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Brutal Poppage for first submission

PowderedH2OPowderedH2O Posts: 2,443 ✭✭
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Well, I just got the results for my first submission and I think it might be the last. I own a couple hundred psa cards and I rated mine against what I had and I submitted what I considered to be 8's. I thought at worst I might see a 6. My 59 Starr had gloss, four sharp corners and good centering. My Namath was as good as any 8 I've seen on ebay. I just don't get it.


1 1 14123926 EXCELLENT-MINT 6 1959 TOPPS 1 JOHNNY UNITAS Card US
2 1 14123927 EXCELLENT-MINT+ 6.5 1959 TOPPS 10 JIM BROWN Card US
3 1 14123928 VERY GOOD-EXCELLENT 4 1959 TOPPS 23 BART STARR Card US
4 1 14123929 EXCELLENT 5 1972 TOPPS 343 JOE NAMATH IN ACTION Card US
5 1 14123930 NEAR MINT+ 7.5 1972 TOPPS 341 DICK BUTKUS IN ACTION Card US
6 1 14123931 NEAR MINT 7 1972 TOPPS 300 ALAN PAGE Card US

I guess I will see when I receive the package. Do they tell you a reason when they grade a card a particular way? Well, at least I have the only 1959 Jim Brown 6.5 in existence...
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  • bman90278bman90278 Posts: 3,453 ✭✭✭
    Do you have any scans of the cards before they were sent out? If you do please post them and you should get some good opinions.

    brian
    My Dodgers Rookie Cards Project
  • dontippetdontippet Posts: 2,610 ✭✭✭✭
    No, they don't tell you why a certain card graded a certain way. Like the guy above me said, post some pics, of either the raw cards or the slabbed cards and you'll receive more opinions than you want. Did you use a 10x loupe to examine them?
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  • Alfonz24Alfonz24 Posts: 3,115 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Well, I just got the results for my first submission and I think it might be the last. ... I just don't get it. >>



    Most, if not all of us felt the same way on the results of our first time (submission that is).
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  • sfmays24sfmays24 Posts: 1,002 ✭✭
    wrinkle = 5
  • digicatdigicat Posts: 8,551 ✭✭
    It takes time to learn to pre-grade accurately.

    In my first sub, I was a whole grade or two off in my estimates for 11 of the 12 cards I submitted. Sometimes what you HOPE for will bind you to reality.
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  • PowderedH2OPowderedH2O Posts: 2,443 ✭✭
    I don't even know what a loupe is.. lol. I just checked them out very carefully. The 4 is the only one I am highly confused about. It was about the same as the other two 59's I sent in. I really couldn't see any difference. But maybe under magnification someone else did. I'm not slamming PSA or anything, it just makes me wonder if it is worth my effort and money to send in the other 500 cards or so that I want to get graded. I did nail a couple of them. I told my girlfriend when they went out that the Unitas would get a 6 and that the Butkus would get between a 7 and 8 and it got a 7.5 (POP one...lol), so that really is between a 7 and 8. The Brown is pretty much where I thought it was. But my Page was nicer than my Butkus. And the Starr, I just have no clue. I don't have scans to send. Maybe when they arrive I can do so. Thanks for your input.
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  • packCollectorpackCollector Posts: 2,786 ✭✭✭
    from what you are saying , the 4 sounds like it may be a wrinkle as well, probably on the front as opposed to the back. may also be a bubble in the paper somewhere.
  • ymareaymarea Posts: 1,576 ✭✭✭
    Sometimes those wrinkles can be very difficult to see. I sent in a card recently that I thought was an easy 8...came back a 4. Sure enough, it had some tiny little wrinkles on the surface that I missed.

    When evaluating your cards be sure to use good lighting and powerful magnification. You must actively look for flaws. Don't take anything for granted. Be very tough on the card and you will not likely be disappointed. You'll get better at it with more experience.
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  • jeffcbayjeffcbay Posts: 8,950 ✭✭✭✭
    This made me want to go back and check out my first ever sub. I had higher hopes too. It happens, you'll learn like everyone else did, and get better the next time.

    Here's my cherry: (March 2005)

    1 1 90427372 GEM MINT 10 2001 UPPER DECK GOLF 1 TIGER WOODS Card US
    2 1 90427373 MINT 9 1993 UPPER DECK 449 DEREK JETER Card US
    3 1 90427374 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1987 DONRUSS 46 MARK McGWIRE Card US
    4 1 90427375 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1987 DONRUSS 361 BARRY BONDS Card US
    5 1 90427376 EXCELLENT-MINT 6 1987 DONRUSS ROOKIES 1 MARK McGWIRE Card US
    6 1 90427377 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1987 DONRUSS ROOKIES 47 RAFAEL PALMEIRO Card US
    7 1 90427378 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1987 DONRUSS ROOKIES 52 GREG MADDUX Card US
    8 1 90427379 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1982 DONRUSS 405 CAL RIPKEN JR. Card US
    9 1 90427380 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1982 FLEER 176 CAL RIPKEN JR. Card US
    10 1 90427381 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1982 TOPPS 21 ORIOLES FUTURE STARS BONNER/RIPKEN/SCHNEIDER Card US
  • larryallen73larryallen73 Posts: 6,067 ✭✭✭
    We all had the same feeling when we first submitted cards to PSA. I think there are few of us who submitted "8's" and actually got all 8's at first. You get better with time. This is part of the reason that high grade cards sell for a premium... they really are hard to come by! Better luck next time!
  • DboneesqDboneesq Posts: 18,219 ✭✭
    SH*T ... Makes me NOT want to know what my first submission will reveal! I sent my first submission of 56 cards the other day. My delivery confirmation shows they were received by PSA yesterday morning. They have not yet been logged in. Well, I'm heading down to FL tomorrow for a few days ... maybe when I get back next week I will see MY first disappointment! LOL ONLY time will tell.

    PS I sent my 6 freebies in today, along with 6 1967 Laughlin World Series PSA 8s and 7s that were mistakenly labeled as 1970 Fleer World Series cards.
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