I'm really intrigued with the $5 1815.....what an AMAZING RARITY!!
It seems to be quite unappreciated...no threads on this incredible rarity...12 known, mintage 635!! I handled one at the Smithsonian but for the life of me I don't remember what it graded amongst us. We were passing so many Capped Bust gold pieces around you would have thought these rarest of rare coins were COMMON!
<< <i>I'm really intrigued with the $5 1815.....what an AMAZING RARITY!!
It seems to be quite unappreciated...no threads on this incredible rarity...12 known, mintage 635!! I handled one at the Smithsonian but for the life of me I don't remember what it graded amongst us. We were passing so many Capped Bust gold pieces around you would have thought these rarest of rare coins were COMMON! >>
I can't corner the stock market and read every thread. Seems there's some debate on the grade. It sure looks nice to me but the one I saw in DC was a stunning Gem+!!
FWIW those old catalogues were so innacurate with those verbal grades. The Eliasberg 1921 Saint was graded AU58 yet is actually an MS65 now and every bit the grade.
Edit: The coins that I am tracking at Heritage are not looking so strong at this point, with a few exceptions. I think that the volume of patterns and the overall quality will lead to some er, bargains.
The higher priced items that I have my eye on have a loooong way to go IMO, especially for the '16, which is a specific coin that Heritage has sold 2 times before in the past few years, for $100k and then $75k.. wonder what's next?
Not a 63 and typical SLQ Overgrading, sorry, "Market Grading" of key dates... , but a 27-S is super duper rare with a full noggin... Even with the glaring issues I would have expected to see this guy past $9,500 by now.
I still see no end in sight to the strength in the high end of the coin market, for quality stuff that's a cut or two above most of the rest. At this point it's a runaway train and I'm not sure anything can stop it short of absolute economic meltdown.
The only stuff that is likely to plummet in the months ahead is the average recycled schlock that's not particularly PQ or high-quality for the grade. But this is nothing new. Bifurcation marches on.
<< <i>I still see no end in sight to the strength in the high end of the coin market............ >>
How do you see the market for coins that middle class collectors can actually afford to buy?
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Kind of a hokey lookin portrayal of Ms Liberty on that coin if you ask me. I'm sure the coin is desireable to some/many , but that image on the obverse does not provoke me to want to own it.
Haven't seen eBay flooded with Heritage lots yet. Are they done with eBay???? That would be good as I wouldn't miss their keyword spamming w/ PCGS and NGC in every title as they list the populations, but it would also be bad as I sometimes found lots in eBay searches which are much easier than the Heritage search... Did I miss the Memo??
<< <i>I still see no end in sight to the strength in the high end of the coin market............ >>
How do you see the market for coins that middle class collectors can actually afford to buy? >>
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<< <i>Haven't seen eBay flooded with Heritage lots yet. Are they done with eBay???? That would be good as I wouldn't miss their keyword spamming w/ PCGS and NGC in every title as they list the populations, but it would also be bad as I sometimes found lots in eBay searches which are much easier than the Heritage search... Did I miss the Memo?? >>
Most everything on my watch list has shown fairly strong bids for at least a week now, with a number of bidders. Did not attend the Bowers sale yesterday, but looking over the results this morning, seems like a lot of unsold lots (CAC stickered as well), possibly the result of very high reserves??
<< <i>How do you see the market for coins that middle class collectors can actually afford to buy? >>
For the most part, I'm seeing little to no evidence that the higher-quality ones are dropping much, if at all.
I'd like to be wrong about that eventually since there's a lot of stuff I've been priced out of. But I'm not seeing a trend toward quality getting cheaper in much of anything that's not a widget and (say) three figures and higher.
Based on my bids and tracked items, I agree the Heritage auction looks plenty healthy. I don't know much about the Morgan dollar market, but some of the really rare and expensive ones in the auction seem really low to me.
<< <i>I still see no end in sight to the strength in the high end of the coin market............ >>
How do you see the market for coins that middle class collectors can actually afford to buy? >>
The fact that no one is answering this question tells me volumes.
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Actually, this is not entirely a humorous post. Some of my (reasonable) bids have been outbid, but I am currently the high bidder on others.
