paypal question
clayshooter22
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Anybody run into this one:
Guy sends money and confirmed address is:
156 Richie Court
St. James, NY
Paypal will not let me print label because they say that the USPS "reccommended" address is:
156 Richie CT N
Saint James, NY
I call and they will not offer buyer protection unless he changes address, which he has said he will not do????
Anybody know user dboneesq?
I know if I edit address I have 0% chance of keeping my money in a chargeback and I've not done business with this guy so unsure about the risk. He claims 7000 transactions but I never can tell.
Anybody know how to get around this. I called Paypal and they said only fix is to get him to change......thanks for the help paypal.
Mike
Guy sends money and confirmed address is:
156 Richie Court
St. James, NY
Paypal will not let me print label because they say that the USPS "reccommended" address is:
156 Richie CT N
Saint James, NY
I call and they will not offer buyer protection unless he changes address, which he has said he will not do????
Anybody know user dboneesq?
I know if I edit address I have 0% chance of keeping my money in a chargeback and I've not done business with this guy so unsure about the risk. He claims 7000 transactions but I never can tell.
Anybody know how to get around this. I called Paypal and they said only fix is to get him to change......thanks for the help paypal.
Mike
Kirby Puckett Master Set
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Good luck.
Just a hassle.
Mike
Kirby Puckett Master Set
I just fill out the DC-ticket like PP demands, and address the package like the buyer demands.
It's not a perfect solution, but the online-DC only shows the zip-code. As long as the zip is the
one PP demands, I don't see a problem. (And, of course, I don't use PP shipping labels.)
BUT, nobody has ever burned me on it so I have not "tested" the theory.
If you feel spooky, use signature confirmation.
<< <i>Anybody run into this one:
Guy sends money and confirmed address is:
156 Richie Court
St. James, NY
Paypal will not let me print label because they say that the USPS "reccommended" address is:
156 Richie CT N
Saint James, NY
I call and they will not offer buyer protection unless he changes address, which he has said he will not do????
Anybody know user dboneesq?
I know if I edit address I have 0% chance of keeping my money in a chargeback and I've not done business with this guy so unsure about the risk. He claims 7000 transactions but I never can tell.
Anybody know how to get around this. I called Paypal and they said only fix is to get him to change......thanks for the help paypal.
Mike >>
ARE YOU KIDDING ME????????? I am the person this seller is talking about. FIRST OF ALL, IT'S A FRIGGIN TWENTY DOLLAR ITEM!!!!! 20 BUCKS! I send the money right away. (I ASSUME YOU USED THE WRONG HOUSE NUMBER PURPOSELY) Who claimed 7,000 transactions?????? I said I have in excess of 2,500 transactions on eBay using the same name as I use here, with 100% feedback. I have used PayPal for almost every one of those transactions and NEVER had a problem. I have TENS OF THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS in transactions ... I'm going to chargeback $20.00???????? Screw up my reputation for TWENTY DOLLARS? If I knew you were that concerned over $20 I never would have purchased those low value cards from you.
IF YOU NEED TO PROTECT YOUR $20.00 JUST SEND ME BACK THE FRIGGIN $20.00 TO MY PAYPAL ACCOUNT! GEESH!
Doug
Liquidating my collection for the 3rd and final time. Time for others to enjoy what I have enjoyed over the last several decades. Money could be put to better use.
Just print it the way Paypal wants it
and then "hand print" the street address the way the buyer wants it (on or by the printed address).
the post man will figure it all out, and get it delivered correctly for you,
...this way u still will get "protection" from Paypal!
rd
Quicksilver Messenger Service - Smokestack Lightning (Live) 1968
Quicksilver Messenger Service - The Hat (Live) 1971
yeah- i see doug, hes right there
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<< <i>Anybody run into this one:
Guy sends money and confirmed address is:
156 Richie Court
St. James, NY
Paypal will not let me print label because they say that the USPS "reccommended" address is:
156 Richie CT N
Saint James, NY
I call and they will not offer buyer protection unless he changes address, which he has said he will not do????
Anybody know user dboneesq?
I know if I edit address I have 0% chance of keeping my money in a chargeback and I've not done business with this guy so unsure about the risk. He claims 7000 transactions but I never can tell.
