Help with 1940 Play Ball Deal

halfcentman

Hello everyone,

I am looking at an extensive collection of raw 1940 Play Balls. As some of you know, I am a full-time coin dealer who used to be in the card business from 1986-1993.

I pretty much have this collection nailed down as I have done a lot of research, but there are three #225 Joe Jacksons in the collection that I am having trouble evaluating. Each of them has mild to moderate border disturbance from being rubber-banded. As far as the sharpness of the cards are concerned, I graded them VG-EX, EX, and EX+.

Will PSA "net grade" the cards down to VG/VG-EX ranges because of this, or will they place a qualifier on there? I am assuming that I need to buy the cards at the VG level and take it from there. I have also that the sale prices for this card are a bit soft when compared to SMR Online.

Any thoughts would be greatly appreciated.

Greg

slantycouch

Hi Greg,

I think a lot of people here would be able to offer good advice, but scans would help a lot. Any chance you can get some?

That said, edgewear shouldn't result in a qualifier...

halfcentman

I do not have possession of the deal, so I cannot scan the cards.

For example, just assume a card that would grade a PSA 5.5 with respect to corners, etc., but it has a moderate 1/4 inch mark on the right border from being rubber-banded. It's enough to be seen with the naked eye, but it does not destroy the eye appeal of the card.

If I were using my coin knowledge for something like this, this would get "netted down" one grade to a VG-EX.

I might be able to get scans today (if the weather clears up). I will post them if I do.

Greg

123Slider

In general, I will say yes that the card will be dinged by the grader for the rubber band mark on a EX conditon card. In my experience, if the mark is as visible as you say, it is treated much like a surface wrinkle / slight crease and you probably are looking at a vg-ex (4) as your best grade.

PoppaJ

<< <i>In general, I will say yes that the card will be dinged by the grader for the rubber band mark on a EX conditon card. In my experience, if the mark is as visible as you say, it is treated much like a surface wrinkle / slight crease and you probably are looking at a vg-ex (4) as your best grade. >>



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PoppaJ

KbKards

1940's are subject to small breaks or tears in the paper on the left and right edges. A rubber band mark is different and won't affect a low to mid grade much. If several of the same card all have the same rubber band looking marks then it's more likely that the marks will be breaks in the paper put there when the card was made. A break in the paper is different and will result in a much lower grade. The card won't be net graded to a higher grade because of the small tear, but you will see the effect of net grading in what the card sells for.

smtjoy

Depending on how bad the rubberband marks are but they can be treated like a crease, sometimes a heavy crease if badly intented. I would say with an indention grades would be a PSA 1-3 max even if everything else on the card looks good. If there is no indention just a faded area I would expect a 3-5.