Itty bitty copper from NEN

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It's been a while since I've done any larger Darkside purchases, but reading Hussulo's thread about fractional farthings made me think about them again. So I wandered over to NEN and saw that a quarter farthing I had noticed a month ago was now on negotiable status.

I just couldn't stay away. *sigh*

It's only a 1-point upgrade over the one I currently have, but it has more lustre than mine.

So I ended up with this one for just a bit below Krause UNC.

NGC MS64 BN

Doogy

great overall look to that one! toning, luster, relatively free of marks, it has it all! nice catch

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And about the size of an aspirin!

lordmarcovan

They're cointagious!

I'm not sure what I think about the new NGC insert in this case. On the one hand, those giant prongs seem like big, evil fingers stabbing the coin, but on the other hand, it's probably an improvement over all that white plastic swallowing the poor tiny thing up completely, as would have been the case with the old inserts. I guess they're better. How funny that the Presidential dollars, of all things, would make the TPGs wake up to the "third side" of coins, and how some folks might want to be able to see them.

I think a clear plastic insert with the prongs like that would look a little bit better than the white, but I guess they're moving in the right direction. Since I understand that NGC will start grading ancients in January (?) and I have some to submit, I wonder how those prongs will do on a coin that is less than perfectly round.

Anyway, back to the topic at hand, that little 1/16d of yours has a really nice look. Those are the kind of BN coins you gotta love.

crito

Itty-bitty copper is cool

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<< <i>I'm not sure what I think about the new NGC insert in this case. On the one hand, those giant prongs seem like big, evil fingers stabbing the coin, but on the other hand, it's probably an improvement over all that white plastic swallowing the poor tiny thing up completely, as would have been the case with the old inserts. I guess they're better. How funny that the Presidential dollars, of all things, would make the TPGs wake up to the "third side" of coins, and how some folks might want to be able to see them. >>



The ONLY advantage I see for small coins is that you no longer have the possibility of the coin being angled down into the well at a 30-degree angle, thus destroying presentation (I have a few of those).

I'm not a fan of the new holder at all. The above coin isn't too bad, but I've seen pictures where the prongs, instead of simply butting against the edge, actually overlap the edge by 1/16 - 1/8 of an inch! It all depends on NGC's quality control.

The one below is an EPIC FAIL.

lordmarcovan

Actually, I have an itty-bitty little squarish copper I got from you, Dan. I need to scan it with some of that other stuff. It's a little German States piece. Whazzit... umm... Bremen, I guess...

newsman

I totally hate those new holders. The folks at NGC need to put their heads together and figure out how to make them out of transparent or translucent material like PCGS does. I don't understand why they don't see the need to do that.

Edited to add: Now that I see the image I can at least give them credit for trying....

ajaan

No see image do I.

crito

<< <i>No see image do I. >>

Hussulo

I can't see the images either, and I would really like to.



Once my 1/3 farthing set is complete I am moving onto 1/4's and 1/2's.

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Copied the pics to my own server and relinked...

Hussulo

Lovely coin, it looks like you got a bargain. I'm glad there aren't many fractional collectors.

The prices compared to the mintage's are pretty good.

Maybe we should stop showing them or we may have competition.

lordmarcovan

Hoo boy, that one with the prongs hangin' over the coin really IS an epic failure. Yuck.

Rickc300

Did someone mention Bremen? I might be interested in a little square copper thingy from there. Take a looky over yonder.
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Rick

lordmarcovan

I'll try to find it.

Rickc300

Forgot to mention! Those new holders BLOW! I got one a few days ago holding a Canadian 1919 5 cent piece and not only do the "claws" hang over the coin but the coin is rotated about 30 degrees or so...

Rick

lordmarcovan

Nope, not Bremen.

A 1745 Augsburg heller. KM150, I believe.

Squarish, but technically octagonal, like a square with the corners lopped off. Cute little thing.

Do you remember it, Dan?

'Cause I sure didn't remember a lot of these 1600s and 1700s pieces I bought from you in a big lot a while back. Since you shipped 'em in unmarked flips, I mixed 'em into my boxes and never got around to re-attributing them. I still turn up some interesting pieces when I paw through the boxes, 'cause there are still a few from that great lot that I never got around to attributing-grading-pricing-selling.

Rickc300

<< <i>A 1745 Augsburg heller. KM150, I believe. >>

I like the Krause pics. If yours is like the pic, let me know because I want it! I will trade something or buy it outright. Let me know... (PS-PM me about the possible future lot(s) of bulk foreign coming up)... I am interested in trading for, or purchasing a bunch!
Thanks,
Rick

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<< <i>Nope, not Bremen.

A 1745 Augsburg heller. KM150, I believe.

Squarish, but technically octagonal, like a square with the corners lopped off. Cute little thing.

Do you remember it, Dan?

'Cause I sure didn't remember a lot of these 1600s and 1700s pieces I bought from you in a big lot a while back. Since you shipped 'em in unmarked flips, I mixed 'em into my boxes and never got around to re-attributing them. I still turn up some interesting pieces when I paw through the boxes, 'cause there are still a few from that great lot that I never got around to attributing-grading-pricing-selling. >>



Ergf. My memory isn't what it used to be. Who are you again?

Was that the one with a pine cone on the front? I vaguely remember it, but not where it was from.

AuldFartte

That's a beauty, Dan! I love the color

lordmarcovan

<< <i>Was that the one with a pine cone on the front? I vaguely remember it, but not where it was from. >>

Yep, that's the one. I too had forgotten where it was from, and had to resort to the Krause Instant Identifier pages.

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I think that quarter farthing looks mighty nice in the new NGC prong holder. Much better looking than the old holders where fractional farthings were just lost in the coin hole.

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<< <i>Once my 1/3 farthing set is complete I am moving onto 1/4's and 1/2's. >>



Addictive, aren't they?

I plan to send all my U.S. half cents (my current numismatic focus) along with my fractional farthings
to Brandon for imaging after the new year. He's doing a large batch of random stuff for me right now
after having shot ~80 Canadian dollar toners for me last month. My current camera equipment/ability
just doesn't capture the amount of detail I need it to, and I don't have the time to learn and experiment
right now. It's sufficient for selling stuff on eBay, but not for permanent archival of my keepers.

I have an 1854 1/2 farthing in NGC MS66 BN that has absolutely gorgeous surfaces. A NEN purchase.

And then there's this piece that I had Mark Goodman image for me earlier this year (another NEN purchase).

(sorry, I just HAVE to trot out this image every now and then... )

lordmarcovan

<< <i>sorry, I just HAVE to trot out this image every now and then... >>



I can see why. It's so purdy I wouldn't dare make any snarky commentary about how bloody huge it is.

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The quarter farthing arrived today. LOVE IT! NEN's pictures understate the color and lustre. It's much nicer in hand.

Here are some quick pix; they still don't do the coin justice, but you get the idea: