my 86 ryan scans from recent poppage

OAKESY25 · January 30, 2009 5:00AM

I am gonna sent these back in on review... thought 1 would be a 10 at least..
backs are pretty much 45-55 at worst

BunchOBull · January 30, 2009 5:01AM

I'd resub #3 and the last 2.

mmsportscards · January 30, 2009 5:07AM

Cert ending in 580 is the one. Any fading on the reverse paperbreak? The others have the red-pink bleeding in the jerseys.

Nice batch of nolans!!!!!!!!!!!

CubsFan41 · January 30, 2009 5:10AM

I'd like to see a 10 side by side with a couple of those.

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larryallen73 · January 30, 2009 5:11AM

Crack them all and re-submit under the old "if you send 10 PSA 9 Ryans odds are one will be graded a 10..." theory.

OAKESY25 · January 30, 2009 5:14AM

what stinks.. is the 580 card.. is the only card.. without back centering.. here is a scan
the dot by the l is not on the card.. must have been on the scanner

larryallen73 · January 30, 2009 5:16AM

This thread is a great reminder why buying those "cheap" '86 boxes is a waste of money. It's very very difficult to get the Ryan in a 10.

mmsportscards · January 30, 2009 5:17AM

thanks oaks

Yeah Id love to see it 5050 but should still measure Id bring it onsite or review onsite.

Most of these blow the 2 10 examples Ive seen away. If the 580 ever hits ebay lmk it wont get the 999 bid from me.

Gator

Boopotts · January 30, 2009 5:21AM

<< Cert ending in 580 is the one. Any fading on the reverse paperbreak? The others have the red-pink bleeding in the jerseys.

Nice batch of nolans!!!!!!!!!!! >>

Agreed. The rest have either corner touches or chipping on the black section on the sides of the card.

StanTheManMusial · January 30, 2009 5:22AM

<< This thread is a great reminder why buying those "cheap" '86 boxes is a waste of money. It's very very difficult to get the Ryan in a 10. >>

Good point. ^^

Oaksey25,

They look accurately graded to me.

nam812 · January 30, 2009 5:22AM

You also have to check for slightly jagged edging on the bottom white border. The 86's are very prone to that, and even if it isnt a lot, it will stop a card from being a 10.

VitoCo1972 · January 30, 2009 5:24AM

Don't resub #3 - will never get a 10 with that fisheye.

slantycouch · January 30, 2009 5:25AM

Those grades seem accurate to me. 580's probably the best chance, but with the o/c back I doubt you'll get a 10 back from it.

Nice cards though!

billwaltonsbeard · January 30, 2009 5:29AM

How much do high end raw 86 Topps Ryans sell for?

More than a PSA 9? or is a PSA 9 still profitable?

mmsportscards · January 30, 2009 5:34AM

psa 9 ryan 8-12 bucks sometimes 20

OAKESY25 · January 30, 2009 5:38AM

I am not saying they are graded wrong.. it was just meant to look at and talk about..
don't get me wrong.. figured maybe on the special though.. it would be worth the $50 to see if I can bump one..

mmsportscards · January 30, 2009 5:43AM

Nah 10 the first one and 580 are your only chances imo save the 40

Boopotts · January 30, 2009 5:58AM

The centering on the back of 580 is fine; I'd probably keep submitting that one over and over.

If you want $20 for it let me know.

jeffcbay · January 30, 2009 5:59AM

I think I remember seeing this in the shared orders section. Didn't one come back Evid of Trim? Can you scan that one?

mmsportscards · January 30, 2009 6:01AM

Jeff- Good point lol that was the one! Along with anyone turned 8. Seen that before but we wont go there.

HighChopper · January 30, 2009 6:06AM

Cert ending in 580 is the one.

Keep resubbing.

bman90278 · January 30, 2009 6:14AM

Dang, I would think you should have had one 10 in that lot. I guess that's why I have never subbed any 86's. My 9's would be 8's and my 8's would be 7's...It would kill me. lol

jeffcbay · January 30, 2009 6:48AM

At least you get vouchers for the Minimum Size Requirement:

