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  • SCDHunterSCDHunter Posts: 686 ✭✭✭
    I’ve seen one coin with a fingerprint that I would like to have for my collection - And I would pay a handsome premium for it.

    In the documentary “Ship of Gold”, one of the recovered gold coins shows a very distinct fingerprint. The fingerprint is a witness to the contemporary handling of the coin by someone who lived 150 years ago, not the mishandling by a collector years later. That, in my book, is cool!image
  • HTubbsHTubbs Posts: 4,138 ✭✭✭
    DoubleEagle59,I've always found fingerprints rather demeaning to coin. Unfortunately in my personal opinion, I find the coin you posted rather unattractive solely because of the fingerprints.
  • HTubbsHTubbs Posts: 4,138 ✭✭✭


    << <i>I’ve seen one coin with a fingerprint that I would like to have for my collection - And I would pay a handsome premium for it.

    In the documentary “Ship of Gold”, one of the recovered gold coins shows a very distinct fingerprint. The fingerprint is a witness to the contemporary handling of the coin by someone who lived 150 years ago, not the mishandling by a collector years later. That, in my book, is cool!image >>



    That would make it rather interesting! A little creepy perhaps as well, looking at a long-dead person's fingerprint...
  • DorkGirlDorkGirl Posts: 9,994 ✭✭✭
    imageimage

    Hate them....
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  • DoubleEagle59DoubleEagle59 Posts: 8,377 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>DoubleEagle59,I've always found fingerprints rather demeaning to coin. Unfortunately in my personal opinion, I find the coin you posted rather unattractive solely because of the fingerprints. >>



    I would agree that the picture I posted (the only one I had available) is not a good example of a fingerprint that I like.

    The picture of the toned Roosevelt dime that Goldbully posted is more in line with a fingerprint that I find to my liking.
    "Gold is money, and nothing else" (JP Morgan, 1912)

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  • HTubbsHTubbs Posts: 4,138 ✭✭✭


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    << <i>DoubleEagle59,I've always found fingerprints rather demeaning to coin. Unfortunately in my personal opinion, I find the coin you posted rather unattractive solely because of the fingerprints. >>



    I would agree that the picture I posted (the only one I had available) is not a good example of a fingerprint that I like.

    The picture of the toned Roosevelt dime that Goldbully posted is more in line with a fingerprint that I find to my liking. >>



    I agree with you, the dime isn't half bad. Still not what I prefer, but to each his own. image
  • farthingfarthing Posts: 3,294 ✭✭✭
    Heck, some of my favorite coins in my collection have inking on them, why would I turn up my nose to a 200+ year old coin with a fingerprint on it?
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  • Looks like someone started a post about this very subject wanting to see photos of them called "POST A COIN..." I posted mine, though I am not a big fan of fingerprints on coins unless it can be proven that it was someone famous! image
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  • PerryHallPerryHall Posts: 46,838 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>I doubt whether any one here who claims to like prints
    actually applied their own prints to their coins ON PURPOSE >>



    Are you saying they don't really like finger prints?image

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  • DoubleEagle59DoubleEagle59 Posts: 8,377 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>I doubt whether any one here who claims to like prints
    actually applied their own prints to their coins ON PURPOSE >>



    Are you saying they don't really like finger prints?image >>



    I don't follow your logic.

    Then people who like toned coins should artificially tone all their white coins?
    "Gold is money, and nothing else" (JP Morgan, 1912)

    "“Those who sacrifice liberty for security/safety deserve neither.“(Benjamin Franklin)

    "I only golf on days that end in 'Y'" (DE59)
  • coinkatcoinkat Posts: 23,836 ✭✭✭✭✭
    It really depends... fingerprints need to be looked at on a coin by coin basis.

