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Shake-n-Bake or Not ?????

SandhawkSandhawk Posts: 1,154 ✭✭✭
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Your thoughts................. Shake - n - Bake

I wonder why it is slabbed by Specialty Coin Grading and not PCGS or NGC??

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  • DRUNNERDRUNNER Posts: 3,884 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I would love that to be 'real', but . . . .

    Interesting coin. Some amazingly vibrant colors, but I would not be willing to purchase this coin as a toning premium.

    I'm sure many more will chime in on why this toning pattern is a bit off the wall . . .

    Drunner
  • CarlWohlforthCarlWohlforth Posts: 11,074 ✭
    I would guess that %90 of the old timers here will say it is AT. Sure does look that way to me. The photo also looks juiced. The circular blue on both sides is just wrong. The wild magenta is an interesting color and it settles into the base while the blue covers the high points with the tops of the lettering and stars untoned in some cases so it is an interesting job.

    I'd probably be willing to pay AU money. If I got it I'd strip and dip it then put it between a napkin for a few years... yeah, it just isn't doing it for me...
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  • nicetoning42107nicetoning42107 Posts: 1,162
    Blatant AT. Purple is way too vibrant. Color floats.
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  • darktonedarktone Posts: 8,437 ✭✭✭
    And it's got 10 bids. image
  • thisnamztakenthisnamztaken Posts: 4,101 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I wouldn't pay a premium for its toning either, but I think it could be NT. Many of his other coins are almost as vividly toned, but they are in top tier slabs. I'm not a fan of neon toning anyway, so it's a no brainer decision for me. image
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  • PlacidPlacid Posts: 11,299 ✭✭✭
    Looks a lot like other coins he has sold in the past. Maybe he found a hoard of them image

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  • lcoopielcoopie Posts: 8,873 ✭✭✭✭✭
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  • rld14rld14 Posts: 2,390 ✭✭✭
    Imagine finding that, on eBay of all places, and in a BSGS slab to boot!
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  • ShortgapbobShortgapbob Posts: 2,332 ✭✭✭
    Unfortunately, it is already bringing way too much money. Blatant AT.
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  • TreemanTreeman Posts: 419 ✭✭✭
    "Many of his other coins are almost as vividly toned, but they are in top tier slabs"

    Ahh, yes, we know that PCGS and NGC NEVER slabbed any doctored coins... right?
  • ClosedLoopClosedLoop Posts: 1,077 ✭✭✭


    << <i>Imagine finding that, on eBay of all places, and in a BSGS slab to boot! >>



    what does BSGS stand for.....image
    figglehorn
  • MORGANHUNTER2MORGANHUNTER2 Posts: 4,473 ✭


    << <i>

    << <i>Imagine finding that, on eBay of all places, and in a BSGS slab to boot! >>



    what does BSGS stand for.....image >>



    You have to ask....
  • robkoolrobkool Posts: 5,934 ✭✭✭✭✭
    At least, this seller has got some other kool coins tho...
    Ebay items for sale Current BIN's / The Kingdom Collection
  • DJCoinzDJCoinz Posts: 3,856 ✭


    << <i>or Not ????? >>

    Not a chance.
    aka Dan
  • ChrisRxChrisRx Posts: 5,619 ✭✭✭✭
    It has that "fast toning" look to it via applying chemicals and/or using heat. I would not pay more than melt for this.
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  • BigMoneyLewisBigMoneyLewis Posts: 194 ✭
    It looks like heat and or chemicals were used on that coin for sure.
    A good example of what not to waste your money on .
    No way a Morgan should look like that if properly stored.
    Before the shake and bake it was a $ 30 MS62 coin ,
    but it's still worth about $ 15 in my book even with the post mint damage.
    It's over graded a few points , and the pic is juiced .
    It's been reduced to just being a colorful piece of junk silver now.

    Lewis





  • Steve27Steve27 Posts: 13,275 ✭✭✭
    To me it's so obvious I just laughed when I saw the pics.
    "It's far easier to fight for principles, than to live up to them." Adlai Stevenson
  • YaHaYaHa Posts: 4,220 ✭
    Maybe there's a Leprechan inside also.image
  • BikingnutBikingnut Posts: 3,390 ✭✭✭
    The slab that it's housed in, speaks volumes.

    Dennis
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  • braddickbraddick Posts: 24,442 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>The slab that it's housed in, speaks volumes.

    Dennis >>

    The coin that is housed in the slab speaks volumes.

    peacockcoins

  • ManorcourtmanManorcourtman Posts: 8,123 ✭✭✭✭✭
    AT? Is the Pope catholic....
  • BAJJERFANBAJJERFAN Posts: 31,187 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>

    << <i>Imagine finding that, on eBay of all places, and in a BSGS slab to boot! >>



    what does BSGS stand for.....image >>



    You have to ask.... >>



    Bull Chit Grading Service.

    I'm not sure I'd dip that without knowing the source of the toning, but since its a common date wijjit, the worstest that kin happen is ya sell it fer melt.
    theknowitalltroll;
  • CoinosaurusCoinosaurus Posts: 9,637 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Shaken, baken, collectors gets taken.
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  • leothelyonleothelyon Posts: 8,475 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Suddenly..........I'm hungry for some oven baked chicken! image


    Leo

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  • garsmithgarsmith Posts: 5,894 ✭✭
    Doesn't look shacked but definitely baked
  • lcoopielcoopie Posts: 8,873 ✭✭✭✭✭
    there seems to be more money in cooking coins
    than food
    LCoopie = Les
  • carscars Posts: 1,904
    What's the differance in AT & NT? Some can't tell the differance and the end result is similair. Big deal how it got that way, They're all ugly anyhow imo. Why pay a premium for toning, Does it ever stop? It'll never stay the same color, will it? I just don't get it. Wrapping a coin with a napkin and letting it sit is AT as well, Coin didn't walk over to that napkin and wrap itself up.
    Its all relative
  • rld14rld14 Posts: 2,390 ✭✭✭


    << <i>What's the differance in AT & NT? Some can't tell the differance and the end result is similair. Big deal how it got that way, They're all ugly anyhow imo. Why pay a premium for toning, Does it ever stop? It'll never stay the same color, will it? I just don't get it. Wrapping a coin with a napkin and letting it sit is AT as well, Coin didn't walk over to that napkin and wrap itself up. >>



    Speak for yourself, some of these Morgans are really quite clever little buggers. I have a heck of a time keeping them out of the ice cream.
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  • lsicalsica Posts: 1,610 ✭✭✭✭
    Color progression on this is "wrong". Plus the photo is juiced
    Philately will get you nowhere....
  • lsicalsica Posts: 1,610 ✭✭✭✭
    This second dollar may actually be NT... BUT

    1) Photo is juiced big time
    2) Aint no 66 no way
    Philately will get you nowhere....
  • lope208lope208 Posts: 1,960 ✭✭
    It is sad yet not shocking to see people who bid on this junk. You can't really blame the doctor though.
    When they see coins like this one (from the same seller) in a PCGS slab...well, this one's probably NT, but still...
    they see people pay BIG toning premiums all the time and figure, what the heck?

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  • anablepanablep Posts: 5,157 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I'm calling Bravo Sierra on those Morgans.










    No way are they MS66.













    Gotta be at least 68s...


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    BTW: the second one might be NT. Has a nice look to it, but the image is way over saturated...
    Always looking for attractive rim toned Morgan and Peace dollars in PCGS or (older) ANA/ANACS holders!

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