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Gum stains in old wax.... will it get worse over time?

digicatdigicat Posts: 8,551 ✭✭
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I've seen a few rips of 1972 packs on the boards here, and see how nasty the gum stains are. I have my own experience of finding horrible gum stains on early 80s wax from rips in the past 5 years as well, where the gum has bled down through 2 or 3 cards.

How long do you think the gum remains "active" in the pack? It seems that if the gum is still active (breaking down and staining the cards), then we'll get to a point where 100% of the cards in packs from a given year are going to be stained.
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  • bman90278bman90278 Posts: 3,453 ✭✭✭
    I would think they continue to get worse with time. I ripped some 78+79 wax packs last year and the single cards right up against the wax were destroyed but the stains didn't go through the card into the next ones. Maybe the extra 7 to 10 years is very detrimental? Plus, everything I read, BBCE does a great job checking the packs they buy and sell.

    brian

    Edit: somehow I didn't add the last sentence and I don't recall what is was?
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  • firedawg45firedawg45 Posts: 1,251 ✭✭✭
    get worse, it will destroy the card
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  • BarfvaderBarfvader Posts: 2,859 ✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Plus, everything I read, BBCE does a great job checking the packs they buy and sell. >>



    Following comments are not aimed at the great service from BBCE but they like anyone else can't know for certain the various climate changes that have occurred over the years as product goes from one hand to another. The outside can look perfect but when a product has been sitting in some cellar/attic/closet/etc and going from one climate extreme to another the gum will soften/harden with those changes and as can be seen it can get downright nasty.

    I personally know where there is some late 70's wax boxes (Baseball/Football/Basketball) that a candy dealer has been storing in his small warehouse since the date of issue that have gone through major climate changes up here in Maine. Also the rodents have nibbled on some of the boxes and I'm sure they have done their duty on the boxes as well and this I am sure has happened to many boxes and cases over the years.

    Just thought of this pack in a current auction. That's some nasty gum.

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  • bman90278bman90278 Posts: 3,453 ✭✭✭


    << <i><< Plus, everything I read, BBCE does a great job checking the packs they buy and sell. >> >>



    Somehow I left off the last sentence. ....Of course the better sellers are still somewhat limited and buyers are pretty much at their own risk.
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  • IchiroDeportedIchiroDeported Posts: 1,610 ✭
    the OPC is worse because of the special herbs and spices they use in Canada...
  • GriffinsGriffins Posts: 6,076 ✭✭✭
    The '55 pack was most likely from the Paris, Tn find. There was tons of water damage, and the cards and packs that were most affected are trainwrecks.
    As far as nasty gum, I ate a piece of '62 Topps gum on a resealed pack (thanks Rucnock image ) I opened about 2 years ago. Nasty does not begin to describe it.

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  • bman90278bman90278 Posts: 3,453 ✭✭✭


    << <i>The '55 pack was most likely from the Paris, Tn find. There was tons of water damage, and the cards and packs that were most affected are trainwrecks.
    As far as nasty gum, I ate a piece of '62 Topps gum on a resealed pack (thanks Rucnock image ) I opened about 2 years ago. Nasty does not begin to describe it. >>



    he should have at least given u fresh gum. lol image
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  • calaban7calaban7 Posts: 3,040 ✭✭✭✭


    << <i>As far as nasty gum, I ate a piece of '62 Topps gum on a resealed pack (thanks Rucnock image ) I opened about 2 years ago. Nasty does not begin to describe it. >>



    Was it better than ABC gum ?
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  • grote15grote15 Posts: 29,858 ✭✭✭✭✭
    If the packs are stored properly over the years, there should be minimal if any gum damage once the gum is petrified. The problem is that you can't always tell by looking at the pack if that was the case, and moisture and heat are the enemies of wax. The 1972 OPC packs were especially bad, but I've found that the gum in this particular issue is much worse than other years, for some reason (the gum in 1973 OPC packs, on the otherhand, is usually quite dry and leaves little or no damage). It also seems like many of these 72 OPC packs from BBCE are coming from boxes pulled from the same case(s), as this problem has plagued many of the 72 OPC packs going back for some time, as I recall one of the customer reviews on the site saying as much about a year or two back.


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  • stevekstevek Posts: 30,302 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>If the packs are stored properly over the years, there should be minimal if any gum damage once the gum is petrified. The problem is that you can't always tell by looking at the pack if that was the case, and moisture and heat are the enemies of wax. The 1972 OPC packs were especially bad, but I've found that the gum in this particular issue is much worse than other years, for some reason (the gum in 1973 OPC packs, on the otherhand, is usually quite dry and leaves little or no damage). It also seems like many of these 72 OPC packs from BBCE are coming from boxes pulled from the same case(s), as this problem has plagued many of the 72 OPC packs going back for some time, as I recall one of the customer reviews on the site saying as much about a year or two back. >>



    Hmmm - ya gotta wonder if the sellers know this information before they send out these packs, and take them back only if there are complaints...Ya just gotta wonder.
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