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What is the lowest cost to entry in the Condition Census?

RYKRYK Posts: 35,801 ✭✭✭✭✭
The Condition Census can be loosely defined as the best 5-12 examples of an issue in a well-studied and popular series, as determined by experts and/or interested collectors. (Feel free to tweak my definition, if you will.)

For Dahlonega gold, it is hard to get into the Condition Census without buying a coin for under $6000-8000. My guess is that the Condition Census Saints (if there is such a thing) would probably start around $15,000. I have a condition census 1837 large cent (I believe it is #10) that cost me around $1000.

How low can you go and have a top ten coin (for the issue)?

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    Aegis3Aegis3 Posts: 2,939 ✭✭✭
    Probably St Patrick/Newby farthings by die variety.
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    MrHalfDimeMrHalfDime Posts: 3,440 ✭✭✭✭
    I have no idea what the record might be for the lowest cost to enter the condition census, but for the Capped Bust half dimes I was able to purchase a condition census coin for not too much money. In 1992 I bought a low grade 1830 example which I could not attribute because it had a large cud on the obverse at stars 5-6 which I had never seen before. After bringing the coin home and studying it further, I was still unable to attribute it. I then read my latest copy of the John Reich Journal (quarterly publication of the JRCS), and learned of a new discovery by Dr. Eric Gutscher of the 1830 LM-5/V13. My coin was the second, confirming piece. Only a G-6 example, but for $12 I was sitting pretty in the condition census. I later sold the coin to another specialist, and have upgraded it with a VF-25 example with the cud and an AU-55 example without the cud. I doubt that the G-6 piece would make the condition census (top 6 known examples) today, but I will also bet that it has a place of honor in someone's CBHD collection.
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    LakesammmanLakesammman Posts: 17,678 ✭✭✭✭✭
    It's alot easier to get into the CC with patterns.

    I like the EAC method - ignore the slabs and evaluate the merits of the coin. With other series, the CC is always uncertain.
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    MidLifeCrisisMidLifeCrisis Posts: 10,614 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Probably St Patrick/Newby farthings by die variety. >>


    Really? Please explain why you think this. image
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    coindeucecoindeuce Posts: 13,515 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I have an 1840 N.2 Large Cent that when reviewed by the proper experts, or when(shudder!) is wrapped in plastic will likely be #2 or #3 in the Condition Census, and it was aquired as a common date for a very affordable sum.

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    shorecollshorecoll Posts: 5,447 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I have a unique CWT that I bought for $80. That's in the CC but it's not a coin.
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    << <i>Probably St Patrick/Newby farthings by die variety. >>



    Good answer - I didn't think of that.

    Since there are so many die varieties of St. Pats, almost every one of these you find is an R-6 or better and by definition near the top of a what is typically defined as a cc. That might be a slight exaggeration, but not by much.

    JA
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    MidLifeCrisisMidLifeCrisis Posts: 10,614 ✭✭✭✭✭


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    << <i>Probably St Patrick/Newby farthings by die variety. >>



    Good answer - I didn't think of that.

    Since there are so many die varieties of St. Pats, almost every one of these you find is an R-6 or better and by definition near the top of a what is typically defined as a cc. That might be a slight exaggeration, but not by much.

    JA >>


    Good point about the rarity of the die varieties. I just prefer a more general definition of condition census, as in the best examples of a particular coin type including all minor varieties.
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    BarndogBarndog Posts: 20,525 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>I have no idea what the record might be for the lowest cost to enter the condition census, but for the Capped Bust half dimes I was able to purchase a condition census coin for not too much money. In 1992 I bought a low grade 1830 example which I could not attribute because it had a large cud on the obverse at stars 5-6 which I had never seen before. After bringing the coin home and studying it further, I was still unable to attribute it. I then read my latest copy of the John Reich Journal (quarterly publication of the JRCS), and learned of a new discovery by Dr. Eric Gutscher of the 1830 LM-5/V13. My coin was the second, confirming piece. Only a G-6 example, but for $12 I was sitting pretty in the condition census. I later sold the coin to another specialist, and have upgraded it with a VF-25 example with the cud and an AU-55 example without the cud. I doubt that the G-6 piece would make the condition census (top 6 known examples) today, but I will also bet that it has a place of honor in someone's CBHD collection. >>



    your G-6 does have a place of honor in a NYC half dime collector's "coin cabinet"

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