    Edited to add: We need to see the date of the Canadian George VI coin

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  • lcoopielcoopie Posts: 8,873 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>I doubt whether any one here who claims to like prints
    actually applied their own prints to their coins ON PURPOSE >>



    Are you saying they don't really like finger prints?image >>



    Yes.
    Maybe they don't mind them that much,
    but like... I am not so sure.

    LCoopie = Les
  • PerryHallPerryHall Posts: 46,838 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>

    << <i>I doubt whether any one here who claims to like prints
    actually applied their own prints to their coins ON PURPOSE >>



    Are you saying they don't really like finger prints?image >>



    I don't follow your logic.

    Then people who like toned coins should artificially tone all their white coins? >>



    Have you ever seen an artificial finger print?image


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    "Paper money eventually returns to its intrinsic value---zero."----Voltaire
    "Everything you say should be true, but not everything true should be said."----Voltaire

  • veryfineveryfine Posts: 1,763 ✭✭✭
    I would not listen to the kooks who make collectors feel that the slightest hint of a fingerprint is as bad as placing your coin on train tracks.
    This is an oddball contamination issue that some weirdoes in this hobby never let go. They probably wash their hands fifty times a day and bathe in hydrogen peroxide before getting dressed.

    What they are really doing is contributing to the "I gotta dip this sucker or my coin is worthless" nonsense. I wouldn't be surprised if they dip themselves on a regular basis. How clueless!image


  • << <i>I would not listen to the kooks who make collectors feel that the slightest hint of a fingerprint is as bad as placing your coin on train tracks.
    This is an oddball contamination issue that some weirdoes in this hobby never let go. They probably wash their hands fifty times a day and bathe in hydrogen peroxide before getting dressed.

    What they are really doing is contributing to the "I gotta dip this sucker or my coin is worthless" nonsense. I wouldn't be surprised if they dip themselves on a regular basis. How clueless!image >>



    Have you ever tried to sell a coin with a fingerprint on it?
  • veryfineveryfine Posts: 1,763 ✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>I would not listen to the kooks who make collectors feel that the slightest hint of a fingerprint is as bad as placing your coin on train tracks.
    This is an oddball contamination issue that some weirdoes in this hobby never let go. They probably wash their hands fifty times a day and bathe in hydrogen peroxide before getting dressed.

    What they are really doing is contributing to the "I gotta dip this sucker or my coin is worthless" nonsense. I wouldn't be surprised if they dip themselves on a regular basis. How clueless!image >>



    Have you ever tried to sell a coin with a fingerprint on it? >>


    Yes, and a level headed buyer knows that there are fingerprints and THERE ARE FINGERPRINTS. It depends on size, location, and the assigned grade. Here are some photos of my PCGS MS-63 1921 Peace dollar. As you can see, there is a fingerprint on the reverse. Based on your question, my coin would be a tough sell or would need to be discounted. Is that what you're inferring?
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  • veryfineveryfine Posts: 1,763 ✭✭✭
    I could have dipped that 21 Peace dollar, which would have probably masked the reverse fingerprint. I decided to enjoy it in all its original glory. Was I wrong? I don't think so, and given the assigned grade of MS-63, I doubt I could do better.

    I accept the fingerprint as one of the many negatives that an MS-63 possesses.
  • DoubleEagle59DoubleEagle59 Posts: 8,377 ✭✭✭✭✭
    here's one from another forum member that illustrates a pleasing fingerprint on a copper coin.

    I know I'll hear disagreements with my opinion, but in the long run, that's what's good about this hobby.

    I could be mistaken, but I believe it's a PCGS ms64.

    image
    "Gold is money, and nothing else" (JP Morgan, 1912)

    "“Those who sacrifice liberty for security/safety deserve neither.“(Benjamin Franklin)

    "I only golf on days that end in 'Y'" (DE59)
  • darktonedarktone Posts: 8,437 ✭✭✭


    << <i>here's one from another forum member that illustrates a pleasing fingerprint on a copper coin.

    I know I'll hear disagreements with my opinion, but in the long run, that's what's good about this hobby.

