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ChangeInHistoryChangeInHistory Posts: 3,084 ✭✭✭✭✭
Friday saw a LOT of public in the AM and early afternoon. Around 3 it calmed down quite a bit and you could actually sit at the tables to look through stuff. There were plenty of 'tire kickers', but overall dealers seemed happy with business. Retail seemed a little better than usual. Currency is hot and it was hard to get to Tim Kyzivat's (sp) table. And NGC coins were selling just as much as PCGS coins-----nice coins were selling and obvious problem ones were not.

The Mad One found a great PO-01 1928 Peace dollar and was able to buy a decent amount of proof sets. How he can spot potential Lincoln cameos I just don't know--he's got the eye for them.

I found some very good deals on a few fractional notes and some type B rev. Washingtons. I hope to pick up a few coins this AM and we'll head back home.

Had a great dinner with Kevin & Brian of Harbor Coins, James Sego, Barry, Ron Jeremy and a few other dealers. (missed you Keets) Then off to the bar for some drinks and a few hours of great coin talk.

We'll make some rounds this AM and head back to Chi-town.

This show is worth the trip every year and I recommend it to anyone who can make it.

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  • SaorAlbaSaorAlba Posts: 7,593 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I did the show incognito as Ivan. I bought no coins unfortunately, seemed like prices were fairly firm on the stuff I was interested in. I saw none of the Louisiana Purchase medals I had hoped to find an example of, no gold at near spot etc.

    I did buy a hometown National, and a Civil War Parrott shell, weighs 20lbs and was dug up at Port Hudson, LA.
    Tir nam beann, nan gleann, s'nan gaisgeach ~ Saorstat Albanaich a nis!
  • keetskeets Posts: 25,351 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Matt, believe me when i say that i sorely missed you guys, also!!!

    if i close my eyes tightly i can envision the bourse floor, where each dealer is, even what some of their cases/tables might look like, what coins i might expect to find and where. it sounds to me like a typiucal Friday at what's always been a well organized and fun show for me to attend. not only does something scha-weet make its way into my collection from this show, there's always a well rounded group of forum members in attendance and the dinner's are to die for. then, it's off to the bar!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    give my regards to everyone, give the chicken(not Marty, the chicken) a squeeze from me and i'll try to make it next year.image
  • I was there yesterday morning and like others have said it was really crowded.

    I didn't buy anything as I'm trying to focus my collection and couldn't find the right fit.

    There was a nice entertaining little incident when I first got there as a bum tried to fool a dealer with a stack of gold soverigns with only the top 2 being genuine. The dealer got pissed and yelled for security and made a nice scene.

    There was also a dealer there I don't remeber seeing before that had a very impressive hoard of early copper all raw displayed on kraft envelopes. Some really nice coins, all of them being raw kind of shocked me.

    All in all I had a nice time but I wish I would have went later when the crowd thinned out.
  • MadMartyMadMarty Posts: 16,697 ✭✭✭
    Sorry Al, no chicken this year... He head you weren't going to make it and went into a deep depression!

    I can say one thing about this show, cash is king! anyone selling coins to dealers wants payment in cash. No checks, no trades, cold hard cashola! Some dealers were picking up some good bargains, GSA dollars going for $150!! Many of the dealers here are waiting for the Houston show to sell what they picked up here.
    It is not exactly cheating, I prefer to consider it creative problem solving!!!

  • DUIGUYDUIGUY Posts: 7,252 ✭✭✭


    << <i>GSA dollars going for $150!! >>



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  • MadMartyMadMarty Posts: 16,697 ✭✭✭


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    << <i>GSA dollars going for $150!! >>



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    Then the dealer bragging how it should 65 or 66!!!
    It is not exactly cheating, I prefer to consider it creative problem solving!!!

  • SaorAlbaSaorAlba Posts: 7,593 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I could not get over the number of individuals there that had not discovered the social benefits of having bathed and using deodorant. image

    There was a lot of traffic there yesterday, coupled with the lights it made for a rather hot environment, and the odoriferous ones were omnipresent in crowds.
    Tir nam beann, nan gleann, s'nan gaisgeach ~ Saorstat Albanaich a nis!
  • I went there yesterday.
    It was a 3 1/2 hour drive each way since I live across the state.
    This is the best show I've been to in years.
    The fall State show is always good, but it hasn't been like this in quite a while.
    I collect the Liberty Seated Quarters. There hasn't been very many available at shows lately but this show had plenty.
    When I first went in, I went into the annex first. The annex is where you find most of the small time dealers, and I've had good luck in cherrypicking them.
    I immediately saw a dealers case with a large amount of seated coins. Ididn't even look at the dealer. I saw an 1844-O Quarter and asked to see it. He handed it to me and I checked the reverse, then gave it back.
    He asked if I was looking at it to see if it were the Reverse of 1843-O,Large O. I said yes, and he laughed. I looked up and saw it was Lynn Ourso, of New Orleans Rare Coins. A Seated specialist.
    We talked a bit, then I went around the dealers tables in the annex.
    I didn't see anything special, so I went into the main room.
    I said hi to all the dealers I knew as I went through.
    I found an 1855 seated Quarter that looked to have an obverse doubled die.
    I knew there was a variety with a doubled die, but hadn't ever seen it. The Quarter was a nice VF and I got it for $27.
    When I got to Terry Searcy's table, I had him look at it. He wasn't sure, as he was unfamiliar with the variety.
    I kept looking until I got to Larry Briggs table. He was so busy, he hadn't had a chance to put his coins in his cases yet.
    After saying hi and shaking hands, I had him look at it. He agreed it was the doubled obverse die 1855 Quarter, so I have one more variety of Seated Quarter now.
    The one case Larry had managed to put a few coins in had an 1870-CC, 1871-CC, and 1872-CC Seated Quarter in it.
    Wow. It's been a long time since I've seen those three together for sale at once at a show.
    I wandered around a bit then, but I was getting real tired. I decided to pack it in and went home.
    All in all, I had a great time, and really enjoyed meeting up again with so many old friends.

