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and5zacand5zac Posts: 492
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Hi,My father in law is looking to sell this coin and asked me if I could get some info to help him get the best deal. Before I post on coin forum I figured I'd see if anyone on this forum could help.What would this grade?1911 St Gaudens Double Eagle $20 gold piece imageimage..He was offered 750.00 just based on the gold content. Thanks,Lou.
Collecting Roberto Clemente and Willie Stargell cards.

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  • BunchOBullBunchOBull Posts: 6,188 ✭✭✭
    Beautiful coin...there was a detectorist in upstate New York (if I remember correctly) who found a mason jar with like 20 of those in it. It's been 2 or 3 years now, but could you image?
    Collector of most things Frank Thomas. www.BigHurtHOF.com
  • StingrayStingray Posts: 8,843 ✭✭✭
    I would find SaintGuru on the coin forum I believe he is the expert on this type of coin!!
  • 123Slider123Slider Posts: 851 ✭✭
    Going off in 20 minutes 5:00 pm EST

    Your coin on Ebay
    The best pitch to start a hitter off with is always strike one.
  • WinPitcherWinPitcher Posts: 27,726 ✭✭✭
    Looks like a mint state coin, i'd say a 63.

    Prolly worth 1,200.00

    I have no idea if 1911 is a good date I'm just thinking aloud.


    Steve
    Good for you.
  • WinPitcherWinPitcher Posts: 27,726 ✭✭✭
    EDited yet again, Is that a 1911 S? If so and if it does grade at 63 it is worth a lil more.

    Again, it has to slab to get that money. I'd show that pic over at the coin forum, guys there love to guess grades
    from pics.


    Steve
    Good for you.
  • lsutigers1973lsutigers1973 Posts: 11,093 ✭
    PSA 6

    chaz
  • dan8402dan8402 Posts: 2,163


    << <i>Going off in 20 minutes 5:00 pm EST

    Your coin on Ebay >>



    No way is the OPs coin a MS64. I would give it an AU58 or AU55. I can see rub on both liberty and the eagle. In terms of value, I would say somewhere from $1000 to $1200 depending on if it was graded of not before being sold.
  • BlackborderBlackborder Posts: 2,797 ✭
    Yup, that's an AU coin.
  • dan8402dan8402 Posts: 2,163
    I didn't see that you were offered $750 for it either. That is a blatant ripoff. The gold value alone is about $830 as of today. Melt Values
  • calaban7calaban7 Posts: 3,039 ✭✭✭✭
    It would be in your best interest to have this graded by one of the "better" grading companies. There were many counterfeits made of alot of the gold issues. In your picture , I hope that the off white and rainbow nicks , shown in your pictures , is the lighting and not the material below the surface.

    I've seen many fakes. Get it graded , if that is possible.
    " In a time of universal deceit , telling the truth is a revolutionary act " --- George Orwell
  • PoppaJPoppaJ Posts: 2,818 ✭
    Hi,

    I collect gold coins as a side hobby and thought I'd render my 2 cents on this coin.

    It's a 1911 from the Philadelphia Mint, not a 1911-S from the San Francisco Mint. The mint mark "S" would have been above the date.

    There are 3 types of 1911 St. Gaudens. Type 1: High Relief, Type 2: No Motto, Type 3: With Motto.

    Your father-in-law's coin is a type 3, the most common of the 3 types.

    Looking at your scans, I would grade this coin in the AU 50-60 area. (AU stands for Almost Uncirculated).

    I seriously wouldn't consider it to be MS (Mint State).

    Value: Raw ($875-$975) Graded by PCGS ($1000-$1300) Graded by NGC ($925-$1200)

    I, personally, wouldn't sell at this point in time. In fact, unless I had to, I would never sell any of my gold coins; they have grown in value faster than most stocks over the years.

    Here's a very interesting and informative Article that your father-in-law might want to read before selling.

    JMHO,

    PoppaJ
  • BlackborderBlackborder Posts: 2,797 ✭


    << <i>Hi,

    There are 3 types of 1911 St. Gaudens. Type 1: High Relief, Type 2: No Motto, Type 3: With Motto.

    Your father-in-law's coin is a type 3, the most common of the 3 types.

    PoppaJ >>



    Just once point to clarify. 3 Types spanning 1907-1933, not 3 types in 1911. Type 1 was 1907 only, type 2 1907-1908, type 3 1908-1933.
  • goose3goose3 Posts: 11,471 ✭✭✭
    is that an Omega sign I see on the reverse?image

    seriously though it looks like a high end AU as someone stated above.

    best way to sell that coin is to spend the money to have it slabbed. If you're looking for an upstanding person to accomplish the entire task for you (slabbing, selling) send a PM to RUSS. he's the best we've got.
  • BlackborderBlackborder Posts: 2,797 ✭


    << <i>is that an Omega sign I see on the reverse?image >>



    image Ouch.
  • dan8402dan8402 Posts: 2,163


    << <i>

    << <i>is that an Omega sign I see on the reverse?image >>



    image Ouch. >>



    It probably wouldn't be a bad thing. I thought those commanded prices sometimes higher than genuine examples.
  • and5zacand5zac Posts: 492
    Thanks to all who have responded! Is an Omega a sign of a fake? I'm going to forward these responses to my father in law,maybe he'll leave it to his Favorite Son in Law some day!




    Lou
    Collecting Roberto Clemente and Willie Stargell cards.
  • dan8402dan8402 Posts: 2,163


    << <i>Thanks to all who have responded! Is an Omega a sign of a fake? I'm going to forward these responses to my father in law,maybe he'll leave it to his Favorite Son in Law some day!
    Lou >>




    The "Omega Man" was a counterfeiter that placed the omega symbol on his work. Here is a link that explains it a little better.

    Link
  • and5zacand5zac Posts: 492
    Thanks Dan 8402, I read the link,now it makes sense.



    Lou
    Collecting Roberto Clemente and Willie Stargell cards.
  • WinPitcherWinPitcher Posts: 27,726 ✭✭✭
    Well I had the value right. Also I think some (me) are mistaken here the link to the auction was not this coin.


    Or was it? lol


    Steve


    Good for you.
  • stevekstevek Posts: 30,212 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I can't tell what player that is on the obverse? I know it's a baseball player because a bat is being held.
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