Anybody know how to get around this. I called Paypal and they said only fix is to get him to change......thanks for the help paypal.
Mike >>
ARE YOU KIDDING ME????????? I am the person this seller is talking about. FIRST OF ALL, IT'S A FRIGGIN TWENTY DOLLAR ITEM!!!!! 20 BUCKS! I send the money right away. (I ASSUME YOU USED THE WRONG HOUSE NUMBER PURPOSELY) Who claimed 7,000 transactions?????? I said I have in excess of 2,500 transactions on eBay using the same name as I use here, with 100% feedback. I have used PayPal for almost every one of those transactions and NEVER had a problem. I have TENS OF THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS in transactions ... I'm going to chargeback $20.00???????? Screw up my reputation for TWENTY DOLLARS? If I knew you were that concerned over $20 I never would have purchased those low value cards from you.
IF YOU NEED TO PROTECT YOUR $20.00 JUST SEND ME BACK THE FRIGGIN $20.00 TO MY PAYPAL ACCOUNT! GEESH! >>
IMHO, it was a little insensitive I feel to have gone about this the way Shooter did. What he did as I see it was questioned the integrity of the person buying from him, which in of itself is not wrong, just the public means and demeanor he used in trying to do this. I would feel somewhat upset myself if I were in Dboneesq shoes and someone questioned my good name and reputation as a SENIOR member here with nearly 300 posts! I mean, Clayshooter --- you have been a member here since 2006 and you did not know this person? He is on nearly every meaningful post!!! Why wouldn't you check the buyer out first before saying something publicly or insinuating that you might get burnt buy this person? That is where I feel you went wrong. I am not judging what you did, only trying to express how I see it. Ans as a part of this community, I feel I have a responsibility to say what I see and to try and make this a better place for all of us!
Best wishes,
EARL
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<< <i>Anybody run into this one:
Guy sends money and confirmed address is:
156 Richie Court
St. James, NY
Paypal will not let me print label because they say that the USPS "reccommended" address is:
156 Richie CT N
Saint James, NY
I call and they will not offer buyer protection unless he changes address, which he has said he will not do????
Anybody know user dboneesq?
I know if I edit address I have 0% chance of keeping my money in a chargeback and I've not done business with this guy so unsure about the risk. He claims 7000 transactions but I never can tell.
Anybody know how to get around this. I called Paypal and they said only fix is to get him to change......thanks for the help paypal.
Mike >>
ARE YOU KIDDING ME????????? I am the person this seller is talking about. FIRST OF ALL, IT'S A FRIGGIN TWENTY DOLLAR ITEM!!!!! 20 BUCKS! I send the money right away. (I ASSUME YOU USED THE WRONG HOUSE NUMBER PURPOSELY) Who claimed 7,000 transactions?????? I said I have in excess of 2,500 transactions on eBay using the same name as I use here, with 100% feedback. I have used PayPal for almost every one of those transactions and NEVER had a problem. I have TENS OF THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS in transactions ... I'm going to chargeback $20.00???????? Screw up my reputation for TWENTY DOLLARS? If I knew you were that concerned over $20 I never would have purchased those low value cards from you.
IF YOU NEED TO PROTECT YOUR $20.00 JUST SEND ME BACK THE FRIGGIN $20.00 TO MY PAYPAL ACCOUNT! GEESH! >>
IMHO, it was a little insensitive I feel to have gone about this the way Shooter did. What he did as I see it was questioned the integrity of the person buying from him, which in of itself is not wrong, just the public means and demeanor he used in trying to do this. I would feel somewhat upset myself if I were in Dboneesq shoes and someone questioned my good name and reputation as a SENIOR member here with nearly 300 posts! I mean, Clayshooter --- you have been a member here since 2006 and you did not know this person? He is on nearly every meaningful post!!! Why wouldn't you check the buyer out first before saying something publicly or insinuating that you might get burnt buy this person? That is where I feel you went wrong. I am not judging what you did, only trying to express how I see it. Ans as a part of this community, I feel I have a responsibility to say what I see and to try and make this a better place for all of us!
