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Somebody's paying "this" for THIS? Are you kidding me?

RonBurgundyRonBurgundy Posts: 5,491 ✭✭✭
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I know waverly82 has been discussed at length on this board, but the current bid on this '66 Mantle caused me to smack my head against my monitor. Wow, there are some stupid people out there. Or.........



66 "Mint" Mantle
Ron Burgundy

Buying Vintage, all sports.
Buying Woody Hayes, Les Horvath, Vic Janowicz, and Jesse Owens autographed items

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  • bigwillibigwilli Posts: 910
    Is it me or does it seem like he's leaving a lot of money on the table by being "afraid" to get his cards graded
    A collector of all things Braves
    Always looking for Chipper Jones cards.
    Im a very focused collector of cards from 1909 - 2012...LOL
  • rube26105rube26105 Posts: 10,225 ✭✭
    eah,either that or hes too cheap tooimage hes only a platinum powerseller, id have em graded that for sure
  • diamondmandiamondman Posts: 2,020
    looks like a PSA 9 or 10 to me , lucky for me I was getting drunk or I would have bid 4,000 , then on another note, well I can't remember
    it's good to be old and senile. time for my medication and shot of moonshine image
  • YankeeefanYankeeefan Posts: 525
    Or maybe he doesn't get the card graded because the top border looks good, but the bottom border is... well is that a tilt in the bottom border?

    I bought a couple of cards from the person in question... and let's just say they graded N1 image
  • athleticsfanathleticsfan Posts: 253 ✭✭✭


    << <i>Wow, there are some stupid people out there. >>



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    Haden't noticed that before. I would never buy from this character.
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  • rube26105rube26105 Posts: 10,225 ✭✭
    <it's good to be old and senile. time for my medication and shot of moonshine>

    yer right jim, it is image
    ill be 62 thanksgiving, i was the turkey,now officially a senior citizen thursimage

  • YankeeefanYankeeefan Posts: 525
    An early Happy B-Day to you! image
  • rube26105rube26105 Posts: 10,225 ✭✭
    thanx, i think afte ya turn 62 ya just have sturdays everyday,at least i have since 1992 when i retired image
    oh what a birthday it will be image
  • yankeeno7yankeeno7 Posts: 9,253 ✭✭✭
    Waverly....ugghhh..dont get me started...
  • leadoff4leadoff4 Posts: 2,392 ✭
    Yes, "ignorance is bliss". I just had a PSA 6 of this card that ended for about $130. This one looks very comparable to it.
  • frankhardyfrankhardy Posts: 8,168 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Another thing that comes to my mind is that it is against Ebay policy to advertise other auctions in a listing unless you are very generic like "please see my other auctions". I got a bunch pulled one time because I advertised that I had a few specific cards for sale in other auctions.

    Shane

  • ArchStantonArchStanton Posts: 1,182 ✭✭✭
    I have encountered waaay too many trimmed cards lately to pay such loud prices for raw cards on ebay.

    I'm not saying anything about this seller. I've never dealt with him. His stuff unsually exceeds my elcheapo sensibilities.
    Collector of 1976 Topps baseball for some stupid reason.
    Collector of Pittsburgh Pirates cards for a slightly less stupid reason.
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  • gumbyfangumbyfan Posts: 5,168 ✭✭✭


    << <i>Another thing that comes to my mind is that it is against Ebay policy to advertise other auctions in a listing unless you are very generic like "please see my other auctions". I got a bunch pulled one time because I advertised that I had a few specific cards for sale in other auctions. >>



    He's also requesting Paypal, Money Orders or Cashier's Check...another policy violation.
  • MBMiller25MBMiller25 Posts: 6,057 ✭✭


    << <i>looks like a PSA 9 or 10 to me >>



    Thats not a PSA 9 or PSA 10. Check out the borders L to R.
  • thunderdanthunderdan Posts: 3,036 ✭✭✭
    I've bought from Eric before and in my opinion, his card description is very over-inflated. His cards have always graded, but at 2-3 levels lower than his description. This card will be lucky to get a 7.