    Ray

  • ArizonaJackArizonaJack Posts: 4,029 ✭✭✭
    Glad to hear there is life left in Michigan !!
    All the info I have been getting from friends and family says that this was the best MSNS show in a while. Glad to hear it !!
    " YOU SUCK " Awarded 5/18/08
  • Tbar.............. the dealer with the early copper was Tom Reynolds.
    I looked at his offerings, and told him I kinda wished I hadn't sold my Large Cent collection to Al Patterson, 15 years or so ago.
    There's just something about the old coppers I miss.

    Ray
  • 291fifth291fifth Posts: 24,670 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I went on Saturday.

    I managed to add one item to my "secret" collection for the huge sum of $12. In talking to some folks on the floor I got mixed reactions on how good business actually was. Some said it was a good show while others said it was slow. Some familiar faces were missing from the bourse, though the bourse was sold out.

    The MSNS didn't have a raffle this time. The high price of gold must have done it in this year.

    Traffic on Saturday was steady but I wouldn't call it heavy.

    I dropped off one coin at the DGS booth, manned by Mike Ellis. I like their grading and the fact that they were willing to take such a small submission. (I had tried to submit this coin to PCGS through my local dealer a few months ago. They declined, saying they no longer submitted customers coins due to insurance problems related to their using FedEx.)

    DGS had an assortment of coins in their display case. I agreed with their grading in nearly all cases.

    All glory is fleeting.
  • keetskeets Posts: 25,351 ✭✭✭✭✭
    i don't know if you guys weren't attending this show regularly for the past several years, but L.B. always has nice choice material and a crowded table area, ditto for Tom with his lovely copper. it think it's always advisable to get to a show early and MSNS is no different, but i find that perhaps the best time can be about 2-3 on Friday till the close of the first day. by that time the crowd is thin, the dealers are a bit more approachable/inclined to sit and talk. you might miss a coin or two if you wait till then, but the chances are you'll be able to see what's on the back-ups which never got put out.
  • JRoccoJRocco Posts: 14,277 ✭✭✭✭✭


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    All in all I had a nice time but I wish I would have went later when the crowd thinned out. >>



    I can't really enjoy a show that is too crowded.
    Some coins are just plain "Interesting"
  • WTCGWTCG Posts: 8,940 ✭✭✭


    << <i>Sorry Al, no chicken this year... He head you weren't going to make it and went into a deep depression!

    I can say one thing about this show, cash is king! anyone selling coins to dealers wants payment in cash. No checks, no trades, cold hard cashola! Some dealers were picking up some good bargains, GSA dollars going for $150!! Many of the dealers here are waiting for the Houston show to sell what they picked up here. >>



    This time I didn't really experience this problem with checks. The last few years at this show there have typically been two or three dealers who refuse to accept checks but this year every dealer I purchased from accepted my checks with open arms.
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  • MadMartyMadMarty Posts: 16,697 ✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>Sorry Al, no chicken this year... He head you weren't going to make it and went into a deep depression!

    I can say one thing about this show, cash is king! anyone selling coins to dealers wants payment in cash. No checks, no trades, cold hard cashola! Some dealers were picking up some good bargains, GSA dollars going for $150!! Many of the dealers here are waiting for the Houston show to sell what they picked up here. >>



    This time I didn't really experience this problem with checks. The last few years at this show there have typically been two or three dealers who refuse to accept checks but this year every dealer I purchased from accepted my checks with open arms. >>



    It was the other way around. People selling to dealers wanted CASH!
    It is not exactly cheating, I prefer to consider it creative problem solving!!!

  • jdillanejdillane Posts: 2,365 ✭✭✭
    A bit under the weather for the show. Missed Friday altogether. I caught Saturday from about noon till 6:15. IMO, the traffic was a tad thinner than the last couple years but I overheard several conversations between dealers that the show had been good to them. I floated a DBHE dollar in PCGS plastic seeking cash or partial trade. I knocked nearly 15% off PCGS price for my ask. Probably could have done a trade with Gene Bruder for some nice CBH's and a nice 1798/7PCGS 50 dime but I felt lousy today and did not make it back.

    Only made one purchase, a raw CBH. I enjoy this show and regret that I missed Sunday and Friday. Heck, I am less than half an hour away!

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