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NEWP - 1834ZS OM Mexico 8R NGC AU58

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My latest from Northeast Numismatics. I really like these early date 8R coins.

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  • farthingfarthing Posts: 3,294 ✭✭✭
    Nice coin! image
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  • coinpicturescoinpictures Posts: 5,345 ✭✭✭
    58? I'm certainly no expert on these, but I would have called it 62-63 with some strike weakness at the center of the cap.

    Quite attractive!
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  • coinkatcoinkat Posts: 23,884 ✭✭✭✭✭
    These are very difficult to grade because the strkes vary so much even at the same mint

    nice coin and I like these as well. I think I have this date... might be an 1833 ZS. Just bought an 1831 zs but it is not as nice as this

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  • WWWWWW Posts: 2,609 ✭✭✭
    This coin is soooooo close to MS, but there is some very light rub on the high points.
    With my aging eyes it takes a 10x glass to see it. The luster is full and very flashy.
    Once again NEN really did an outstanding job. The coin is actually nicer looking
    than their image implies and the customer service is always first rate.
  • DoogyDoogy Posts: 4,508 ✭


    << <i>This coin is soooooo close to MS, but there is some very light rub on the high points.
    With my aging eyes it takes a 10x glass to see it. The luster is full and very flashy.
    Once again NEN really did an outstanding job. The coin is actually nicer looking
    than their image implies and the customer service is always first rate. >>



    very, very nice example; congrats! I agree with Dan on this one. I'll bet if you resubmit, it will come back as MS. PCGS's own grading guide allows minor cabinet friction and rub up to MS67, and NGC feels the same way. don't know what a 'MS' grade would do for the value, but if the luster is strong, i'll bet it would get bumped up.

    nice example!

  • coinkatcoinkat Posts: 23,884 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Unfortunately, submitting these is not as easy as it sounds... the striking characteristics combined with what is expected in certain grades without an appreciation that the centers can be weak and often an eagle's incomplete breast makes predicting what these coins should grade a near impossibility

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  • dizzleccdizzlecc Posts: 1,125 ✭✭✭
    Great looking coin. It is a winner regardless of what the plastic says.

    It has lots of character.

    You really have to do your homework to know the striking characteristics of each of the mexico mints. It seems as though Zacatecas was doing an average job in 1834 with a little softness in the center and a tad off center.
  • TwoKopeikiTwoKopeiki Posts: 9,875 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Very nice pick-up. '34 is a common date without any major varieties listed, but I like the look of this one. Especially the touch of color on the cap side. Grading is tough for the 1825-1842 due to the weak strike, but I would agree with the AU58. PCGS would probably give it a 50, since they tend to take strike imperfections into considerations.

    One of my own favorites is an 1842 Type I I have sitting in an ANACS 53 holder. Always liked the 1825-1842 eagle.

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  • DoogyDoogy Posts: 4,508 ✭


    << <i>Very nice pick-up. '34 is a common date without any major varieties listed, but I like the look of this one. Especially the touch of color on the cap side. Grading is tough for the 1825-1842 due to the weak strike, but I would agree with the AU58. PCGS would probably give it a 50, since they tend to take strike imperfections into considerations.

    One of my own favorites is an 1842 Type I I have sitting in an ANACS 53 holder. Always liked the 1825-1842 eagle. >>



    If they take strike considerations into consideration on these, then that is just silly and inconsistant. A '41-S Walker that is known for weak striking, much like these, often reach PCGS MS65 with a very flat hip, hand and dress area. A slew of other US coins that are known for common weak strikes are also given the same consideration. Doing the opposite for world coins is not conservative grading, but ignorance of the series and it's many nuances.

  • intenceintence Posts: 1,255 ✭
    stunning image
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