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There's a lot going on with this one spiked chin, fish lips, cracked skull, bubbles, people behind pillars and more.

Need some help on this one, can you find any others?

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  • adamlaneusadamlaneus Posts: 6,969 ✭✭✭
    I have a high voltage power supply that can chew holes like that. I have managed not to electrocute myself much.

  • post mint damage.

    Some pieces that get caught in snowbanks amongst lots of rocksalt wind up looking like this.
  • I might agree with you if it was not for some of the raised errors like on the chin and the doubling behind the pillars.
  • I figured it out, "Haints."

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  • looks funky with the Leno chin
  • BroadstruckBroadstruck Posts: 30,497 ✭✭✭✭✭
    PMD... Not an Error!
    To Err Is Human.... To Collect Err's Is Just Too Much Darn Tootin Fun!
  • mozeppamozeppa Posts: 4,431 ✭✭✭
    gas bubbles from improperly washed blanks before the plating process.
    not an error.
  • 19Lyds19Lyds Posts: 26,492 ✭✭✭✭


    << <i>I might agree with you if it was not for some of the raised errors like on the chin and the doubling behind the pillars. >>



    The coin could be a legitimate quadrupled die but in its current condition of PMD, its pretty much worthless.

    As for finding another one like it, who ever did whatever to that coin would be more than happy to create some "replica's" for ya! image
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  • RampageRampage Posts: 9,511 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Post mint damaged as previously stated. Sorry...
  • There is obviously some small areas of post mint damage here, but to say that it is all post mint is foolish.
    Still containing much of its red luster, I would like to see someone create or show an example of an altered coin like this from tactics such as rock salt or exposure to high voltage!

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    Odd man out much like the coin, I still believe this type of coin could only be produced by the mint, any other experts opinions?
  • RampageRampage Posts: 9,511 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>There is obviously some small areas of post mint damage here, but to say that it is all post mint is foolish.
    Still containing much of its red luster, I would like to see someone create or show an example of an altered coin like this from tactics such as rock salt or exposure to high voltage!

    image

    Odd man out much like the coin, I still believe this type of coin could only be produced by the mint, any other experts opinions? >>



    No offense, but you've had expert opinions posted in this thread. If you do not like our answers, then feel free spend a few dollars and send the coin in for authentication by additional experts to PCGS, NGC, ANACS, or ICG. Since the coin does have damage, then consider the latter two for your options.
  • mozeppamozeppa Posts: 4,431 ✭✭✭


    << <i>There's a lot going on with this one spiked chin, fish lips, cracked skull, bubbles, people behind pillars and more.

    Need some help on this one, can you find any others? >>



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    newby read the post above this one (from rampage) again.

    and when we give (not sell) you expert opinion....you doubt.

    day to day there are more world class collectors here than you could ever imagine (...and a few doofuses too)

    please ...spend your money...it will be a costly lesson learned.
  • gonzergonzer Posts: 3,051 ✭✭✭✭✭
    PMD 100%. Do the obverse marks, lips and chin, line up with the reverse damage?
  • BroadstruckBroadstruck Posts: 30,497 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>There is obviously some small areas of post mint damage here, but to say that it is all post mint is foolish.
    Still containing much of its red luster, I would like to see someone create or show an example of an altered coin like this from tactics such as rock salt or exposure to high voltage!

    image

    Odd man out much like the coin, I still believe this type of coin could only be produced by the mint, any other experts opinions? >>



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    To Err Is Human.... To Collect Err's Is Just Too Much Darn Tootin Fun!
  • Snowman24Snowman24 Posts: 468 ✭✭✭
    looks like many I find along the road where the snow and salt fly

    the combinations are endless - just look at some these poor lincolns
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    with winter approaching - maybe some will be found in your pockets
  • seanqseanq Posts: 8,728 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Copper and zinc form a dielectric couple, meaning if you have both exposed to a saline solution the zinc will rapidly corrode. Even the tiniest break in the copper plating on a modern "zincoln" will allow the core to begin to corrode. Put the coin in a wet environment or on the ground and the process will accelerate.

    That said, your coin is the result of advanced corrosion, and is not a Mint error of any sort. My advice would be to hurry up and spend it before it completely dissolves.


    Sean Reynolds
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  • MercfanMercfan Posts: 701 ✭✭
    Clever Chinese fake!

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    Lay it on the nearest railroad track and the next train along will smooth out some of those problems.

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    "Coin collecting problem"? What "coin collecting problem"?
  • 19Lyds19Lyds Posts: 26,492 ✭✭✭✭


    << <i>There is obviously some small areas of post mint damage here, but to say that it is all post mint is foolish. >>



    Send it in under mint errors then!

    Choose the $100 submission level and get it back in a day or two!

    I decided to change calling the bathroom the John and renamed it the Jim. I feel so much better saying I went to the Jim this morning.



