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*** Short *** Term Gold and Silver Trade Discussion - January

ProofCollectionProofCollection Posts: 6,050 ✭✭✭✭✭
I have started this thread to bring together those of us who trade PM's on a short term basis: from a few days to a few weeks. No one is a PM bull or a PM hater here - we're just playing the short term trends. We don't care if you think gold is headed to $5000 in the next two years, we want to know where it will be in two days or two weeks.

Use technical (chart) analysis, news events, or whatever data to discuss when and where the next turn is going to be. Be sure to describe this to us - your projections are worthless unless we know how you're deriving your projections.

This thread is just to help traders collaborate and share viewpoints and interpretations since charts and news can be read in many different ways. That being said, I DO NOT advise anyone to use the information provided here for their investment decisions. This is for fun only.

I'll start a new thread every month.

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  • ProofCollectionProofCollection Posts: 6,050 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I got this from my options xpress newsletter today, thought it was interesting:

    Today I would like to focus on the daily chart for February Gold going out 1 year. Even though the price of Gold held up relatively well during the past year, especially when compared to the performance of other commodities, it has made four consecutive lower highs! In addition, the Fibonacci retracement from last year's high to last year's low shows the recent highs were stopped almost exactly at the 61.8% retracement. These are both considered bearish signals and may set the stage for lower Gold prices at the start of 2009. However, Gold bulls would counter that prices still remain above both the 20 and 100-day moving averages, and that the 14-day RSI is above 50. Resistance is seen at the recent highs of 892.00, with major resistance at the October highs of 938.80. Support is seen at the recent lows at 837.40, with major support seen at the 100-day Moving Average currently at 811.60.
  • ProofCollectionProofCollection Posts: 6,050 ✭✭✭✭✭
    As I write this, gold is at $847.5 following an overnight dip to $840. If you look at the daily chart, since the lows at $750, there have been two breakouts and two tests back down to those breakouts. One at about $750 and the other at about $830-840. Last night's move was a second test to this area. Sometimes there can be a third test or the market may very well be ready for the next breakout move, which looks to be $920.
  • In 2008, first the dollar, then oil, led gold around like a cow with a ring in its nose. Lately, the very short term moves have not been so closely correlated. Something is going on that is a bit different from what was going on.

    Recently I have been writing about the "cash bubble," where folks want zero risk. Treasuries on all stripes have benefited from this. It got to the silly season where 4-week bills had ZERO yield and ten year bonds were around 2%. Gold is a potential beneficiary of this kind of thinking. Perhaps some of the big buyers parked their money in gold thinking it to had some element of zero risk. This bubble in treasuries has begun to unwind, at least in the very short term, and gold has been following. Both have taken big losses yesterday and again this morning. Again the bigger market is treasuries, look to the bigger market as the leader, the smaller market as the follower. It will be interesting to see how long TLT and GLD continue to move together. It is an unusual pair of bed-mates.







  • 57loaded57loaded Posts: 4,967 ✭✭✭
    RedTiger, good short term analysis

    the cash hoard bubble needs to be popped and will sometime in the future, i think it is part of the evolution of this economic cycle.

    the Fed will be walking a new tight rope with a very unbalanced "balancing pole" when the bubble breaks.

  • ProofCollectionProofCollection Posts: 6,050 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I have to change my call a little bit. Gold had a lot of trouble last night/this morning at $868. There is a possibility for a correction now down to about $775. So I'll be looking for a decisive breakout above $868, until then, I'll be weary of a correction here.
  • ProofCollectionProofCollection Posts: 6,050 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Looks like we are in for that correction in my previous post. Target is $775 or $795 for now.
  • If a person connects all the tops on the chart below, it makes for one bearish chart.

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    Draw a parallel channel to the tops at the 70 low and it projects to 67 or so (about $680 spot gold) in mid-March or so. As always charts aren't predictive, more like driving using the rearview mirror and projecting that the past will be prologue. Still, there are times that the simple techniques like channels and trendlines do work.

  • ProofCollectionProofCollection Posts: 6,050 ✭✭✭✭✭
    It kind of looks to me like a "Bull" Flag in an uptrend according to this webpage. The only thing that doesn't quite fit is the gradually increasing size of the oscillations.
  • storm888storm888 Posts: 11,701 ✭✭✭
    There appears to be a fairly large SHORT attack on the way.

    If I had no metals, I might buy a little here. Otherwise, it is
    still best to wait.

    I have NOT covered any GLD or SLV SHORT positions. I hope
    to do so, soon.

    Folks Who Bite Get Bitten. Folks Who Don't Bite Get Eaten.
  • ProofCollectionProofCollection Posts: 6,050 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I'm seeing a test of the $770's, and maybe $750 in the future for Thurs and/or Friday. I am expecting a sharp, fast bounce if this does happen and will be going long at that point.
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