I'm pretty excited with my latest eBay find ( 1987 Leaf Rip)

jswieton · January 12, 2009 5:39PM

Leaf box 1
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Leaf box 2
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Leaf box 3-

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I am pretty excited I just got a sweet deal on eBay today. I am a huge fan of 1987 Leaf. I try and pick up a box when ever i can find them from reputable sources. BBCE will have them on a very rare occasion so I don’t get to rip them as frequently as I would like. Steve usually lists them for $35-$40 a box.

Anyway, a seller that I have done business with in the past that sells legit high quality unopened wax listed three boxes last week. I noticed that he had sold a few back in early to mid December so I emailed the winners of the boxes and asked them about the condition of the cards and how many Maddox’s they scored from each box. Both of the buyers pulled two from each box and said that the centering was pretty good and had clean edges and good corners.

I then noticed that the shipping was kind of steep on each of the boxes so I email the seller and asked him about combined shipping. He replied and said that he wasn’t looking to make money on the shipping and would charge me the actual shipping rates plus a few bucks for supplies.

I set my snipe for $27 a box which is much higher than they have sold for in the past, so I was pretty sure I would win them. Anyway, I was astonished at the final price when I checked my email and found out that I had won all three boxes. The first two I won for $6.50 per box and the third I won for an eye popping $2.77. These three boxes should keep me busy this weekend and I hope to finish up my mint set. This is by far the best deal I've won I ebay in a long time

VitoCo1972 · January 12, 2009 5:48PM

I am looking for a PSA 10 Carlton Fisk. If you like, we can work out a price for the nicest 3-4 examples in advance if you like. PM me if interested.

jswieton · January 12, 2009 5:52PM

I will send you all of the Fisks if you would like. I already have the 1 mint one I want PM me your address and I will send you them once I rip them. I might only rip two boxes and put the third with my unopened material.

VitoCo1972 · January 12, 2009 5:55PM

Very generous, sir. PM sent. Thanks!!

slantycouch · January 12, 2009 9:42PM

Fantastic pickups! Nice work.

MeteoriteGuy · January 12, 2009 10:57PM

Nice.

MBMiller25 · January 12, 2009 11:00PM

John, Sweet pickup, I look forward to seeing the results. Congrats.

lsutigers1973 · January 12, 2009 11:25PM

The only reason you got them that cheap is becaue I changed my mind on bidding with a few minutes left. The seller also had two cases of 2001 UD golf for sale. I only avoided bidding on both cases and the three Leaf boxes because he had shill bid his 2 cases.

Notice the bidder that jacked up the price at the minimal $5 increment.

Case #1

Case #2

John, let me know how much he charges you for total shipping.

WinPitcher · January 13, 2009 12:32AM

Bill not to defend this guy but I have seen many legit bidders do exactly this. Some bid in increments.

Now if you have other proof that I am not seeing you could be right.

When I first started on ebay I bid just like that at times.

Steve

lsutigers1973 · January 13, 2009 12:34AM

<< Now if you have other proof that I am not seeing you could be right. >>

I have no other proof. The current state of eBay makes me assume things that I would not have assumed 5 years ago. It was just the fact that the same bidder bid the minimum and stopped just as he got to the current highest bid. Notice he did not bid again or win one of the two auctions.

fattymacs · January 13, 2009 12:35AM

I still bid like that at times.

bman90278 · January 13, 2009 12:38AM

Nice pickups John. Looking forward to seeing your rips.

jswieton · January 13, 2009 1:51AM

<< The only reason you got them that cheap is becaue I changed my mind on bidding with a few minutes left. The seller also had two cases of 2001 UD golf for sale. I only avoided bidding on both cases and the three Leaf boxes because he had shill bid his 2 cases.

Notice the bidder that jacked up the price at the minimal $5 increment.

Case #1

Case #2

John, let me know how much he charges you for total shipping. >>

What were you going to bid on these Leaf boxes? He charged me $20 for the shipping of three boxes. It is very high but I am not going to argue about it considering how cheap I got the boxes for.

larryallen73 · January 13, 2009 1:59AM

Nice deals on the Leaf boxes.

I wonder why the "shill" didn't bid those up to reasonable numbers!?

