Will this '62P 50c grade FBL at PCGS? Updated Photos

frnklnlvr

I bought this coin a few days ago. I haven't received it yet, but here are the photos from the seller. I don't think it will grade FBL at NGC but does it have a chance at PCGS?

tightbudget

If it won't FBL at NGC, then it won't at PCGS. NGC is tougher with FBL than PCGS.

frnklnlvr

If PCGS isn't as tough as NGC then it might have a chance right?

Tbar

I say yes...

frnklnlvr

It's a nice strike for a '62, I only paid about $20 for it. I figured it was worth a shot to buy it and submit it for grading.

This 1962 NGC MS64 FBL sold on Ebay for a $80 Buy It Now last week. When I tried to buy it, I was too late. Someone beat me to it. I'm still sick over this. Apparently someone needed some money or didn't know what it was worth.

PCcoins

The bottom set of lines looks full from the provided pictures. But the top isn't. This coin wouldn't receive the FBL at NGC.

But maybe at PCGS

frnklnlvr

I'll get some better photos when I receive the coin.

segoja

Looks FBL to me from the pics.

tightbudget

<< <i>If it won't FBL at NGC, then it won't at PCGS. NGC is tougher with FBL than PCGS. >>



Oh right...whoops flawed logic

nankraut

I think it's worth a chance.

lcoopie

doesn't look full to me, above the F--D, and L--F
but good luck

frnklnlvr

<< <i>doesn't look full to me, above the F--D, and L--F
but good luck >>



Yea, that's the only part that concerns me. It's a little wavy in that area. When I have it in hand I'll be able to tell a lot more. But I have seen Franklin's graded FBL that looked about the same.

Mercury10c

No. Too much chatter to the left of the crack. That's really too bad because that coin has a great strike.

LindeDad

No it is not FBL.

frnklnlvr

Thanks for all the opinions. I still may submit. I'll post an update when I get it back.

frnklnlvr

Updated photos are at the top of the thread. To me they look just a little too flat in the lower left area. I'm still going to submit to PCGS, I may get lucky and get an FBL.

Also on this coin is a little area on Franklin's head. Does this look like a planchet defect or a strike-thru?

mcheath

The grading services are inconsistant with the FBL designation. It really is a shot in the dark with a coin like this. I say pcgs says no but if it was a 56-p then maybe.

MadMarty

Looks like a hit on the left side of the bell lines, if it is no FBL...

Connecticoin

Looks FBL to me -- I've seen worse in PCGS FBL holders.

frnklnlvr

Well I sent the coin in for certification. It's also got a noticable strike-thru on Franklin's head that I'm going to have noted on the holder. I'll post the results of the bell lines when I get it back.

Boom

Good Luck!

bushmaster8

<< <i> It's also got a noticable strike-thru on Franklin's head that I'm going to have noted on the holder. .. >>



Did you pay an additional $20 for variety review? If not, you won't get the strike -thru noted on the holder. Instead you will get a lower grade than had it not been "defective". Sad, but true.

frnklnlvr

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<< <i> It's also got a noticable strike-thru on Franklin's head that I'm going to have noted on the holder. .. >>



Did you pay an additional $20 for variety review? If not, you won't get the strike -thru noted on the holder. Instead you will get a lower grade than had it not been "defective". Sad, but true. >>



Yes, I had a friend send it in with some of his coins on an error/variety submission.

coinkat

Does a strike through such as this command a decent premimum? I tend to doubt that it is worth the cost of submitting as an error... perhaps someone can correct me on that.

No FBL for this one.

seanq

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<< <i> It's also got a noticable strike-thru on Franklin's head that I'm going to have noted on the holder. .. >>



Did you pay an additional $20 for variety review? If not, you won't get the strike -thru noted on the holder. Instead you will get a lower grade than had it not been "defective". Sad, but true. >>



Yes, I had a friend send it in with some of his coins on an error/variety submission. >>



Smart... in all likelihood it would not get downgraded but bodybagged had you not sent it on an error submission. I have an awesome 1941 DDO Lincoln, an easy AU, which PCGS bagged for a small strike through on the reverse. I even put a note in the flip explaining that the coin was as struck and not damaged after leaving the Mint, which they were kind enough to send back.


Sean Reynolds

SkyMan

FBL is a total crapshoot unless a coin is hammered. I've seen any number of PCGS Franklins with this level of strike on the lines be labeled as FBL. HOWEVER, the cynic in me says that this is a '62, where the price differential between a FBL and a non-FBL is about 20 to 1, so therefore this coin wil not be FBL'ed. Realistically I think that even though a FBL is supposed to be the same across date/mm, where there is a significant pop in price for a given date/mm between FBL and non-FBL (most notoriously for the '53-S), PCGS grades much more conservatively for a FBL.

Best of Luck on the grade/designation!

YaHa

FBL does that stand for Foot Ball Leverage?

Nooooooo FBL for this coin. Sorry. Nice strike though.

frnklnlvr

I definitely agree that it's a crapshoot. It could go either way and I do believe that the date can make a difference. I have some PCGS FBLs that aren't as strong as this '62, but the price difference isn't as dramatic. We'll see what they say, it could take a couple submissions.