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Go UCLA Bruins! Please don't let me down by losing by more than 40 points to the USC Trojans 
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Anyone else think that's cool Pete Carroll decided to take a loss of a time out in each half for the Trojans to wear their home jersey's? I was a season ticket holder back in the LA Colesium days and miss watching both teams wearing their home jerseys.
Brian
. Anyone else think that's cool Pete Carroll decided to take a loss of a time out in each half for the Trojans to wear their home jersey's? I was a season ticket holder back in the LA Colesium days and miss watching both teams wearing their home jerseys.
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I think UCLA upset John David Booty either last year of the year before. It was a low scoring game. Doubt that will happen this time.
No way USC deserves any talk of a title shot. Utah is undefeated, from a conference that was 6-1 against the Pac-10, and
beat Oregon State, a team that beat USC.
As for Utah. I will take USC against Utah ANY time. U$C will be favored by 14 or so and will cover. The fact that the MWC was good this year was nice but their good teams played all the bad Pac 10 teams. That doesn't mean any of them have a prayer against $C.
Brian
<< <i> The fact that the MWC was good this year was nice but their good teams played all the bad Pac 10 teams. That doesn't mean any of them have a prayer against $C. >>
Uh, no. USC lost to Oregon State. Utah beat Oregon State. Case closed. USC is highly over rated. They'd
probably be 8-4 in the SEC or Big 12 South. They have an erratic sophomore quarterback who isn't even on the same
planet as Tebow, JPW, or the Big 12 qb's.
<< <i>Uh, no. USC lost to Oregon State. Utah beat Oregon State. Case closed. USC is highly over rated. They'd
probably be 8-4 in the SEC or Big 12 South. They have an erratic sophomore quarterback who isn't even on the same
planet as Tebow, JPW, or the Big 12 qb's. >>
I totally understand what you are saying, but USC's defense this year is awesome. I've read and heard many times how this defensive unit is the best USC has ever had and they are extremely fast. I think USC's QB has some great upside, but they always have a great offensive system and it does help...Look at an example like Carson Palmer....I don't think he's done anything since he left SC. Yes the PAC 10 is weak and it extremely hurts USC's chances at a championship, but it also helps them too as they did play some crappy teams. IF USC can beat Penn St in the Rose Bowl, they will prove they were at least a deserved top 5 team.
Most people stop making that stupid argument about 6th grade.
Every year you could do the "they beat so and so and so and so beat such and such so thus...." That's just stupid.
Didn't UC Davis, new to division IAA, beat Stanford a year ago and then Stanford beat USC? I guess division Iaa UCD is better than everybody USC beat that year!? Stupid.
$C would beat Utah 9 out of 10 times. Sadly we will never "know" who is right but I think your simple logic is silly. $C had a bad week against Oregon State. That does not make Utah better than U$C.
The Pac 10 did SUCK this year. I won't argue that. However, I think $C is much better than you say.
As for UCLA, I am a big fan but I think it's sad that we, as UCLA fans, now consider it good that U$C didn't run up the score too badly. The program has fallen and I don't think Dorrell recruited anybody. I remember vividly going to the Rose Bowl 3 out of 4 years during my high school years. I went to all those games. UCLA won 7 bowl games in a row... gosh, that was 20+ years ago. Sad.
<< <i>Uh, no. USC lost to Oregon State. Utah beat Oregon State. Case closed.
Most people stop making that stupid argument about 6th grade.
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Uh, no. Voters use comparitive scoring in their analysis of who should be ranked higher.
Any idea why USC is not ranked higher then the Big 12 or SEC teams with 1 loss like OU, Bama, Florida, or Texas ?
They have the same record. USC has better defensive stats. USC blew out many teams. Why are they ranked lower
<< <i> IF USC can beat Penn St in the Rose Bowl, they will prove they were at least a deserved top 5 team. >>
I disagree. If USC beat Alabama or Texas, then they deserve to be a top 5 team. USC has beat absolutely NO ONE this
entire season. Their one quality win is against an Ohio State team that had a terrible QB who couldn't score a home touchdown
against Ohio University until late in the 3rd quarter the week before. USC had the week off before and after that Ohio State game as well. Nice schedule making if you asked me.