It seems to be quite unappreciated...no threads on this incredible rarity...12 known, mintage 635!! I handled one at the Smithsonian but for the life of me I don't remember what it graded amongst us. We were passing so many Capped Bust gold pieces around you would have thought these rarest of rare coins were COMMON!
ONE TRULY GORGEOUS RARITY!!
<< <i>I'm really intrigued with the $5 1815.....what an AMAZING RARITY!!
It seems to be quite unappreciated...no threads on this incredible rarity...12 known, mintage 635!! I handled one at the Smithsonian but for the life of me I don't remember what it graded amongst us. We were passing so many Capped Bust gold pieces around you would have thought these rarest of rare coins were COMMON!
No threads on the 1815 half eagle? SG, you've been taking too many meds!
An authorized PCGS dealer, and a contributor to the Red Book.
a couple took giant jumps when reserve was released
I'd have to agree- doesn't look MS64
I can't corner the stock market and read every thread. Seems there's some debate on the grade. It sure looks nice to me but the one I saw in DC was a stunning Gem+!!
FWIW those old catalogues were so innacurate with those verbal grades. The Eliasberg 1921 Saint was graded AU58 yet is actually an MS65 now and every bit the grade.
<< <i>Nothing good will go cheap. >>
Nothing cheap will go good.
Edit: The coins that I am tracking at Heritage are not looking so strong at this point, with a few exceptions. I think that the volume of patterns and the overall quality will lead to some er, bargains.
Camelot
http://coins.ha.com/common/view_item.php?Sale_No=1121&Lot_No=3801
This is cheap as it should be, FH my tuckus...
http://coins.ha.com/common/view_item.php?Sale_No=1121&Lot_No=3807
This is scarce...
http://coins.ha.com/common/view_item.php?Sale_No=1121&Lot_No=3806
Not a 63 and typical SLQ Overgrading, sorry, "Market Grading" of key dates... , but a 27-S is super duper rare with a full noggin... Even with the glaring issues I would have expected to see this guy past $9,500 by now.
http://coins.ha.com/common/view_item.php?Sale_No=1121&Lot_No=3825
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The only stuff that is likely to plummet in the months ahead is the average recycled schlock that's not particularly PQ or high-quality for the grade. But this is nothing new. Bifurcation marches on.
<< <i>I still see no end in sight to the strength in the high end of the coin market............ >>
How do you see the market for coins that middle class collectors can actually afford to buy?
Worry is the interest you pay on a debt you may not owe.
"Paper money eventually returns to its intrinsic value---zero."----Voltaire
"Everything you say should be true, but not everything true should be said."----Voltaire
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<< <i>I still see no end in sight to the strength in the high end of the coin market............ >>
How do you see the market for coins that middle class collectors can actually afford to buy? >>
Worry is the interest you pay on a debt you may not owe.
"Paper money eventually returns to its intrinsic value---zero."----Voltaire
"Everything you say should be true, but not everything true should be said."----Voltaire
<< <i>Haven't seen eBay flooded with Heritage lots yet. Are they done with eBay???? That would be good as I wouldn't miss their keyword spamming w/ PCGS and NGC in every title as they list the populations, but it would also be bad as I sometimes found lots in eBay searches which are much easier than the Heritage search... Did I miss the Memo?? >>
Ebay ended live auctions effective 12/31/08.
john
<< <i>How do you see the market for coins that middle class collectors can actually afford to buy? >>
For the most part, I'm seeing little to no evidence that the higher-quality ones are dropping much, if at all.
I'd like to be wrong about that eventually since there's a lot of stuff I've been priced out of. But I'm not seeing a trend toward quality getting cheaper in much of anything that's not a widget and (say) three figures and higher.
<< <i>There is a whole lot of garbage in the Bust Halves. >>
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Buying top quality Seated Dimes in Gem BU and Proof.
Buying great coins - monster eye appeal only.
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<< <i>I still see no end in sight to the strength in the high end of the coin market............ >>
How do you see the market for coins that middle class collectors can actually afford to buy? >>
The fact that no one is answering this question tells me volumes.
Worry is the interest you pay on a debt you may not owe.
"Paper money eventually returns to its intrinsic value---zero."----Voltaire
"Everything you say should be true, but not everything true should be said."----Voltaire