CHAD PENNINGTON vs. BRETT FARVE (Who got the better deal? Jets or Dolphins?)

rbdjr1 · December 16, 2008 10:44PM

The Jets dumped Chad Pennington in favor of bringing-in Brett Farve from Green Bay.

The Dolphins picked-up Pennington as their starting QB

Brett Farve is 9-5
Chad Pennington is 9-5

Brett Farve has 3,052 yds (67.6 comp %) (Long 56 yds)
Chad Pennington has 3,216 yds. (66.8 comp %) (Long 80 yds)

Brett Farve has 21 TDs (17 interceptions)
Chad Pennington has 14 TDs (6 interceptions)

Brett Farve sacked 26 times lost 176 yds
Chad Pennington sacked 23 times lost 113 yds

Brett Farve QB rating is 86.5
Chad Pennington QB rating is 95.1

Note: Both QBs are having good years, both of their teams are 9-5, tied on top of the AFC East standings (also NE)
Note: Dolphins were 1-15 last year
Note: Farve's old team, the Packers, will not make the play-offs (but Farve & the Packers went 14-3 in 2007)
Note: Pennington was 1-7 in eight games with the Jets in 2007 (Jets were 4-12 in 2007)

Vote: Which team got the better deal? Comments appreciated!

N.Y. Jets/Farve __________

Miami Dolphins/Pennington___________

Tie____________

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My comments: To bring-in one the all-time greats as your starting QB, must be great for Jet fans and the City of New York. Plus Farve is holding his own, tied for the lead in the East, with just two games to go. Farve has helped the Jets turn around a 4-12 season in 2007

Chad Pennington has proved to fit-in well with the Dolphins "new management/coaching" game plan, he turned around his 1-7 2007 season with the Jets, in addition he has helped the Dolphins turn around a 1-15 2007, into a Division leader 9-5 in 2008.

I'm a Dolphins fan, but I vote for a: TIE (both QBs have served their new teams well!)

MPeter · December 17, 2008 2:35AM

Jets got the better deal by far! They brought in a guy who never misses a game, plays through injuries, wins MVP's, has tons of post season experience and knows how to make a play to win a game.

The Dolphins got a guy coming back from serious injury, doesn't have anywhere near the experience and has yet to prove that he can last a full season.

That's a no brainer!!

Ahmanfan · December 17, 2008 8:00AM

They have the same win/loss records, Pennington has better stats, and they have both lasted the entire season. Favre is known as a postseason choker, and Pennington is not.

Mpeter, don't be a Favre homer.

John

lawnmowerman · December 17, 2008 8:39AM

<< Favre is known as a postseason choker, and Pennington is not. >>

John, do you realize Chad has only made it to 5 playoff games and has a record of 2-3?

I don't think that is a good comparison. Especially since Favre has made it to 22 playoff games and has a record of 12-10.

Imo, the Jets got the better deal. Favre basically brought the Jets back to life. Just him going there gave the players something to play for and the fans something to root for.

Chad did not have that impact on the Dolphins.

The Dolphins are better because of Bill Parcells making them that way.

perkdog · December 17, 2008 8:44AM

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<< Favre is known as a postseason choker, and Pennington is not. >>

John, do you realize Chad has only made it to 5 playoff games and has a record of 2-3?

I don't think that is a good comparison. Especially since Favre has made it to 22 playoff games and has a record of 12-10.

Imo, the Jets got the better deal. Favre basically brought the Jets back to life. Just him going there gave the players something to play for and the fans something to root for.

Chad did not have that impact on the Dolphins.

The Dolphins are better because of Bill Parcells making them that way. >>

I have to agree with this! The Jets were going absolutely nowhere before Favre got there, speaking of Playoff records ( if you want to bring that in to play ) Favre has a ring- Pennington does not.

wolfbear · December 17, 2008 9:02AM

Would have to give the nod to the Dolphins at this point.

Favre's 2008 season

1st 4 games : 12 TD - 4 INT ... 107 passer rating
next 7 games : 8 TD - 9 INT .... 87 passer rating
last 3 games : 1 TD - 4 INT .... 61 passer rating

He's had a HOF career, but I fear it looks like the old boy is running out of gas.

On the other hand, Pennington at 3+ years younger has remained consistent throughout the entire season ...

mickeymantle24 · December 17, 2008 9:52AM

I would take Pennington over farve any day,

Farve is overrated

MeteoriteGuy · December 17, 2008 10:16AM

Dolphins got the better deal. From worst in the NFL to contender, that is a pretty big jump.

MeteoriteGuy · December 17, 2008 10:17AM

Jets got the best property deal. They likely sold more Favre jerseys the first day, then Miami will sell of Pennington in two years.

