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Fast but brutal Jan. special poppage

HeritageAddictHeritageAddict Posts: 3,266
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While I'm quite amazed at the turn around time, some of these grades really have me blown away. If they make it back to me before the end of the month I'll definitely be cracking and resubmitting a few.

Line # Item # Cert # Grade Description Type Country
1 1 14110231 EXCELLENT-MINT 6 1983 FLEER STICKERS 64 WADE BOGGS Card US
1 2 14110232 NEAR MINT 7 1983 FLEER STICKERS 64 WADE BOGGS Card US
2 1 14110233 MINT 9 1983 FLEER STICKERS 141 RYAN & ASHBY Card US
2 2 14110234 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1983 FLEER STICKERS 141 RYAN & ASHBY Card US
3 1 14110235 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1983 FLEER STICKERS 143 A.OLIVER/P.ROSE Card US
4 1 14110236 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1983 FLEER STICKERS 145 M.SCHMIDT/P.ROSE/R.KNIGHT Card US
4 2 14110237 NEAR MINT-MINT+ 8.5 1983 FLEER STICKERS 145 M.SCHMIDT/P.ROSE/R.KNIGHT Card US
4 3 14110238 EXCELLENT 5 1983 FLEER STICKERS 145 M.SCHMIDT/P.ROSE/R.KNIGHT Card US
4 4 14110239 EXCELLENT 5 1983 FLEER STICKERS 145 M.SCHMIDT/P.ROSE/R.KNIGHT Card US
5 1 14110240 MINT 9 1983 FLEER STICKERS 192 RICKEY HENDERSON Card US
6 1 14110241 EXCELLENT 5 1983 FLEER STICKERS 174 PETE ROSE Card US
7 1 14110242 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1983 FLEER STICKERS 198 CAL RIPKEN JR. Card US
8 1 14110243 MINT 9 1983 FLEER STICKERS 207 NOLAN RYAN Card US
8 2 14110244 N8: MISCUT 1983 FLEER STICKERS 207 NOLAN RYAN Card US
9 1 14110245 NEAR MINT 7 1986 TOPPS TATTOOS PERFORATED DON MATTINGLY PERFORATED Card US
10 1 14110246 EXCELLENT 5 1986 TOPPS TATTOOS PERFORATED CAL RIPKEN PERFORATED Card US
Total Items: 16
Date Received: 1/16/2009
Date Shipped: N/A
Order Status: OK
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  • smallstockssmallstocks Posts: 1,696 ✭✭✭✭
    Was that poopage from today? I thought they were closed?

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  • HeritageAddictHeritageAddict Posts: 3,266
    They received it Friday and the grades popped today.
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  • lsutigers1973lsutigers1973 Posts: 11,093 ✭
    That is either friggin brutal or you were drunk when you picked out the cards to sub this month.
  • HeritageAddictHeritageAddict Posts: 3,266
    I didn't really have high hopes as these were all perforated, but I honestly thought I would end up with about 8-8s, 6-9s, and 2-10s. Maybe the package got submerged in water on the way there and the tattoos bled all over the rest of the cards. I'm just glad I haven't sent in my other sticker and tattoo sub.
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  • lsutigers1973lsutigers1973 Posts: 11,093 ✭


    << <i>I didn't really have high hopes as these were all perforated, but I honestly thought I would end up with about 8-8s, 6-9s, and 2-10s >>



    I hope they aren't getting strict on perforated cards. I am about to send in some minty fresh 1981 Kelloggs cards that are perforated that I had to gently separate.
  • lawnmowermanlawnmowerman Posts: 19,477 ✭✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>I didn't really have high hopes as these were all perforated, but I honestly thought I would end up with about 8-8s, 6-9s, and 2-10s >>



    I hope they aren't getting strict on perforated cards. I am about to send in some minty fresh 1981 Kelloggs cards that are perforated that I had to gently separate. >>




    If you didn't pull off any of the card's surface, you should be fine.

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  • BoopottsBoopotts Posts: 6,784 ✭✭
    If you can ever figure out what they're looking for on the '86 Tattoos you'll definitely be a step ahead of me. I've probably submitted over 70 of these, and my grades on them are still all over the map (but usually on the 'wrong side' of the map). It's at the point now where I've just given up.

