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Ricky Henderson,
Jay Bell,
David Cone,
Ron Gant,
Mark Grace,
Jesse Orosco,
Dan Plesac,
Greg Vaughn,
Mo Vaughn,
Matt Williams,
Mark McGwire,
Jim Rice,
Harold Baines,
Bert Blyleven,
Andre Dawson,
Tommy John,
Don Mattingly,
Jack Morris,
Dale Murphy,
Dave Parker,
Tim Raines,
Lee Smith,
Alan Trammell

So who's in and who's out?

Austin
"For to me, to live is Christ and to die is gain" - Apostle Paul - Philippians 1:21

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  • jeffcbayjeffcbay Posts: 8,949 ✭✭✭✭
    Here's my opinion:

    Ricky Henderson,
    Mark Grace,
    Mark McGwire,
    Jim Rice,
    Andre Dawson,
    Tommy John,
    Don Mattingly,
    Dave Parker,
    Tim Raines,
    Alan Trammell
  • The only 3 with a shot are Henderson, Rice and Dawson. Mattingly and Murphy belong in my opinion but will probably never get in.
  • VitoCo1972VitoCo1972 Posts: 6,128 ✭✭✭
    Only Rice and Henderson in my humble opinion
  • AkbarCloneAkbarClone Posts: 2,476 ✭✭✭
    I don't actively collect sports cards or memorabilia for any of those guys.
    I collect Vintage Cards, Commemorative Sets, and way too many vintage and modern player collections in Baseball (180 players), Football (175 players), and Basketball (87 players). Also have a Dallas Cowboy team collection.
  • markj111markj111 Posts: 2,921 ✭✭✭
    Henderson
    Raines
    Blyleven
    Trammell

    I would vote in the above order. Mattingly is not close. Murphy, Morris, and Rice are closer, but would not get my vote. Raines was a much better player than Rice; Raines was roughly the equivalent of Gwynn. Raines' extra walks make up for Gwynn's extra singles. Their OBPs were .385 v .388.

    McGwire will have to play out later, IMHO. My expectation is that Henderson abd Rice will be the only ones elected.
  • digicatdigicat Posts: 8,551 ✭✭
    I'm predicting this (with estimated voting percentages)

    In
    Ricky Henderson (higher than 95%)
    Jim Rice (just above 80%)

    Hold-overs to 2010
    Bert Blyleven (<70%)
    Andre Dawson (<70%)
    Don Mattingly (<20%)
    Mark McGwire (<25%)
    Jack Morris (<45%)
    Dale Murphy (<15%)
    Dave Parker (<15%)
    Tim Raines (<25%)
    Lee Smith (<40%)
    Alan Trammell (<15%)
    Mark Grace (<15%)
    Mo Vaughn (<10%)

    Out
    Harold Baines (<5%)
    Jay Bell (<1%)
    David Cone (<5%)
    Ron Gant (<5%)
    Jesse Orosco (<5%)
    Dan Plesac (<1%)
    Greg Vaughn (<5%)
    Matt Williams (<5%)

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    Tommy John (<30%)
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  • If I'm voting...

    Henderson for sure

    My Wish picks:
    Mark Grace
    Andre Dawson
    Lee Smith
    Alan Trammell
    Dale Murphy
    Jim Rice
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  • julen23julen23 Posts: 4,558 ✭✭
    R I C K E Y
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    RIP GURU
  • Brian48Brian48 Posts: 2,624 ✭✭✭
    Ricky's the only lock here. Would like to see Rice get in finally, but you never know. People thought he was a shoe-in the last couple of years, but it didn't happen then and would not surprise me if it didn't happen this year as well (unfortunately).
  • Rickey says Rickey gets in.
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  • markj111markj111 Posts: 2,921 ✭✭✭


    << <i>Ricky's the only lock here. Would like to see Rice get in finally, but you never know. People thought he was a shoe-in the last couple of years, but it didn't happen then and would not surprise me if it didn't happen this year as well (unfortunately). >>




    Huh? Who thought he was a shoo-in? He can't get in for twelve years, but he's a shoo-in in year 13? I expect he will be elected, but I hope I am wrong. Raines is far more deserving.
  • henderson 100% rice 90%shot since I think he was close last time
    all others no way
  • what if baines had gotten to 3000 hits? Is he in? i THINK HE HAD 2800 SOMETHING
  • markj111markj111 Posts: 2,921 ✭✭✭


    << <i>henderson 100% rice 90%shot since I think he was close last time
    all others no way >>