    I'm sure he knows this and ends up making a lot more money simply selling the card raw.
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  • zippyzippy Posts: 399
    This dude can't grade
    This is why grading services are thriving
    Look at all the o/c cards
    Cards with diamond cuts
    buy these & get them graded & u will be very sorry
    Ever wonder why hi grade cards aren't graded?
    Because they ain't Hi grade!!
  • sayheykid54sayheykid54 Posts: 779 ✭✭
    I'm shocked that with feedback over 13700 in the last 12 months they have yet to receive a single negative.
  • sagardsagard Posts: 1,901 ✭✭✭


    << <i>I've bought from Eric before and in my opinion, his card description is very over-inflated. His cards have always graded, but at 2-3 levels lower than his description. This card will be lucky to get a 7.

    I'm sure he knows this and ends up making a lot more money simply selling the card raw. >>




    You were very lucky with your experience.
  • yankeeno7yankeeno7 Posts: 9,253 ✭✭✭


    << <i>I'm shocked that with feedback over 13700 in the last 12 months they have yet to receive a single negative. >>



    That is because by the time they get their cards graded and they come back trimmed or recolored, its too late to give feedback. And also, I think he caters heavily to raw collectors.
  • justmichaeljustmichael Posts: 1,048
    Barry can you give me a quick run down on waverly?
    Thanks
    Mike
  • markj111markj111 Posts: 2,921 ✭✭✭
    My advice-do not buy 62s, 63s, or 71s from Waverly. If you buy only cards he calls mint, you will probably get a PSA 7 card, sometimes an 8. I have done OK in his auctions, but I probably win about 10% of the cards I bid on.
  • digicatdigicat Posts: 8,551 ✭✭
    The guy basically buys collections then sells them card by card in the raw. I doubt he trims cards though... he probably gets them that way. I've picked up some nice vintage commons from him in the past, as well as a single badly re-colored card that was listed as ex-mt, which he refunded me for.

    He's got a pretty wackey cult following that bids up his cards though, hence the high prices.
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  • WinPitcherWinPitcher Posts: 27,726 ✭✭✭
    He gets top dollar for raw cards, he has a no questions asked return policy, that is why
    he gets no negatives.


    I too do not think he does the trimming/recoloring.


    Steve
    Good for you.
  • RonBurgundyRonBurgundy Posts: 5,491 ✭✭✭
    I have heard that his "no questions asked" return policy is actually much more difficult than that.
    Ron Burgundy

    Buying Vintage, all sports.
    Buying Woody Hayes, Les Horvath, Vic Janowicz, and Jesse Owens autographed items
  • digicatdigicat Posts: 8,551 ✭✭


    << <i>I have heard that his "no questions asked" return policy is actually much more difficult than that. >>



    I've used it once, and had no problem. However, he only refunds the purchase price, not the shipping. That ticked me off a bit when I shipped the re-colored card back to him.
    My Giants collection want list

    WTB: 2001 Leaf Rookies & Stars Longevity: Ryan Jensen #/25
  • WinPitcherWinPitcher Posts: 27,726 ✭✭✭
    I too had no problem the one time I needed to return a card. I must also add that
    it was my fault too.

    Steve
    Good for you.
  • fur72fur72 Posts: 2,348 ✭✭
    I have had no issues buying raw from him. that card looks sharp. secret santa *Cough*
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  • thunderdanthunderdan Posts: 3,036 ✭✭✭
    He does have a no questions asked return policy. I agree with Steve that this is likely how he keeps his feedback rating high. Nonetheless, his descriptions are super inflated in my experience. He sure does like his Bible, too.

    I've never bought any '62s or '71s from him. I did buy a 59 aaron that came back an 8. Otherwise, the half dozen or so others listed as mint all came back 6s and 7s. No trimmed or recolored cards from him.

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  • SDavidSDavid Posts: 1,584 ✭✭
    Insane

    A lot more insanity on his other '66 Topps ending tonight.
  • MBMiller25MBMiller25 Posts: 6,057 ✭✭
    Yea I would agree thats pretty crazy for a RAW team card.
  • SDavidSDavid Posts: 1,584 ✭✭
    We should start consigning our nm+ vintage raw with this guy instead of sending it to PSA.
  • WinPitcherWinPitcher Posts: 27,726 ✭✭✭
    wow he is getting psa 8 numbers for his raw.

    I had my eye on a few high numbers from this set but decided I'd lose and all I'd do
    is inflate his numbers even more.


    Steve
    Good for you.
  • DboneesqDboneesq Posts: 18,219 ✭✭
    $400.00 for that card? $550+ for a Mantle that may be o/c? WOW! I should have given him my entire collection to sell instead of consigning it to Mastro over the summer! LOL

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    Doug
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    Doug

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