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"No returns on graded cards"

What is the rationale for that?

I would think that returned graded cards are much more liquid than raw ones. Isn't reselling slabbed cards a heck of a lot easier than reselling raws? The graded card market seems to be much more stable.

As far as being worried about a buyer "cracking cards out" and substituting...man, isn't that so "90s?"

Why do so many sellers state this?

Nick

Comments

  • slantycouchslantycouch Posts: 1,704 ✭✭✭
    I think it's more "it's graded, you should know what you're getting and i don't want to deal with returns."
  • storm888storm888 Posts: 11,701 ✭✭✭
    The EBAY fee-structure is not devised to accommodate sellers
    running an "approval service."

    IF the card is TP-graded - and properly illustrated and described -
    there is no reason for returns, other than "buyer's remorse."

    However, many sellers accept returns.





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  • nearmintnearmint Posts: 1,111 ✭✭✭
    I've always stated that I accept returns of graded cards, and in 10 years I've had maybe 8-9 returned--and that includes 5-6 from one order. (In that case I knew beforehand that the customer might send some back.) I know that allowing returns gets me more sales, so to me it's well worth the hassle of taking a few back.

    Most of us have received cards that were mis-graded by the grading company. I don't think it's good business to effectively say "you touched it last" to the customer and stick him with a bum card.
  • SOMSOM Posts: 1,555 ✭✭✭
    I agree with you nearmint; I sell the same way.

    What does "TP-graded" mean, storm?

    Nick
  • storm888storm888 Posts: 11,701 ✭✭✭
    "...What does "TP-graded" mean, storm.."


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  • SOMSOM Posts: 1,555 ✭✭✭
    Thanks!
  • A lot of cards will go for more the first 3-10 PSA 10's, depending on set. All of us that collect modern sets understand this. The card could go for a fair $20.00, and then have three listed to end next Friday that doubled the popular and will likely only for $10.00 each. In some examples like Ryan cards, the difference can be a hundreds. So I find it understandable.
    Collecting PSA graded Steve Young, Marcus Allen, Bret Saberhagen and 1980s Topps Cards.
    Raw: Tony Gonzalez (low #'d cards, and especially 1/1's) and Steve Young.
  • SOMSOM Posts: 1,555 ✭✭✭
    Never thought of that, meteorite. TY!
  • SDSportsFanSDSportsFan Posts: 5,181 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Another reason I've heard of for sellers to not accept returns on graded cards, is that many buyers are just "trolling for upgrades", meaning they'll buy a PSA 8 hoping it's good enough to resubmit for a 9. When they get it and actually look at it and realize it's accurately graded, they want to send it back for a refund.

    It's basically just a complete waste of the seller's time and effort to allow buyers to do this.


    Steve
  • nearmintnearmint Posts: 1,111 ✭✭✭


    << <i>Another reason I've heard of for sellers to not accept returns on graded cards, is that many buyers are just "trolling for upgrades", meaning they'll buy a PSA 8 hoping it's good enough to resubmit for a 9. When they get it and actually look at it and realize it's accurately graded, they want to send it back for a refund.

    It's basically just a complete waste of the seller's time and effort to allow buyers to do this. >>



    Intuitively that might seem like a problem, but I've sold thousands--even tens of thousands--of graded cards in the past ten years, and I've never run into this. Only one ebay buyer has returned an accurately graded card to me, and I don't think he was trying to upgrade, he just overextended and needed the cash back.

    I dunno, I think sometimes we try to imagine all the ways a customer could do us wrong, and in guarding against that we give the rest of our customers poorer service. I'd rather risk taking an occasional hit from a deadbeat customer than make policies that annoy the other 99+% of my customers.
  • onebamafanonebamafan Posts: 1,318 ✭✭
    I think because their description of the item is no longer subjective (ex, ex-mt, etc.........) it is a psa 5 or 6 whatever.....................you should accept the card as graded by a trusted TPG. You should reasonably expect the grade of the card matches its label. Just my two.
  • storm888storm888 Posts: 11,701 ✭✭✭
    "...You should reasonably expect the grade of the card matches its label. ..."

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    The sight-unseen commerce that is enabled by TPGs would
    be destroyed by the subjective nature of an "amateur's"
    opinion being substituted for that of the reputable "professionals."

    Second-guessing the TPGs is fun, but if it becomes the standard
    by which "SNADs" are determined, the whole TPG game will be redundant.
    (Even EBAY/PayPal and the credit-card companies recognize this.)

    While all PSA 10s are NOT equal, "a PSA 10 IS a PSA 10."

    A poor or fraudulent scan or description, obviously, creates an exception
    to the general notion that many sellers subscribe to: "No Returns On Graded Cards."

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    There is little doubt that EBAY sellers who welcome returns are advantaged
    in that market. I simply choose not to pay EBAY for the privilege of running an
    approval service on their site.



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