Line # Item # Cert # Grade Description Type Country
1 1 14102758 GEM MINT 10 1994 SP HOLOVIEW BLUE 29 MIKE PIAZZA Card US
2 1 14102759 MINT 9 1994 SP HOLOVIEW BLUE 32 CAL RIPKEN JR. Card US
2 2 14102760 MINT 9 1994 SP HOLOVIEW BLUE 32 CAL RIPKEN JR. Card US
3 1 14102761 NEAR MINT-MINT+ 8.5 1994 SP HOLOVIEW BLUE 25 DON MATTINGLY Card US
4 1 14102762 GEM MINT 10 1994 SP HOLOVIEW BLUE 12 KEN GRIFFEY JR. Card US
4 2 14102763 N6: MINIMUM SIZE REQUIREMENT 1994 SP HOLOVIEW BLUE 12 KEN GRIFFEY JR. Card US
5 1 14102764 MINT 9 1994 SP HOLOVIEW BLUE 16 MICHAEL JORDAN Card US
6 1 14102765 N6: MINIMUM SIZE REQUIREMENT 1994 SP HOLOVIEW RED 38 ANDY VAN SLYKE Card US
7 1 14102766 GEM MINT 10 1994 SP HOLOVIEW RED 15 BO JACKSON Card US
8 1 14102767 N6: MINIMUM SIZE REQUIREMENT 1994 SP HOLOVIEW RED 1 ROBERTO ALOMAR Card US
9 1 14102768 MINT 9 1994 SP HOLOVIEW RED 29 MIKE PIAZZA Card US
10 1 14102769 N1: EVIDENCE OF TRIMMING 1986 TOPPS 374 STEVE YOUNG Card US
11 1 14102770 MINT 9 1986 TOPPS 290 CARLTON FISK Card US
12 1 14102771 MINT 9 1986 TOPPS 100 NOLAN RYAN Card US
12 2 14102772 MINT 9 1986 TOPPS 100 NOLAN RYAN Card US
12 3 14102773 MINT 9 1986 TOPPS 100 NOLAN RYAN Card US
12 4 14102774 MINT 9 1986 TOPPS 100 NOLAN RYAN Card US
12 5 14102775 MINT 9 1986 TOPPS 100 NOLAN RYAN Card US
12 6 14102776 MINT 9 1986 TOPPS 100 NOLAN RYAN Card US
12 7 14102777 MINT 9 1986 TOPPS 100 NOLAN RYAN Card US
12 8 14102778 N1: EVIDENCE OF TRIMMING 1986 TOPPS 100 NOLAN RYAN Card US
13 1 14102779 N6: MINIMUM SIZE REQUIREMENT 1992 STADIUM CLUB 683 BRETT FAVRE Card US
14 1 14102780 MINT 9 1971 DELL TODAY'S TEAM STAMPS ROBERTO CLEMENTE Card US
15 1 14102781 GEM MINT 10 1992 PRO LINE PORTRAITS TEAM NFL 1 MUHAMMAD ALI TEAM NFL Card US
16 1 14102782 GEM MINT 10 1992 PRO LINE PORTRAITS 316 EMMITT SMITH Card US
16 2 14102783 GEM MINT 10 1992 PRO LINE PORTRAITS 316 EMMITT SMITH Card US
17 1 14102784 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1981 NASHVILLE SOUNDS TEAM ISSUE DON MATTINGLY Card US
18 1 14102785 MINT 9 1981 NASHVILLE SOUNDS TEAM ISSUE WILLIE McGEE Card US
19 1 14102786 MINT 9 1981 ALL-STAR GAME PROGRAM INSERT-HAND CUT NOLAN RYAN Card US
20 1 14102787 GEM MINT 10 1981 ALL-STAR GAME PROGRAM INSERT-HAND CUT CARL YASTRZEMSKI Card US
21 1 14102788 N1: EVIDENCE OF TRIMMING 1984 TOPPS 228 WALTER PAYTON Card US
22 1 14102789 NEAR MINT 7 1973 TOPPS 50 ROBERTO CLEMENTE Card US
22 2 14102790 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1973 TOPPS 50 ROBERTO CLEMENTE Card US
23 1 14102791 N6: MINIMUM SIZE REQUIREMENT 1992 STADIUM CLUB 653 ROBERT BROOKS Card US
24 1 14102792 N6: MINIMUM SIZE REQUIREMENT 1992 STADIUM CLUB 660 DAN MARINO Card US
25 1 14102793 MINT 9 1992 STADIUM CLUB 645 JERRY RICE Card US
26 1 14102794 MINT 9 1992 STADIUM CLUB 608 JERRY RICE Card US
27 1 14102795 NEAR MINT-MINT+ 8.5 1984 TOPPS 8 DON MATTINGLY Card US
28 1 14102796 EXCELLENT-MINT 6 1969 TOPPS 26 BRYON PICCOLO Card US
29 1 14102797 MINT 9 OC 1969 TOPPS STAMPS MICKEY MANTLE Card US

ldferg · January 30, 2009 7:30AM

are you sure about the vouchers for min size requirements?

rbdjr1 · January 30, 2009 7:46AM

<< This thread is a great reminder why buying those "cheap" '86 boxes is a waste of money. It's very very difficult to get the Ryan in a 10. >>

Don't waste your money! You want to find a gem Ryan? You must buy some "expensive" '86 boxes!

rd

P.S. Didn't Topps issue some early presentation sets in 1986 (...for Topps employees, or key people, etc.)? Maybe 10's are easier to come by from those special sets, if they do/did exist?