Best wishes,
EARL >>
I'm not sure I agree. First of all, Clayshooter did not know that Dboneesq posted here, and after reading this thread, other than calling him "this guy" and questioning feedback concerns, really did not say anything to offensive against Dboneesq. He mostly questioned Paypal/USPS "label addressing issues" that invalidate "Paypal protection". Again I'm sure he was clueless about Dboneesq, and just asked for help here from others (asked if anyone knew the buyer, Dboneesq), no big deal, right?
Just shipout the card and let this thread die a swift death (unlike Tim "stubby")
rd
clayshooter22, sounds like he is an ok seller, and Dboneesq is ok too. I'm sure, now that clayshooter knows that Dboneesq is ok, the $20 item will be shipped correctly (to: 156 Richie Court or 156 Richie Court N.)...
Quicksilver Messenger Service - Smokestack Lightning (Live) 1968
Quicksilver Messenger Service - The Hat (Live) 1971
I can also personally vouch for Doug..he's as trustworthy as they come..
Collecting 1970s Topps baseball wax, rack and cello packs, as well as PCGS graded Half Cents, Large Cents, Two Cent pieces and Three Cent Silver pieces.
<< <i>You're actually starting a thread to ask about "St. James" vs "Saint James?" About a $20 item? From an established buyer? Are you serious?
I can also personally vouch for Doug..he's as trustworthy as they come.. >>
Grote ... he did use a different house number ... correct street, city and state though! LOL
Doug
Liquidating my collection for the 3rd and final time. Time for others to enjoy what I have enjoyed over the last several decades. Money could be put to better use.
<< <i>Anybody run into this one:
Guy sends money and confirmed address is:
156 Richie Court
St. James, NY
Paypal will not let me print label because they say that the USPS "reccommended" address is:
156 Richie CT N
Saint James, NY
I call and they will not offer buyer protection unless he changes address, which he has said he will not do????
Anybody know user dboneesq?
I know if I edit address I have 0% chance of keeping my money in a chargeback and I've not done business with this guy so unsure about the risk. He claims 7000 transactions but I never can tell.
Anybody know how to get around this. I called Paypal and they said only fix is to get him to change......thanks for the help paypal.
Mike >>
You must be really hard up to this worked up over a $20.00 card.
BUT............
To Date...... I have not found one documented case that can be confirmed to show
that any seller who followed the PP-UA exactly has lost an INR-claim on appeal, if
the item was shown online to be delivered.
There are MANY confirmed cases of sellers being ripped-off by fraudulent SNAD-claims.
...........
PayPal works best AWAY FROM EBAY.
There is no seller/buyer protection nonsense. Sellers simply prove delivery, and that
is the end of the transaction.
The "Buyer Complaint Policy" does not render decisions on SNADs. Crooked buyers
must use their credit-card companies to try for the rip; most will not risk it. If they
do, sophisticated sellers are guaranteed a fair-shake once they get cc-security into
the mix.
http://zip4.usps.com/zip4/welcome.jsp
I don't know doug. He's never bought or sold anything with me and so I posted to see if anyone has transacted with him. I don't assume anyone is a crook and if you took it that way; not only are you wrong, but don't make it out like I'm the bad guy. I'm the one at risk. If it's $2 or $2000, I'm at risk. I play by the rules so we are both protected. Paypal is widely accepted as the best alternative for buyers and sellers because there are BOTH buyer and seller protections.
On the flipside, if I told you send cash only and you had no way to assure you'd get a thing from me as a seller would you take that chance? That's the position you've put me in by not having a confirmed AND proper USPS address.
I run into this about once a year after about 1000 trabsactions a year so not a big deal but this is the first time someone told me to pound sand when I asked them to update their addy.
Doug, I told you paypal would not offer seller protection unless you changed your address to the recm USPS addy. Why not change? No matter how many transactions you have. None of the sellers who you have bought from have had the benefit of seller's protection if they use paypal shipping, so says paypal. I spent the better part of 30 minutes with them to see if they could bypass so you wouldn't have to change your addy, to no avail.
I've had countless transactions with board members, even sending stuff for free so let's not pile on me.
I'll ship it out Monday.
