Deceptive Seller?

RonD

Stumbled across ebay user smoo7th while doing my searches today. He uses small scans and no scans of the backs. That in itself is not the problem. He uses the same description in each listing and you can clearly see the cards he "describes" as having 'great centering' do not in fact have great centering. Most have tilts!!!

Here is a link to his current auctions: myurl

Just one of my ebay pet peeves. Thanks!

MeteoriteGuy

Nice cards, pretty good scans, great feedback. I think you are over reacting.

MBMiller25

I disagree there is nothing deceptive about these auction, nor the scans. Dude has 900+ 100% positive feedback as well.

storm888

<< <i>Stumbled across ebay user smoo7th while doing my searches today. He uses small scans and no scans of the backs. That in itself is not the problem. He uses the same description in each listing and you can clearly see the cards he "describes" as having 'great centering' do not in fact have great centering. Most have tilts!!!

Here is a link to his current auctions: myurl

Just one of my ebay pet peeves. Thanks! >>




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NOT saying it is so, but that post makes me wonder if it
is made in retaliation against a poster here who is involved
in a minor controversy with an EBAY seller.

Just speculating, and if I am mistaken, I apologize.

MeteoriteGuy

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<< <i>Stumbled across ebay user smoo7th while doing my searches today. He uses small scans and no scans of the backs. That in itself is not the problem. He uses the same description in each listing and you can clearly see the cards he "describes" as having 'great centering' do not in fact have great centering. Most have tilts!!!

Here is a link to his current auctions: myurl

Just one of my ebay pet peeves. Thanks! >>




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NOT saying it is so, but that post makes me wonder if it
is made in retaliation against a poster here who is involved
in a minor controversy with an EBAY seller.

Just speculating, and if I am mistaken, I apologize. >>




Deceptive Seller? = Deceptive OP?.......???

WinPitcher

I don't see the problem and only one card has a tilt.

Steve

otwcards

It's a fair pet peeve, but I think that the scans are reasonable and the description is canned ("This is a great card, with perfect clarity, NM-MT corners, great centering, and the back is super clean"). Just because he's too lazy to write a new description shouldn't be a reason to label him as "deceptive." If there were no scans and just the text, then you would have a more valid point, but all things considered, I don't really see this as deceptive and I've seen far worse than this...

rbdjr1

<< <i>Stumbled across ebay user smoo7th while doing my searches today. He uses small scans and no scans of the backs. That in itself is not the problem. He uses the same description in each listing and you can clearly see the cards he "describes" as having 'great centering' do not in fact have great centering. Most have tilts!!! Here is a link to his current auctions: myurl Just one of my ebay pet peeves. Thanks! >>



I think this seller has demonstrated honesty on ebay (i.e., years of good feedback, etc.)... But I can understand the "boiler-plating" in descriptions (i.e., "great centering") can be frustrating for buyers. You. as a buyer have to "look thru" some of those descriptions as nothing but "boilerplate". I believe this seller is not doing this to deceive potential buyers, but "just cutting corners" and saving time.


I'm not saying this is proper, as "you caught it" and it DID bother you! Ask seller if he could send you a larger scan and also a scan of the reverse, of the item you are interested in. I have a feeling this guy would accommodate your request?


So good sellers can be lazy too!

rd

RonD

Thanks guys. I don't know the seller and appreciate the replies. After filtering out the Buy It Now auctions I am left with less to complain about.

rajah424

I don't think this is deception at all. A good example of deception would be doctoring scans to make the card look better than it really is. There is an excellant thread about this posted today. You should read it, very informative.

WinPitcher

I thought the seller of the card that this seller recently bought was deceptive.

Steve

storm888

<< <i>I thought the seller of the card that this seller recently bought was deceptive.

Steve >>



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I must agree.


Deceptive Scan ?


And, a review of completed listings by that seller indicates
he can really make a scanner sing.

PoppaJ

<< <i>It's a fair pet peeve, but I think that the scans are reasonable and the description is canned ("This is a great card, with perfect clarity, NM-MT corners, great centering, and the back is super clean"). Just because he's too lazy to write a new description shouldn't be a reason to label him as "deceptive." If there were no scans and just the text, then you would have a more valid point, but all things considered, I don't really see this as deceptive and I've seen far worse than this... >>



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Scott,

I think you nailed it!

Plus, if someone does describe the centering as "great" and you interpret it as "not great", just don't bid/buy!

PoppaJ

IJustLoveCards

Boy I am slow....

So let me get this straight, all this jumping from thread to thread..my head is spinning...

Smooth07 ( Ron bought a card that was clearly doctored via some type of scanner software....

then he came on the boards and complained....

Now we have a thread about a seller known as smooth07, (Ron who's scans are not large enough? and the OP of this thread was the one who sold Ron B the PSA 8 in question?

Is this correct?

Here's what gets me...

If and I say IF the OP of the thread about RON B's scans did in fact do this ( sell ron b the doctored scanned card in question) and is a board member here,

YOU NEED TO BE BANISHED FROM THESE BOARDS FOREVER!!!!

if not, then no worries.

again, I said IF!!!

storm888

"...and the OP of this thread was the one who sold Ron B the PSA 8 in question?

Is this correct?..."

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Thus far, nobody said that.

This thread - obviously meant to bash the buyer of the DECEPTIVELY scanned card -
could have been started by mere coincidence.

IchiroDeported

seems like a vengeful, spiteful post on someones part.
hmm.

otwcards

So, this is Pete (pspa123) getting back at Tom (RonBurgandy=smooth7th)?

This is why I don't bother too much with who the posters are here and what their eBay ID's are.

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storm888

"...So, this is Pete (pspa123) getting back at Tom (RonBurgandy=smooth7th)?..."

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Nobody said that.

Could be just a simple coincidence.

Bosox1976

Thinly veiled dreck. Don't feed the trolls.

otwcards

<< <i>"...So, this is Pete (pspa123) getting back at Tom (RonBurgandy=smooth7th)?..."

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Nobody said that.

Could be just a simple coincidence. >>



OK. Well, if it is, then it is. If it's not, then it's not. Unless it isn't in which case it is... Coincidently...

otwcards

By the way, based upon RonD's profile, he's on the other side of the country from Pete (pspa123) -- CA vs. MA. So, it is probable that RonD is not the same person as pspa123.

RonD

I am not Pete and I am sorry if I interrupted a perfectly good internet brawl.

rbdjr1

<< <i>I am not Pete and I am sorry if I interrupted a perfectly good internet brawl. >>








rd


P.S. some of these threads do tend to take on a "life of their own"