Goot · December 17, 2008 10:47AM

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I have to agree with this! The Jets were going absolutely nowhere before Favre got there, speaking of Playoff records ( if you want to bring that in to play ) Favre has a ring- Pennington does not. >>

And the Dolphins were going somewhere?

lawnmowerman · December 17, 2008 12:36PM

How about this, take Chad Pennington and put him on Detroit. Do you think Chad will lift his teamates to a higher level of play like Favre did with the Jets?

Don't think so and it's not even debatable in my mind.

Brett brings more than just a great arm. He brings leadership and the quality of bringing the best out of his teamates. Look at Green bay. Compare their record from last year with this years. Now, tell me what is different on the team besides Favre?

The Dolphins are not where they are because of Chad Pennington. Credit goes to Parcells and his knack for getting what his teams need, and the coaching staff.

Don't get me wrong, Chad is not a complete hack but he sure is no Brett Favre.

Goot · December 17, 2008 12:37PM

<< How about this, take Chad Pennington and put him on Detroit. Do you think Chad will lift his teamates to a higher level of play like Favre did with the Jets?

Don't think so and it's not even debatable in my mind.

Brett brings more than just a great arm. He brings leadership and the quality of bringing the best out of his teamates. Look at Green bay. Compare their record from last year with this years. Now, tell me what is different on the team besides Favre?

The Dolphins are not where they are because of Chad Pennington. Credit goes to Parcells and his knack for getting what his teams need, and the coaching staff.

Don't get me wrong, Chad is not a complete hack but he sure is no Brett Favre. >>

I didn't vote for either. I just found it funny that he mentioned that the Jets were going nowhere, while the Dolphins barely won a game last year.

lawnmowerman · December 17, 2008 12:39PM

<< 

<< How about this, take Chad Pennington and put him on Detroit. Do you think Chad will lift his teamates to a higher level of play like Favre did with the Jets?

Don't think so and it's not even debatable in my mind.

Brett brings more than just a great arm. He brings leadership and the quality of bringing the best out of his teamates. Look at Green bay. Compare their record from last year with this years. Now, tell me what is different on the team besides Favre?

The Dolphins are not where they are because of Chad Pennington. Credit goes to Parcells and his knack for getting what his teams need, and the coaching staff.

Don't get me wrong, Chad is not a complete hack but he sure is no Brett Favre. >>

I didn't vote for either >>

I know. I was just throwing this out there. Not directed at anyone.

Ahmanfan · December 17, 2008 1:57PM

<< How about this, take Chad Pennington and put him on Detroit. Do you think Chad will lift his teamates to a higher level of play like Favre did with the Jets?

Don't think so and it's not even debatable in my mind.

Brett brings more than just a great arm. He brings leadership and the quality of bringing the best out of his teamates. Look at Green bay. Compare their record from last year with this years. Now, tell me what is different on the team besides Favre?

The Dolphins are not where they are because of Chad Pennington. Credit goes to Parcells and his knack for getting what his teams need, and the coaching staff.

Don't get me wrong, Chad is not a complete hack but he sure is no Brett Favre. >>

Green Bay has lost their best defender (Barnett), Woodson and Harris are older, Ryan Grant isn't running well, etc. Rodgers is putting up better numbers than Favre.
Maybe 10 years ago Favre was a good postseason performer, but not since '01? when he threw 6 picks in St Louis.
John

Hoopster · December 17, 2008 9:50PM

That six pick game in St. Louis was when two bounced off the receivers hands, or were their faults? Then the rest while they played catch up?

Ahmanfan · December 18, 2008 3:06AM

20 INT's in his last 10 playoff games... enjoy Jets fans.

Dave99B · December 18, 2008 3:30AM

Short term: Jets

Long term: Fish

Dave

lawnmowerman · December 18, 2008 5:44AM

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Green Bay has lost their best defender (Barnett), Woodson and Harris are older, Ryan Grant isn't running well, etc. Rodgers is putting up better numbers than Favre.
Maybe 10 years ago Favre was a good postseason performer, but not since '01? when he threw 6 picks in St Louis.
John >>

Woodson is almost on the same exact pace he was on last year as far as defensive back rankings go. He was # 35 last year and this year he is #43. Al Harris is not ranked in the top 50 this year. He was not ranked in the top 50 last year either.

As far as Grant not running well, we all know the pass sets up the run and the run sets up the pass. If team's defenses do not respect one, the other one will suffer. Who would a defense show more respect too? A first year starter like Rodgers or a hof veteran like Favre?

In this case, I think we all know the answer.

edit: I was just thinking there are so many variables to take into account when trying to figure something like this out. I still believe the Jets got it better. It's hard to go against someone like Favre. He brings so much more than just talent to his team.