Kirby Puckett Master Set
<< <i>It happens.
I just fill out the DC-ticket like PP demands, and address the package like the buyer demands.
It's not a perfect solution, but the online-DC only shows the zip-code. As long as the zip is the
one PP demands, I don't see a problem. (And, of course, I don't use PP shipping labels.)
BUT, nobody has ever burned me on it so I have not "tested" the theory.
If you feel spooky, use signature confirmation. >>
Storm, This only works if you go to the post office; something I never do. Paypal will only let you print the label with the USPS rec addy....then there is no seller protection as you are technically not sending to the exact confirmed addy.
Kirby Puckett Master Set
<< <i>1374 feedback score (2485 in total), at 100% (which you obviously saw) would have been enough for me to not worry about a $20 item, let alone waste 30 minutes of my time on the phone with paypal. >>
Nam, Did you make an assumption about his eBay ID. I didn't. Are you sure that his user ID here and Paypal ID match?
Kirby Puckett Master Set
<< <i>1374 feedback score (2485 in total), at 100% (which you obviously saw) would have been enough for me to not worry about a $20 item, let alone waste 30 minutes of my time on the phone with paypal. >>
EXACTLY!
This is the sort of stuff that really makes me wonder. Is this the sort of thing that people stress out about? Are these the same people that call the grocery store to make sure they have a sale item in stock even though they have 50 other items on their shopping list?
Sorry if it sounds critical, but I really don't understand most of the PayPal and eBay concerns that get posted here.
My Registry Sets
Nam, Did you make an assumption about his eBay ID. I didn't. Are you sure that his user ID here and Paypal ID match?
But you knew his ebay ID when he won the auction, didn't you? Are you saying that he won your auction under an ID diffrent from "dboneesq"?
Collecting 1970s Topps baseball wax, rack and cello packs, as well as PCGS graded Half Cents, Large Cents, Two Cent pieces and Three Cent Silver pieces.
Also, why did the seller not know the buyer's feedback? Look who won the auction and then check the winner's feedback. I am sure it says 100%, so what is the problem of finding that out unless its a private ID??? A buyer has so much leverage towards a seller, so even 100% feedback buyer does not mean the transaction will go the way the seller wants.
The seller did not know the buyer was a respected community member here, so now he knows. Let us move on.
BST: Tennessebanker, Downtown1974, LarkinCollector, nendee
Steve
<< <i> he did use a different house number ... correct street, city and state though >>
Doug, I will be knocking on every door on Richie Ct today. Beers and football at your place today....Right?
<< <i>First off, the comment was about paypal.
I don't know doug. He's never bought or sold anything with me and so I posted to see if anyone has transacted with him. I don't assume anyone is a crook and if you took it that way; not only are you wrong, but don't make it out like I'm the bad guy. I'm the one at risk. If it's $2 or $2000, I'm at risk. I play by the rules so we are both protected. Paypal is widely accepted as the best alternative for buyers and sellers because there are BOTH buyer and seller protections.
On the flipside, if I told you send cash only and you had no way to assure you'd get a thing from me as a seller would you take that chance? That's the position you've put me in by not having a confirmed AND proper USPS address.
I run into this about once a year after about 1000 trabsactions a year so not a big deal but this is the first time someone told me to pound sand when I asked them to update their addy.
Doug, I told you paypal would not offer seller protection unless you changed your address to the recm USPS addy. Why not change? No matter how many transactions you have. None of the sellers who you have bought from have had the benefit of seller's protection if they use paypal shipping, so says paypal. I spent the better part of 30 minutes with them to see if they could bypass so you wouldn't have to change your addy, to no avail.
I've had countless transactions with board members, even sending stuff for free so let's not pile on me.
I'll ship it out Monday. >>
First off, if you asked me to send $20 cash I would have. If it were a $200 transaction I would NOT.
SECOND, Here is your PM to me: Doug, getting this error when I print a shipping label from paypal site. I tried to manually change the address but it then said I'm not able to use paypal's seller protections. Please edit street address so it matches USPS suggestion so I can ship. Sorry about the hold up.