    Ditto on the '83 stickers. In fact, these two issues, along with the '82 Fleer stamps, are the three issues that I'm apparently incapable of pre-grading. So if it's any consolation you at least have some company when it comes to getting lousy grades on these cards.
  • lsutigers1973lsutigers1973 Posts: 11,093 ✭


    << <i>If you didn't pull off any of the card's surface, you should be fine. >>



    The Kelloggs are like 2 cards in one. The 3-D surface is glued on to the cardboard. Impossible to separate them without having a piece of a corner or two missing on the cardboard.
  • BoopottsBoopotts Posts: 6,784 ✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>If you didn't pull off any of the card's surface, you should be fine. >>



    The Kelloggs are like 2 cards in one. The 3-D surface is glued on to the cardboard. Impossible to separate them without having a piece of a corner or two missing on the cardboard. >>



    FWIW I think grading '91 Kelloggs is a losing proposition. Hopefully your results are different from mine, but IMExperience these invariably get slotted in a PSA 9 or PSA 8 holder, and that's the end of it. It's a deceptively difficult issue to get into a PSA 10 holder, although they always look like they have a shot after you separate them.
  • HeritageAddictHeritageAddict Posts: 3,266
    That is some consolation, I had some nice big scans of 8s, 9s, and 10s to compare them with but evidently that wasn't enough.
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  • BoopottsBoopotts Posts: 6,784 ✭✭


    << <i>That is some consolation, I had some nice big scans of 8s, 9s, and 10s to compare them with but evidently that wasn't enough. >>



    If there's one thing I've learned it's that you can't be too hard on yourself when you get the grades back on these oddball issues. If you submit a bunch of '82 Topps, for instance, at it comes back with 6% 10's, then obviously there's a problem in the pre-grading. But with the oddball issues you just never know. This goes double for perforated cards and hand-cuts; since PSA doesn't see a lot of these you're really at the mercy of the whim of the grader. I send in 1000's of oddball cards annually, and I'm always still surprised at some of the grades that emerge.
  • lsutigers1973lsutigers1973 Posts: 11,093 ✭


    << <i>That is some consolation, I had some nice big scans of 8s, 9s, and 10s to compare them with but evidently that wasn't enough. >>



    I hope I'm not making the same mistake with teh 81 Kelloggs using PSA 10 scans from eBay. Mine look just as clean and they all came from sealed factory sets.
  • BoopottsBoopotts Posts: 6,784 ✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>That is some consolation, I had some nice big scans of 8s, 9s, and 10s to compare them with but evidently that wasn't enough. >>



    I hope I'm not making the same mistake with teh 81 Kelloggs using PSA 10 scans from eBay. Mine look just as clean and they all came from sealed factory sets. >>



    One thing to consider is that if all one had to do to get 10's from this set was to buy factory sets and cleanly separate them then 4SC, or some other bulk submitter, probably would have run up the pops a long time ago. But, who knows? Maybe you'll get a kind grader.
  • lsutigers1973lsutigers1973 Posts: 11,093 ✭


    << <i>But, who knows? Maybe you'll get a kind grader. >>



    That's what I am always hoping for. My fear with grading is that I will only send in a few and get great grades and be mad because I didn't send them all. On the other hand, I am scared to send them all and get the nitpicky grader that is having a bad day and gives me all 5's and 6's.
  • BoopottsBoopotts Posts: 6,784 ✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>But, who knows? Maybe you'll get a kind grader. >>



    That's what I am always hoping for. My fear with grading is that I will only send in a few and get great grades and be mad because I didn't send them all. On the other hand, I am scared to send them all and get the nitpicky grader that is having a bad day and gives me all 5's and 6's. >>



    Well, if you manage to score a bunch of 10's from this set you'll probably hit the jackpot, because these cards don't show up all that often in PSA 10 holders. On the downside, I think 9's usually sell for the grading fee.
  • lsutigers1973lsutigers1973 Posts: 11,093 ✭


    << <i>Well, if you manage to score a bunch of 10's from this set you'll probably hit the jackpot, because these cards don't show up all that often in PSA 10 holders. On the downside, I think 9's usually sell for the grading fee. >>

    .

    Exactly. The higher pop PSA 10 HOF'ers and low pop PSA 10 commons sell in the $50-75 range. PSA 9's sell for about $3-5.
  • BoopottsBoopotts Posts: 6,784 ✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>Well, if you manage to score a bunch of 10's from this set you'll probably hit the jackpot, because these cards don't show up all that often in PSA 10 holders. On the downside, I think 9's usually sell for the grading fee. >>

    .

    Exactly. The higher pop PSA 10 HOF'ers and low pop PSA 10 commons sell in the $50-75 range. PSA 9's sell for about $3-5. >>



    FWIW you can probably do much better with the HOFers than $50-$75 if you're willing to park them in your store for a while. Especially any of the higher profile HOFers. I wouldn't let a pop 3 of a top-tier HOF go for any less than $125, and you'll get that price eventually if you're patient. If you just run them for seven days and take whatever you can, though, the results could be much worse.
  • firedawg45firedawg45 Posts: 1,251 ✭✭✭
    i agree, psa is all over the board on 83 fleer stickers, ive sent my share of roses in that range from psa 5 to psa 10 that were right from packs...i sent 6 roses with whitaker on it, highest is a 6.5 so i finally gave up on that one..
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  • HighChopperHighChopper Posts: 1,091
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