Is this 1909 Matte proof Lincoln one for the Posse?

RBinTex

Hmmmm?

lusterlover

I say no based upon the rims and the strike. It's been cleaned as well.

illini420

That's quite a bit of cash for an uncertified matte proof... I think it's $500 less than last week though... For $3k there's some awfully pretty 1909 matte proofs available that are already in PCGS holders.

NHC

<< <i>That's quite a bit of cash for an uncertified matte proof... I think it's $500 less than last week though... For $3k there's some awfully pretty 1909 matte proofs available that are already in PCGS holders....... >>



Yes.............Yes there is!

ambro51

Blow up the reverse image and you can see the two diagnostic die polish lines between the rim and wheat ear, to the left of UNITED. I compared the image with one of my 09's and the diagnostics are without a doubt present. Also, as we have established, the Reverse C diagnostic scratch is not on this coin, as it should not be on the proof. So,it is a proof.

?Why did he want to grade it MS?, just a slip of the pen perhaps since after 40 years collecting you would catch on that the designation needs to be PR or PF. Hmmmmm.

I can't grade this, I don't like the color. It could, if not just entombed in a gennie, go BN. All the red, the real red, is gone. Unless of course the ditigal pictures for this coin are not accurate.

renomedphys

I just think that if you're going to list an uncertified MPL, you should at least make it easy to see the diagnostics. I say no MPL, pending investigation.

Duane

Agreed. Cannot see any classic diagnostics or surface texture, it shows an uneven rim width on the obverse as well as 6:00 O'Clock beveling, and lacks strike detail. Without seeing better photos or in-hand, I have doubts.

mozeppa

I have compared this coin to graded examples from PCGS and Heritage and in my opinion would grade out minimum at MS64-65 Red.

MS is correct!....thats no more a matte proof than I'm Matt Damon