    Question-No way anyone else gets in, or no way anyone else deserves it?
  • shagrotn77shagrotn77 Posts: 5,582 ✭✭✭✭
    What Rich said.
    "My father would womanize, he would drink. He would make outrageous claims like he invented the question mark. Sometimes he would accuse chestnuts of being lazy. The sort of general malaise that only the genius possess and the insane lament. Our childhood was typical. Summers in Rangoon, luge lessons. In the spring we'd make meat helmets. When we were insolent we were placed in a burlap bag and beaten with reeds - pretty standard really."
  • MBMiller25MBMiller25 Posts: 6,057 ✭✭
    I think you will see Henderson (He's a lock) and Jim Rice go in this year.
  • Rickey is a lock. Rice maybe because they are feeling very generous. He's very overrated.

    oh. and Blylevn should already be in the HOF, but im sure they wont put him in again.
  • OAKESY25OAKESY25 Posts: 4,726 ✭✭✭
    rickey has a chance at setting some sort of record.. he is an obvious choice in a very sub par class..
    rice should get in.. I would love Donny baseball too but I know better
    and how do you keep the Hawk out???
  • pandrewspandrews Posts: 7,598 ✭✭✭
    RICKEY FTW
    ·p_A·
  • EstilEstil Posts: 7,058 ✭✭✭✭
    Ricky Henderson
    Jay Bell,
    David Cone,
    Ron Gant,
    Mark Grace,
    Jesse Orosco,
    Dan Plesac,
    Greg Vaughn,
    Mo Vaughn,
    Matt Williams,
    Mark McGwire,
    Jim Rice,
    Harold Baines,
    Bert Blyleven,
    Andre Dawson,
    Tommy John,
    Don Mattingly,
    Jack Morris,
    Dale Murphy,
    Dave Parker,
    Tim Raines,
    Lee Smith,
    Alan Trammell

    Considering Mr. Henderson is the only real shoo-in this year, this has got to be Mr. Blyleven's year. With my luck he'll come up less than ten votes short or something...
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  • jlzinckjlzinck Posts: 907 ✭✭
    If Rice does not get in it will be a shame.

    That is all
  • rube26105rube26105 Posts: 10,225 ✭✭
    Dan Plesac
    never heard of him?
  • digicatdigicat Posts: 8,551 ✭✭


    << <i>Dan Plesac
    never heard of him? >>



    A 3 time All-Star reliever with the Brewers early in his career in the late 80s... common middle reliever for the rest of his career. Pitched in 1064 games. Not a hall of famer.
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  • Jesse Orosco? Wow. I thought he was still pitching. Thought he would pitch forever.
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  • RedHeart54RedHeart54 Posts: 2,277 ✭✭✭
    I'm already looking forward to Rickey's speech.
  • Ricky Henderson
    Jay Bell,
    David Cone,
    Ron Gant,
    Mark Grace,
    Jesse Orosco,
    Dan Plesac,
    Greg Vaughn,
    Mo Vaughn,
    Matt Williams,
    Mark McGwire,
    Jim Rice,
    Harold Baines,
    Bert Blyleven,
    Andre Dawson,
    Tommy John,
    Don Mattingly,
    Jack Morris,
    Dale Murphy,
    Dave Parker,
    Tim Raines,
    Lee Smith,
    Alan Trammell

    I see 20 people on that list that were considered to be serious future HOF candidates when they were in their prime. Now I only see 5 that would be on my HOF ballot and only one or two that will get in.
  • julen23julen23 Posts: 4,558 ✭✭
    ron gant

    lofl

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  • julen23julen23 Posts: 4,558 ✭✭
    what's the @#$@ing criteria for simply being on the ballot?

    ron gant??

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  • royalbrettroyalbrett Posts: 620 ✭✭✭
    Rickey only.
    Yeah, I uploaded that KC icon in 2001
  • markj111markj111 Posts: 2,921 ✭✭✭


    << <i>Dan Plesac
    never heard of him? >>




    Never heard of him? I would not admit that in public. Where's the love for Raines? He's an easy HOFer.
  • RonBurgundyRonBurgundy Posts: 5,491 ✭✭✭
    Rickey, Bert, Andre, and Jack. That's it.



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  • << <i>Ricky Henderson
    Jay Bell,
    David Cone,
    Ron Gant,
    Mark Grace,
    Jesse Orosco,
    Dan Plesac,
    Greg Vaughn,
    Mo Vaughn,
    Matt Williams,
    Mark McGwire,
    Jim Rice,
    Harold Baines,
    Bert Blyleven,
    Andre Dawson,
    Tommy John,
    Don Mattingly,
    Jack Morris,
    Dale Murphy,
    Dave Parker,
    Tim Raines,
    Lee Smith,
    Alan Trammell

    I see 20 people on that list that were considered to be serious future HOF candidates when they were in their prime. Now I only see 5 that would be on my HOF ballot and only one or two that will get in. >>




    Really? I only see around 10.
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    Raw: Tony Gonzalez (low #'d cards, and especially 1/1's) and Steve Young.
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