    I could be mistaken, but I believe it's a PCGS ms64.

    image >>



    I would love to own such a nice coin. image
  • veryfineveryfine Posts: 1,763 ✭✭✭
    darktone,
    I enabled my PM, but never used this feature in here, so I'm a little green.
    I wonder how you would answer ColonialCoinUnion's interesting question, asking if I've ever tried to sell a fingerprinted coin. He is implying that it's a major negative for the discerning collector.
    My answer is: sometimes yes and sometimes no.

    My MS-63 21 Peace dollar shown here is an easy sell, in my humble opinion. I like to thing that it is an above average coin for the grade.
  • PerryHallPerryHall Posts: 46,838 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>"Am I the only one who likes fingerprints?" >>



    No. The guys on CSI like them. image

    Worry is the interest you pay on a debt you may not owe.
    "Paper money eventually returns to its intrinsic value---zero."----Voltaire
    "Everything you say should be true, but not everything true should be said."----Voltaire

  • darktonedarktone Posts: 8,437 ✭✭✭


    << <i>darktone,
    I enabled my PM, but never used this feature in here, so I'm a little green.
    I wonder how you would answer ColonialCoinUnion's interesting question, asking if I've ever tried to sell a fingerprinted coin. He is implying that it's a major negative for the discerning collector.
    My answer is: sometimes yes and sometimes no.

    My MS-63 21 Peace dollar shown here is an easy sell, in my humble opinion. I like to thing that it is an above average coin for the grade. >>



    I just wanted to let you know that you had your PM's turned off. I think on newer coins fingerprints make them harder to sell but the older stuff it does make as much of a difference. the part I like is I can buy them cheaper and when I sell them I can offer a cheaper price too.


  • << <i>My MS-63 21 Peace dollar shown here is an easy sell, in my humble opinion. I like to thing that it is an above average coin for the grade. >>



    Your 1921 Peace $1 print is so unobtrusive that it's a non-issue in my opinion, the coin looks great overall and I suspect there would be no issue selling it.

    But is this what the OP had in mind when he posted that Georgivs VI coin?
  • coinpicturescoinpictures Posts: 5,345 ✭✭✭
    I normally dislike fingerprints on a coin, but here's one that has been HEAVILY fingerprinted that I actually
    don't mind, due to the vibrant toning:

    image
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  • DoubleEagle59DoubleEagle59 Posts: 8,377 ✭✭✭✭✭
    here's a few more detailed pics of the 1857 FE cent.

    It's the double die variety.

    image

    image

    image
    "Gold is money, and nothing else" (JP Morgan, 1912)

    "“Those who sacrifice liberty for security/safety deserve neither.“(Benjamin Franklin)

    "I only golf on days that end in 'Y'" (DE59)
  • veryfineveryfine Posts: 1,763 ✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>My MS-63 21 Peace dollar shown here is an easy sell, in my humble opinion. I like to thing that it is an above average coin for the grade. >>



    Your 1921 Peace $1 print is so unobtrusive that it's a non-issue in my opinion, the coin looks great overall and I suspect there would be no issue selling it.

    But is this what the OP had in mind when he posted that Georgivs VI coin? >>


    Yes, my fingerprint discussion is a bit off-topic, so your point is well taken.
  • BBNBBN Posts: 3,761 ✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>here's one from another forum member that illustrates a pleasing fingerprint on a copper coin.

    I know I'll hear disagreements with my opinion, but in the long run, that's what's good about this hobby.

    I could be mistaken, but I believe it's a PCGS ms64.

    image >>



    I would love to own such a nice coin. image >>



    I think they're kind of neat on coins that old. Might be the only human impression of that person who left this earth 100-150 years ago. If that's an original print from, say, 1857-58 my next question would be who were they? What did they do for a living? What transaction did they make when they received this coin? That kind of history. If only that fingerprint could talk.

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