Now they get another home game against Penn State. A team from the weakest conference in the nation.
USC has it made with games against the Big 10 and Notre Dame and Stanford and the like. Not saying it's their fault, just
saying it is what it is.
<< <i>Any idea why USC is not ranked higher then the Big 12 or SEC teams with 1 loss like OU, Bama, Florida, or Texas ?
They have the same record. USC has better defensive stats. USC blew out many teams. Why are they ranked lower
The lack of top-to-bottom strength of the Pac 10, Notre Dame's suckiness, an offense that is usually efficient but not big on style, another upset loss in conference play. That last factor isn't enough to kill a team's chances by itself - e.g. Florida losing to Ole Miss - but it certainly doesn't help. Reducing the discussion to the absurd Utah>Oregon State>USC equation ignores the big picture. It's a point on which I can even agree with a Bruin fan.
Speaking of which, larryallen, I probably also would've agreed with the U$C/U. of Spoiled Children moniker during my undergrad days, but I think the university has done a good job of trying to shed that image and attract genuinely talented students. I'm sure there are still dense legacies who wallow in the traditional image, but on the whole, the school doesn't really reflect the stereotype anymore.
<< <i>Uh, no. USC lost to Oregon State. Utah beat Oregon State. Case closed.
Most people stop making that stupid argument about 6th grade.
Every year you could do the "they beat so and so and so and so beat such and such so thus...." That's just stupid.
Didn't UC Davis, new to division IAA, beat Stanford a year ago and then Stanford beat USC? I guess division Iaa UCD is better than everybody USC beat that year!? Stupid.
$C would beat Utah 9 out of 10 times. Sadly we will never "know" who is right but I think your simple logic is silly. $ >>
I totally agree with you Larry.
Yes the Pac 10 is a super weak conference these days, USC did beat OSU 35 to 3 (Top 5 at the time). They beat Oregon (Top 25 team) 44 to 10, and they lost a tough game to Oregon St (Top 25 team) 27 to 21 on the road in one of the toughest places to play. Then they also did beat California (Top 25 team) as well. They also beat up the powder puff teams to finish with one loss. They did everything they were asked to other than beating Oregon.
Then you got Bama losing last night...So they will end up with one loss, but they lost late in the season and it kills their chances at a championship.
What if Florida loses their championship game? Do we end up with Oklahoma versus Texas? Do we really know that Texas is better than Florida or Bama?
I don't know about anyone else, but I can really see a few teams with legitimate gripes that they were the best.
Time to have a playoff series with the top 8 or at least the top 4.
Yawie- You are right. Old habits die hard. I grew up in West LA a completely brain washed Bruin fan. Both parents went to undergrad and law school in Westwood. They filled my head full of all the glory of UCLA (they were there in the 60's) and all the negativity about USC from birth. I grew up hanging out in Westwood, high school jobs in Westwood, etc.... I ended up at a Cal State college so it's really irrelevant!
Any idea why USC is not ranked higher then the Big 12 or SEC teams with 1 loss like OU, Bama, Florida, or Texas ?
They have the same record. USC has better defensive stats. USC blew out many teams. Why are they ranked lower
I think USC is ranked lower because the Pac 10 is horrible this year. Has nothing to do with Webber State being Fullerton beating San Diego State beating Oregon.... The Pac 10 just sucks.
Having said that, I remember years ago there was talk of adding UU and BYU to the Pac 10. They didn't, from what I hear, because BYU didn't want to agree to play games on Sunday. Not sure if that's true. Anyway, both schools could eventually compete at the Pac 10 level but the first few years they would be Pac 10 doormats in most sports. Yes, they would win some games but they would be toward the bottom in most all sports... even football.
Just last night on ESPN they were talking about the difference between the Mountain West and the big conferences. One of the old coaches said the difference is DEPTH. Utah does not have the depth to compete, week in and week out, in a big conference. Could they beat Alabama? Of course they could and I hope they do... but it's not too likely.