FYI, I bid like that sometimes and I am not shilling. Just too lazy to go set a snipe.

leathtech · January 13, 2009 2:16AM

I agree I'm lazy too sometimes... I also take some enjoyment in trying to figure out what someone's bid price has been set at.

nightcrawler · January 13, 2009 2:38AM

<< He charged me $20 for the shipping of three boxes. It is very high but I am not going to argue about it considering how cheap I got the boxes for. >>

Well if he packs them up properly it's not to bad. Just a little over $6.50 a box seems reasonable, IMO.

jfkheat · January 13, 2009 8:59AM

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<< Now if you have other proof that I am not seeing you could be right. >>

I have no other proof. The current state of eBay makes me assume things that I would not have assumed 5 years ago. It was just the fact that the same bidder bid the minimum and stopped just as he got to the current highest bid. Notice he did not bid again or win one of the two auctions. >>

Sorry but I have to disagree with you here. The person you are claiming is the shill bidder was the high bidder for the last 2 or 3 days of the auctions. They were out bid in the last few minutes of both auctions.
James

lsutigers1973 · January 13, 2009 9:05AM

<< Sorry but I have to disagree with you here. The person you are claiming is the shill bidder was the high bidder for the last 2 or 3 days of the auctions. They were out bid in the last few minutes of both auctions. >>

You obviously didn't look very close. He stopped bidding each day when he reached the highest bid. He didn't bid again until someone outbid the original high bidder. Look at the times closely and you will see it is rather obvious.

BassPro77 · January 13, 2009 9:08AM

not a bad deal. i just got a box 87 donruss for $22 with shipping.

good find

jfkheat · January 13, 2009 10:58AM

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<< Sorry but I have to disagree with you here. The person you are claiming is the shill bidder was the high bidder for the last 2 or 3 days of the auctions. They were out bid in the last few minutes of both auctions. >>

You obviously didn't look very close. He stopped bidding each day when he reached the highest bid. He didn't bid again until someone outbid the original high bidder. Look at the times closely and you will see it is rather obvious. >>

In the first auction you posted the "shill" bidder placed his first bid, $115, on Jan 7th at 6:32:41 PST. He was high bidder until 7:44:08 the same day. He reclaimed the high bid, $120, at 11:26:46 the same day. He was outbid again that day at 12:10:53. On the 8th he started bidding again at 12:12:54 and reclaimed the high bid, $135, at 12:13:44. He was the high bidder for 4 days. He was outbid on Jan 12th at 13:38:38 and the winning bidder placed his bid with about 4 minutes left in the auction.

In the 2nd one you posted he started bidding on Jan 6th at 2:33:03 and bid 7 times until he matched the high bid at $130. He stopped there. On Jan 8th a previous bidder submitted a bid of $140. On the 10th the "shill" bidder made 3 bids until he was the high bidder at $145. He stopped there because he had the high bid. He was outbid on the 12th with about 4 minutes left in the auction. If this were shill bidding he would have stopped when he matched the high bid of $140 on the 10th.

I may be reading it all wrong but this is the way I see it. Please explain it to me if I'm reading it wrong.
James

CrimsonTider · January 14, 2009 1:35AM

I will gladly buy or trade for your extra Dale Murphy's

BPorter26 · January 14, 2009 3:32AM

John, Great pick up. You can not go wrong spending less then $3 on a box of cards. Nice Job.

Bobby

jswieton · January 17, 2009 4:31PM

I just recieved the boxes today and the look great. I still can't believe I got them for these prices. I wasn't sure the seller was going to even ship them to me for those prices. I think I will rip one tonight, one tomarrow after the football games and save one for my unopend collection. I will post scan sometime tomarrow.

jswieton · January 18, 2009 4:32AM

Here is the first box I riped. I am pretty happy with the cards I pulled. I will rip the second box after football tonight.
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IchiroDeported · January 18, 2009 4:35AM

"He charged me $20 for the shipping of three boxes. It is very high but I am not going to argue about it considering how cheap I got the boxes "

$10 flat rate priority box easily fits 4 boxes.

jswieton · January 19, 2009 7:02AM

Here is the second box. I am only scanning the key rc's and hof'ers that could grade a 10. I just don't have then energy today to scan everything. I am so tempted in ripping the third box

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MBMiller25 · January 19, 2009 7:16AM

John, That first box was insane. Nice pulls.

CrimsonTider · January 19, 2009 7:18AM

The thing that I like the most with the 87 Donruss and Leaf's is the fact that it is easy to check the left to right centering by looking at the baseballs on the cards.

You have some that are very sweet.

slantycouch · January 19, 2009 7:22AM

Very nice! Some of those look great.

I'm pretty excited with my latest eBay find ( 1987 Leaf Rip)

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