭
    AU57









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    mnemtsas2mnemtsas2 Posts: 745 ✭✭✭
    Flat in the hair which could be either strike weakness or wear. I'd say strike weakness as the colour looks pretty good through there. I'd say a 63-65 coin.
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    ASUtoddASUtodd Posts: 1,312 ✭✭
    From looking at the hundreds of large cents that I have... I would have to say that the crown jewels will wear before the hair... With that being said, I'll say it's strike weakness HOWEVER, I don't think it is as weak as some are pointing out...
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    coinpicturescoinpictures Posts: 5,345 ✭✭✭
    I see no signs of wear, but I don't like it either. The surfaces seem dead with absolutely no lustre whatsoever. Maybe it looks different in hand, but it just looks "off" to me.
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    zeebobzeebob Posts: 2,825 ✭


    << <i>I see no signs of wear, but I don't like it either. The surfaces seem dead with absolutely no lustre whatsoever. Maybe it looks different in hand, but it just looks "off" to me. >>



    The lack of lustre bothers me too. I was going to say AU and cleaned. But after reading more of the posts, I would guess maybe MS-65, weak-strike (thus the lack of detail in the hair that made me think AU or even XF), but I'm thinking dipped because the luster seems missing (could be the photo too).

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    ajaanajaan Posts: 17,124 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Here are the seller's images:

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    The true look of the coin is somewhere between mine and his images.

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    1960NYGiants1960NYGiants Posts: 3,455 ✭✭✭✭
    63red-brown
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    coinpicturescoinpictures Posts: 5,345 ✭✭✭
    Second set of pictures is much better, in my opinion (sorry Don). The surfaces look much more natural and what I would expect from an UNC piece. Depending on whether the slight flattening in the hair is wear or not, I say either AU58 or 63BN.
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    ormandhormandh Posts: 3,111 ✭✭✭
    Not the same coin, whatsoever. Look at the rims at the top. Your image shows no hits at all; his image shows some hits. His pics has more details than yours. Put a side by side view of the obverses and I would be willing to bet that you will see a difference in detail. Yours is a soft strike compared to his.
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    coinkatcoinkat Posts: 22,795 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I just watched Witness For the Prosecution...



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    coinpicturescoinpictures Posts: 5,345 ✭✭✭


    << <i>Not the same coin, whatsoever. Look at the rims at the top. Your image shows no hits at all; his image shows some hits. His pics has more details than yours. Put a side by side view of the obverses and I would be willing to bet that you will see a difference in detail. Yours is a soft strike compared to his. >>



    Ergf. I didn't even compare them side by side. You're right.
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    BSBS Posts: 1,318 ✭✭✭


    << <i>Not the same coin, whatsoever. Look at the rims at the top. Your image shows no hits at all; his image shows some hits. His pics has more details than yours. Put a side by side view of the obverses and I would be willing to bet that you will see a difference in detail. Yours is a soft strike compared to his. >>

    It's the same coin, if you look real hard you can see the marks under ONE in Ajaan's photo. There are also
    a few spots that match up.
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    ormandhormandh Posts: 3,111 ✭✭✭
    I can see where you are coming from. But, I would have to see a different angle to fully agree.
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    mrpotatoheaddmrpotatoheadd Posts: 7,576 ✭✭


    << <i>Not the same coin, whatsoever. >>

    I wonder... look at the shading in the circled areas in the two photos:

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    coinkatcoinkat Posts: 22,795 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Look at what appears to be a very kight hairline in the sellers picture bbetween ONE CENT. It does not appear on Ajaan's image- I guess it could be the angle, lighting or ?

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    ajaanajaan Posts: 17,124 ✭✭✭✭✭
    They are most definately the same coin.

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    ormandhormandh Posts: 3,111 ✭✭✭
    Are you using a flash to image this?
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    ajaanajaan Posts: 17,124 ✭✭✭✭✭
    The only light I used to image the coin was sunlight. I admit, I imaged it quickly and it isn't the greatest image.

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    ormandhormandh Posts: 3,111 ✭✭✭
    That is why the image looks washed out and lots of the details were distorted.
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    spinaker2000spinaker2000 Posts: 4,329 ✭
    Hey Don, try some more pics!! image
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    ProofCentsProofCents Posts: 1,656
    AU58 to MS61 due mostly to strike
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