Do you think this Morgan would Bodybag?

DoubleEagle59

I bought this Morgan off of Ebay about 6 months ago for about $30 US.

Personally, I think it's a no brainer ms65, possibly an ms66.

However, there are two very small rim bumps on the reverse (2:00 and 4:00)

Do you think these small rim bumps would BB this coin?

airplanenut

I wouldn't say a bodybag, but I hope the coin has a lot more lustre. If it doesn't, there's no way it's going to get a gem grade.

eyoung429

hmmm.....looks like a 63 if the luster is there. They are kinda tight on this date.

nankraut

65 or 66??? of course you're joking.

DoubleEagle59

<< <i>65 or 66??? of course you're joking. >>



This is a coin that obviously doesn't photograph well.

It's one of the coins in my Morgan album that I posted earlier.

I've had quite a few Morgans slabbed as ms65 and in the past year I've seen a ton of 65's.

Maybe saying this could be a 66 is a joke (I'll give you that) but it would be a crime against coin collecting if you had this coin in hand and said it didn't deserve a 65.

derryb

don't see a body bag from the pic. 64 details, 63 fields, 62 rim - Net 63 possible 64

AUandAG

Sure.

bob

relicsncoins

Probably a 67....

























at numistrust.

DennisH

Rim bumps are too minor to keep it out of a holder.

But based upon the pictures it doesn't appear to have the lustre or "look" to go any higher than MS65 at PCGS, and I wouldn't be surprised by MS64.

Halfhunter06

i'm a little apprehensive on the obverse, it almost looks as if it is begining to corrode. (the black dots)

DUIGUY

decent strike for an O mint MS64 IMHO

Boom

To respond as succinctly as possible, I'll put it this way.

I was thinking 63 till I spotted that rather nasty hit right

above the Eagle's left wing tip. It concerns me & with yet

another at the 4 o'clock position again on the Reverse

along with the hits to the Obverse - I think it WILL get

bodybagged. I hope I'm wrong though.

Good Luck!

65/66 - no way! JMHO, FWIW!

commoncents123

I'm going to go out on a limb here and say altered surfaces

Boom

<<I'm going to go out on a limb here and say altered surfaces >>

Funny you should come out with that because I was thinking the same thing,
for no good, apparent reason - just a feeling.

commoncents123

<< <i><<I'm going to go out on a limb here and say altered surfaces >>

Funny you should come out with that because I was thinking the same thing,
for no good, apparent reason - just a feeling.

>>



Uh huh!

Boom

<< Rim bumps are too minor to keep it out of a holder.>>

Maybe so, Dennis & then again - Maybe not!

FWIW, JMHO but there are just too many of them
NOT to be of significance!

I thought the one at the 2 o'clock position was pretty
significant myself but when I saw the one lower down
it struck me as being potentially WORSE than the First!

Just looking at it as it is - nobody can say for sure
but I would say chances of getting BB are pretty good
particularly IF PCGS is as tight as people say they are!

Again - I hope I'm wrong but there is only 1 way to find
out for sure.

GO FOR IT & may the grading gods smile upon you.

Steve27

Those dings are too minor to keep it out of a slab, but they will affect the grade. I'm thinking MS64.

golfer72

Even without the rim dings i see no higher than 64

darktone

I could see a 65 if the coin had better luster than the pictures show. those dings won't keep out of a holder.

halfhunter

I'd dip it before submitting to bring out luster & remove the black spots. JMO

Still with the rim dings and the availability of this date, probably 64.

Regards,

John

ColonialCoinUnion

<< <i>i'm a little apprehensive on the obverse, it almost looks as if it is begining to corrode. (the black dots) >>



?

coinkat

I think the most probable grade is 64. I think it would look better in a Morgan Album collection. If it were a better date, I would say send it in.

Boom

An 84-O in PCGS 65 and higher IS a tough coin to "make"!

mmotx

Rim dings aside, that is a no brainer 65. Looks like some people need to take a closer look at what they call a 65 these days. Now with the rim dings it is a tough call, but the only way to find out is to play the game.

Regarding a tough make at 65....I would say hardly, considering PCGS has graded just slightly over 10,800 at the level.

JJM

should be ok, 63.......
the rims keep it from anything higher IMO

keets

it would look nice in a folder after it's rinsed with acetone to get rid of whatever has caused it to tone, cause if it keeps going like it is it's destined to get very dark. i like the strike but the obverse doesn't do it for me. save the fees and save the coin.

Connecticoin

The rim bumps might BB the coin, or they might knock it down a grade (perhaps from 65 to 64)

I would do a soak in acetone to make sure there is no PVC on the coin (especially if the coin came to you in a soft flip). Do NOT dip it -- the toning looks fine. The tiny black streaks and spots are part of the orginal toning and are not distracting, so don't try to dip them off -- the coin will then be ruined.

garsmith

Either you need help with your imaging or that is a MS-62/MS-63 at best.

derryb

<< <i>I'd dip it before submitting to bring out luster & remove the black spots. JMO

Still with the rim dings and the availability of this date, probably 64.

Regards,

John >>

JRocco

I think it would slab but not for as high a grade as thought.

anablep

BB? Nope.

I'd grade it a 64, no higher.

Nice strike, low luster, clunky rims.

Good luck...

sinin1

I think it has been whizzed

in the field in front of the eye and on the cheek


but if was in my hand could probably tell for sure



not sure why keets thinks acetone will get of toning

Dog97

There APPEARS to be dull areas in the fields below both wings & directly in front of Liberty's eye, as if some black specks were cleaned up, leaving pits, that may preclude slabbing.