Shipping to Canada - Will delivery confirmation work?
frankhardy
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I am shipping a ton of hockey stuff to Canada. It is my understanding that Delivery Confirmation will not work outside the US. How am I protected with Paypal if D.C. will not work to Canada?
Shane
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edited to add: I'm thinking Global Priority is too, but I've only used the Global Express.
Shane
USPS cannot confirm anything outside the USA, because they lose "control" over items.
paypal is a useless company if you can be patient and use common sense with your listing your items.
<< <i>paypal is a useless company if you can be patient and use common sense with your listing your items. >>
Thanks. I am not quite sure what you meant with that statement, though. If you are implying that I shouldn't take Paypal, I don't have a choice. It is a requirement for selling on Ebay now. A seller doesn't have a choice anymore.
Shane
I still see plenty of listings saying they accept other forms of payment.
I think you have to list it in your written auction description. But ebay will no longer give you an option to have a NON-PAYPAL payment option in their listing.
paypal is worthless, i have not bought or sold using paypal in more than 2 yrs.
Don`t believe the hype
<< <i>glabal pri is trackable with the big white custom form , the little green one just shows acceptance, and nothing ever again for a foreign country,but the big white on does >>
Classic Rubanese.
<< <i>Frankh.
I still see plenty of listings saying they accept other forms of payment.
I think you have to list it in your written auction description. But ebay will no longer give you an option to have a NON-PAYPAL payment option in their listing.
paypal is worthless, i have not bought or sold using paypal in more than 2 yrs.
Don`t believe the hype
The key is that you cannot DENY Paypal, so, naturally, most people will pay with Paypal. At least, that is the way I understand it.
stevek,
So, are you saying that there is no way that I am protected when shipping a bubble mailer to Canada? I have several high dollar packages going this week.
Shane
<< <i>I'm happy to sell to anyone in Canada as long as it's shipped to a US address - then that person in the US, be it their family member, friend, business associate or whoever, can then ship it to them and then they can worry about it, not me. >>
Would you be interested in being my US rep?
Edit to add: Signature
The cost to Canada is just under $30.00; the first $100 of insurance
is included.
PP accepts the online confirmation page as proof of delivery.
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<< <i>Frankh.
I still see plenty of listings saying they accept other forms of payment.
I think you have to list it in your written auction description. But ebay will no longer give you an option to have a NON-PAYPAL payment option in their listing.
paypal is worthless, i have not bought or sold using paypal in more than 2 yrs.
Don`t believe the hype
The key is that you cannot DENY Paypal, so, naturally, most people will pay with Paypal. At least, that is the way I understand it.
stevek,
So, are you saying that there is no way that I am protected when shipping a bubble mailer to Canada? I have several high dollar packages going this week. >>
I honestly don't know - I'm just saying I've never shipped an item to Canada and I don't want to find out. I block all foreign bidders from my ebay bids, but if they e-mail me and ask to ship to say Canada, then we do the transaction off of ebay privately and I ship to their US designated location, or they have someone in the US buy it for them off ebay. If I worked on very high profit margins or was selling junk out of my attic with basically no cost in it, then I wouldn't care that much about getting stiffed once in awhile, but with the items I sell, some of them expensive, I can't afford to get stiffed...even if doing everything right occasionally chit does happen, so my feeling is why stretch my luck - It's just my business model that works well for me. Perhaps I lose a few dollars sometimes by not shipping direct to Canada, but then again, I believe I'm saving money and at the very least saving myself time and aggravation.
If you're "committed" to these transactions, my strong viewpoint would be to ship by UPS and not use the post office - I ship all of my ebay sales valued at about $100 or more by UPS, even if it's only one card.
The USPS has some type of agreements that make dealing with customs easy. The USPS is the easiest and best.
UPS delivers up here and with me they are 3 wins and 5 losses, that were all damaged goods... seriously.
Such carriers often use local "expediters" and "transfer agents" to accomplish
the final leg of the journey. These guys charge HUGE fees that are tacked onto
the packages as due-COD.
Some carriers will leave the package after the Canadian customer refuses to
pay the extra fee. The carriers then bill the US sender; refusal to pay can result
in collection actions and damaged credit reports.
Some carriers will reroute the package to the US sender, when the Canadian
addressee refuses to pay.
The Canadian customers, of course, then leave NEGs for their EBAY seller.
One should NEVER use any service other than USPS on a Canadian EBAY-sale.
they dont like me
<Classic Rubanese.>
what paul said- as long as i know what im saying,you have to decode the cypher -
hey trent,merry fishmas
<< <i>ALL non-USPS services from US to Canada present serious problems for EBAYers.
Such carriers often use local "expediters" and "transfer agents" to accomplish
the final leg of the journey. These guys charge HUGE fees that are tacked onto
the packages as due-COD.
Some carriers will leave the package after the Canadian customer refuses to
pay the extra fee. The carriers then bill the US sender; refusal to pay can result
in collection actions and damaged credit reports.
Some carriers will reroute the package to the US sender, when the Canadian
addressee refuses to pay.