Mike
THIRD, Here is my response: Mike, Not sure why it is not working. However, I have in excess of 2,500 ebay transactions over the last 7 years, most of which involved PayPal and there were no problems. The address is correct as is.
Happy New Year!
Doug
SOOOO, does this sound like I told you "TO POUND SAND"? Telling you my addy is correct and to have a Happy New Year? My concern is that if I changed it maybe the same error would come up with other sellers. After all, it NEVER came up in the past 2,500 transactions. I thought the sellers were protected in the past, as I have purchased cards in excess of $1,000.00 MANY TIMES!
MIKE, NOT HERE TO HAVE A PISSING MATCH. Just thought this could have been resolved in a different manner.
As I said to you before .... HAPPY NEW YEAR!
Doug
Liquidating my collection for the 3rd and final time. Time for others to enjoy what I have enjoyed over the last several decades. Money could be put to better use.
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<< <i> he did use a different house number ... correct street, city and state though >>
Doug, I will be knocking on every door on Richie Ct today. Beers and football at your place today....Right?
Miller ... where DA HELL YA BEEN? I went out and bought an extra keg 'cause I thought you were coming with DA BOYZ!!!! LMAO
HAPPY NEW YEAR! LET'S GO GIANTS!
Doug
Liquidating my collection for the 3rd and final time. Time for others to enjoy what I have enjoyed over the last several decades. Money could be put to better use.
<< <i><< 1374 feedback score (2485 in total), at 100% (which you obviously saw) would have been enough for me to not worry about a $20 item, let alone waste 30 minutes of my time on the phone with paypal. >>
Nam, Did you make an assumption about his eBay ID. I didn't. Are you sure that his user ID here and Paypal ID match?
But you knew his ebay ID when he won the auction, didn't you? Are you saying that he won your auction under an ID diffrent from "dboneesq"? >>
Grote, not an ebay listing...transaction was through PSA buy/sale board. See where I'm coming from now?
Kirby Puckett Master Set
<< <i>What I'm saying is that if I had the reservations you obviously did, a simple check of his feedback would have put me at ease over such a small amount of money. You could have saved 30 minutes of your life (and some aggravation) which hopefully is worth more to you than the $20 you would have lost if this eBayer would have gone totally against what his solid feedback rating clearly shows and tried to screw you. >>
Nam,
I can't check his feedback....not an eBay transaction. I can't even verify his eBay ID.
Kirby Puckett Master Set
<< <i>transaction was through PSA buy/sale board. See where I'm coming from now? >>
Well, that is a horse of a different color.
The buyer protection in non-eBay realted sales is much more limited that it is during eBay realted transactions. Given these details, I doubt that I would've worried too much about a "N" on the street addy. But that's just me.
<< <i>I can't check his feedback....not an eBay transaction. I can't even verify his eBay ID. >>
Mike,
You have your money ... you sent me the cards ... I will let you know when they arrive ... after you see that I'm someone you can trust, hopefully we can have amicable transactions in the future. This is not really something to get crazy over. Read my signature line and you will know where I am coming from.
HAPPY NEW YEAR!
Doug
Liquidating my collection for the 3rd and final time. Time for others to enjoy what I have enjoyed over the last several decades. Money could be put to better use.
<< <i>Will the keg be cold for the Giants/Eagles game next week? I'd love for the Vikings to win today (we'd get Arizona), but I think the Eagles are on a roll. Will be tough beating McNabb/Westbrook and the crew even if it in our building. >>
THAT KEG WILL BE READY FOR NEXT WEEK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
LET'S GO GIANTS!
Yes, I too would like to see Minny win today, as I think AZ would be a MUCH easier team to play than Philly!
Doug
Liquidating my collection for the 3rd and final time. Time for others to enjoy what I have enjoyed over the last several decades. Money could be put to better use.
Happy New Year to all. Most of all, Good Health to everyone.
BST: Tennessebanker, Downtown1974, LarkinCollector, nendee
It would have been helpful if you had indicated that fact up front...even Storm thought it was an ebay transaction...
Happy new year to all as well!@!
Collecting 1970s Topps baseball wax, rack and cello packs, as well as PCGS graded Half Cents, Large Cents, Two Cent pieces and Three Cent Silver pieces.
Steve