    The name is LEE!
  • adamlaneusadamlaneus Posts: 6,969 ✭✭✭
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    I do not live in a "salt state". This is probably old news to most folks on the board.

    But wow, I had no idea that such awful cents were so common!

    Are those all zincolns? Are there any copper cents in there?

  • LALASD4LALASD4 Posts: 3,602 ✭✭✭
    I will add one count to the damaged coin column.image
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  • LotsoLuckLotsoLuck Posts: 3,786 ✭✭✭
    If you shop long enough you will eventually get the answer(s) you want.
  • astroratastrorat Posts: 9,221 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>There is obviously some small areas of post mint damage here, but to say that it is all post mint is foolish.
    Still containing much of its red luster, I would like to see someone create or show an example of an altered coin like this from tactics such as rock salt or exposure to high voltage!

    image

    Odd man out much like the coin, I still believe this type of coin could only be produced by the mint, any other experts opinions? >>



    It's post-mint damage.* You may not like the answer and have convinced yourself otherwise, but the coin is not a mint error. Since you likely do not want to hear this, send the coin to PCGS and it will come back in a body bag as damaged. Then send the coin to the NGC since you won't believe PCGS...it will come back as damaged. Fee free to repeat with ANACS and ICG...they will provide the same answer. Keep heading down the TPG food chain until somebody gives you the information you need to hear. After a couple hundred dollars in grading fees and postage charges and a few months of your time, you will end up with the same answer...it is damaged.

    OR...

    You can listen to the opinions of those on the Board...some of who deal in mint errors and even teach error classes for the ANA.

    OR...best yet...

    Do your own research on the minting process (the ANA library has great references) and try to determine where in the minting process such an error could occur.

    Lane

    *The small bubbles may be the result of an improperly plated planchet (a legitimate planchet error of minor value) or post-mint damage from heating. It is difficult to say without viewing the piece in hand.
    Numismatist Ordinaire
    See http://www.doubledimes.com for a free online reference for US twenty-cent pieces
  • GrumpyEdGrumpyEd Posts: 4,749 ✭✭✭
    It's damage.

    The zincolns do that very fast.
    When dug or found on the roadside many zincolns are dissolving but you can dig an older copper and it can still be in good shape.

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    Ed
  • renomedphysrenomedphys Posts: 3,797 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Scratch the edge of a zinc core Lincoln and place it in a jar of swimming pool acid. Wait a few days, and all that is left will be the copper plating. Entertaining, yes. Useful, no.
  • astroratastrorat Posts: 9,221 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Scratch the edge of a zinc core Lincoln and place it in a jar of swimming pool acid. Wait a few days, and all that is left will be the copper plating. Entertaining, yes. Useful, no. >>



    Interesting...what is swimming pool acid?

    Lane
    Numismatist Ordinaire
    See http://www.doubledimes.com for a free online reference for US twenty-cent pieces
  • adamlaneusadamlaneus Posts: 6,969 ✭✭✭
    Swimming pool acid can vary, but is usually "Muriatic Acid", also known as "Hydrochloric Acid".

    In school science class, we used a sharp punch to poke a small hole into the copper of a zincoln. About half an hour in the acid and you were left with just the copper shell; nothing inside!!!


  • Snowman24Snowman24 Posts: 468 ✭✭✭


    << <i>image

    I do not live in a "salt state". This is probably old news to most folks on the board.

    But wow, I had no idea that such awful cents were so common!

    Are those all zincolns? Are there any copper cents in there? >>



    the one in the middle of picture is a copper one but the snowplow got it - ugh

    maybe it can pound it back into shape
  • lordmarcovanlordmarcovan Posts: 43,687 ✭✭✭✭✭
    That's not a Lincoln cent.

    It's a bodysnatcher pod from Planet Zorgon-X, disguised as a Lincoln cent.

    But as you can see from the black holes appearing on the reverse, their cloaking device is faulty.

    I would take it out into the desert and leave it there, before it assumes its true form.

    You don't wanna be around when that happens.

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  • LotsoLuckLotsoLuck Posts: 3,786 ✭✭✭


    << <i>That's not a Lincoln cent.

    It's a bodysnatcher pod from Planet Zorgon-X, disguised as a Lincoln cent.

    But as you can see from the black holes appearing on the reverse, their cloaking device is faulty.

    I would take it out into the desert and leave it there, before it assumes its true form.

    You don't wanna be around when that happens. >>




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  • gonzergonzer Posts: 3,051 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>That's not a Lincoln cent.

    It's a bodysnatcher pod from Planet Zorgon-X, disguised as a Lincoln cent.

    But as you can see from the black holes appearing on the reverse, their cloaking device is faulty.

    I would take it out into the desert and leave it there, before it assumes its true form.

    You don't wanna be around when that happens. >>



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