The Canadian customers, of course, then leave NEGs for their EBAY seller.
One should NEVER use any service other than USPS on a Canadian EBAY-sale. >>
I guess that means Fed Ex is out of the question. I have an account with them and I was going to test them today. So, now I am back to USPS.
As far as not shipping to Canada - I had 240 vintage hockey auctions end Tuesday night. If I didn't except Canadian bidders, I would have lost out on tons of bidding. Of those 240, I would guess that over 210 are going to Canada. In my opinion, I couldn't afford NOT to take Canadian bidders on those auctions.
Shane
<< <i>ALL non-USPS services from US to Canada present serious problems for EBAYers.
Such carriers often use local "expediters" and "transfer agents" to accomplish
the final leg of the journey. These guys charge HUGE fees that are tacked onto
the packages as due-COD.
Some carriers will leave the package after the Canadian customer refuses to
pay the extra fee. The carriers then bill the US sender; refusal to pay can result
in collection actions and damaged credit reports.
Some carriers will reroute the package to the US sender, when the Canadian
addressee refuses to pay.
The Canadian customers, of course, then leave NEGs for their EBAY seller.
One should NEVER use any service other than USPS on a Canadian EBAY-sale. >>
That's good information - My comments on UPS versus USPS was based on my many years of shipping experience in the US - and I will continue to use UPS as stated for US shipments. Interesting though how the shipping system "changes" in Canada. Hard to believe that a huge, first class, company such as UPS would allow such inefficiencies such as that but I imagine based on Storm's comments that perhaps Canadian law doesn't allow UPS to make the "entire delivery" possibly for monopoly or "foreign company" reasons, or perhaps UPS just doesn't see delivering to Canada as profitable in certain areas of Canada at any price?
Well here it is direct from the horse's mouth if anyone is interested - Doesn't sound bad to me but based on Storm's good reputation here I would trust his judgment on this.
accepted by PayPal to defend/defeat an INR claim.
The problem is the handoff that sometimes happens inside the country. It is not unreasonable
that the Canadian customers will feel ripped-off by the extra charges that can be attached, but
it is just too risky on the FB front - not the safety front - to use UPS/FedEx in Canada.
(The handoff is "cost related" and not a "division of labor/spread the work" issue. The services
simply cannot fund frequent deliveries to some areas by using internal manpower; they have
no choice but to use third-party help, which adds end-user fees. Also, the issue is not urban
vs. rural; city-dwellers are just as apt to be hit with the add-ons as are rural folks.)
Remember, both UPS/FedEx establish routes that "require right-hand turns" as a cost-cutting
measure. If they cannot make money at the base-rate, they really have no choice but to use
third-party agents.
There are weekly horror-stories on the EBAY shipping-forum about the problem.
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Delivery Confirmation
Verify that your shipment was delivered with your choice of signature or adult signature options
Description UPS will provide you with evidence of delivery in your choice of these options:
Delivery Confirmation: UPS will mail you a confirmation of delivery without a signature. (Not acceptable to PayPal.)
Signature Required: UPS will obtain the recipient's signature and provide you with a printed copy. You may also view the recipient's signature online. (PP acceptable.)
Adult Signature Required: UPS will obtain the adult recipient's signature and provide you with a printed copy. Adult recipients must be at least 21. You may also view the adult recipient's signature online. (PP acceptable.)
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<< <i>UPS service to Canada >>
From their add... "Ideal for less-urgent shipments to and from Canada"
I should have mentioned that I've watched the Old Guy in the minivan that drops off the UPS stuff literally throw things in the parking lot trying to get a certain item out of his van. And ya, I don't think UPS is a problem, but their forwarders definitly are.
The real problem is with customs. The USPS being Govt operated gets better treatment at customs.
"As far as not shipping to Canada - I had 240 vintage hockey auctions end Tuesday night. If I didn't except Canadian bidders, I would have lost out on tons of bidding. Of those 240, I would guess that over 210 are going to Canada. In my opinion, I couldn't afford NOT to take Canadian bidders on those auctions." ~~ YES EXACTLY ----- some US sellers just don't get it!!!!
Not only that, but factor in .... of the 210 going North and the 30 that stayed south ~ how many were BID UP by fellow Canucks ??
Personally anything around $200.00 should go USPS INTL 1st class, it's extremely reasonable and encourages big time bidding from North of the Border. This is done at the buyers risk(and the sellers too, if anything goes wrong of course) .....BUT and i do mean BUT ~ the trade off is $$$$$$$$$ that you've never would have gotten, esp. considering the excessive price of DC or not shipping to Canada entirely. You could always request M.O.s or Checks in USD as an alternative if a paypal claim is a worry.
I've seen a few US sellers take major league bath's especially on Hockey related material, because of their goofy shipping policies. Keep it reasonable ~ and they will come. Shutting out Canucks is NOT the way to go, there's some major collectors who love to spend. Maybe i'm just lucky ..... but i've literally had thousands of trouble free cross border transactions with only one 99 cent item disappear....... or so it was said.
Sometimes you just gotta roll the dice.