This one, was under $10

mickeymantle24 · January 30, 2009 8:04AM

Nice Ryan. Is it impossible to get a 10 on that card or something?

Indy78 · January 30, 2009 11:01AM

I'm not at all familiar with this issue, but with regard to the 580-cert ryan, will that reddish print mark to the right of ryan's shirt collar keep the card from getting a 10 notwithstanding the back centering? The other thing I notice about the 580-cert card is that the orange coloration in "Astros" seems a little on the lighter side. I collect 1975 topps baseball, and I've noticed that if the colors aren't really bright and bold, it's pretty hard to get anything above an 8 no matter how sharp the corners and edges are and how good the centering is. Is this the case with the 86's?

Regardless, those cards all have very nice eye appeal, and the color on the very first one really stands out! Good luck whatever you decide do with them!

SidePocket · January 30, 2009 12:36PM

Why do I have this feeling that after this rip a PSA 9 Ryan will be hard to sell due to oversupply?

OAKESY25 · January 30, 2009 12:36PM

these are the 3 "trimmed" cards from that lot..
all ebay buys..
I didn't thing they looked trimmed.. the payton came back trimmed 3 times..
I just don't see it

ldferg · January 30, 2009 1:46PM

here some ryans from a few past subs:

14163630 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1986 TOPPS 100 NOLAN RYAN
14163631 MINT 9 1986 TOPPS 100 NOLAN RYAN
14163632 MINT 9 1986 TOPPS 100 NOLAN RYAN
14196989 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1986 TOPPS 100 NOLAN RYAN
14196990 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1986 TOPPS 100 NOLAN RYAN
14196991 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1986 TOPPS 100 NOLAN RYAN
14196992 NEAR MINT-MINT+ 8.5 1986 TOPPS 100 NOLAN RYAN
14196993 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1986 TOPPS 100 NOLAN RYAN
14196994 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1986 TOPPS 100 NOLAN RYAN
14196995 NEAR MINT-MINT+ 8.5 1986 TOPPS 100 NOLAN RYAN
14196996 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1986 TOPPS 100 NOLAN RYAN
14196997 MINT 9 1986 TOPPS 100 NOLAN RYAN
14196998 MINT 9 1986 TOPPS 100 NOLAN RYAN
14196999 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1986 TOPPS 100 NOLAN RYAN
15581089 MINT 9 1986 TOPPS 100 NOLAN RYAN
15581090 MINT 9 1986 TOPPS 100 NOLAN RYAN
15581091 MINT 9 1986 TOPPS 100 NOLAN RYAN
15581092 MINT 9 1986 TOPPS 100 NOLAN RYAN
15581093 MINT 9 1986 TOPPS 100 NOLAN RYAN
15581094 MINT 9 1986 TOPPS 100 NOLAN RYAN

DrJ · February 6, 2009 2:12PM

<< these are the 3 "trimmed" cards from that lot..
all ebay buys..
I didn't thing they looked trimmed.. the payton came back trimmed 3 times..
I just don't see it

>>

Surprise surprise. Oakesy does not see a trimmed card.

OAKESY25 · February 6, 2009 2:23PM

who is the stalker again?? is it the guy trying to help other board members
or is it the rude guy pulling up old threads for no reason??
making ignorant comments

DrJ · February 6, 2009 2:25PM

<< who is the stalker again?? is it the guy trying to help other board members
or is it the rude guy pulling up old threads for no reason??
making ignorant comments >>

Your history speaks for itself. Moving on, you seem to want to be the board cop and you can have that job!!!!

Boopotts · February 6, 2009 2:37PM

<< Why do I have this feeling that after this rip a PSA 9 Ryan will be hard to sell due to oversupply? >>

A guy might pull one PSA 9 Ryan out of an entire wax case. My guess is that the pop on that card is safe.

Edit to add: The board's newfound obsession with this card will, hopefully, end shortly. It's probably an $800 card now, with the pop being at six, and a guy would be lucky to pull one out of 75 rack cases. It's time to move on...

my 86 ryan scans from recent poppage

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