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Does MSN Cashback work using best offer?

KISHU1KISHU1 Posts: 2,188 ✭✭✭
Does MSN Cashback work using best offer instead of the BIN?

Thanks

Frank

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  • DennisHDennisH Posts: 14,010 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Great question! I've wondered that myself.
    When in doubt, don't.
  • I do not have the answer to your exact question, but if you want to just email the seller an offer through the ask the seller a question, they can just change the buy-it now price and it should work then.
    imageQuid pro quo. Yes or no?
  • derrybderryb Posts: 37,646 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Been afraid to try it myself. Go ahead and try it, but be sure to let the rest of us know the outcome. image

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  • ctf_error_coinsctf_error_coins Posts: 15,433 ✭✭✭✭✭
    This is what I did. I had no idea if it would work so I emailed the seller with an offer and told him that if he accepted my offer, that he change his buy-it-now price. He did, then I got the cashback on top of it and it turned out to be a pretty sweet deal. Never hurts to ask, ErrorsOnCoins
  • Weather11amWeather11am Posts: 2,060 ✭✭✭
    NO. It does not work. It has to be a BIN.
  • KISHU1KISHU1 Posts: 2,188 ✭✭✭
    I made an offer on a Saint directly to the seller but he would not budge, saying it was an amazing deal! O well I will have to keep hunting.

    Thanks for the info

    Frank
  • pitbosspitboss Posts: 8,643 ✭✭✭

    Email the seller and agree on a price. The seller can them make his price a buy it now and your problem is solved.
  • I wish it would...it's annoying to have to email the sellers; most of them think I'm a freak and respond with "just make an offer" or "lets do it outside the ebay system and I can give a better deal". BTW, did anyone notice that the re-sell restriction had been specifically lifted, and we're no longer restricted to 12 buys, but that had been replaced with the fact that you can't use more than 1 ebay account.
  • derrybderryb Posts: 37,646 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i> BTW, did anyone notice that the re-sell restriction had been specifically lifted, and we're no longer restricted to 12 buys, but that had been replaced with the fact that you can't use more than 1 ebay account. >>



    That's the third time I have seen ebay change their cashback rules. It used to have limits per account, now they are per person.

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  • GrumpyEdGrumpyEd Posts: 4,749 ✭✭✭

    Seems like too many changes and loopholes. image
    Ed
  • PlacidPlacid Posts: 11,299 ✭✭✭
    Where are the new terms posted? The terms on eBay still say 12 per eBay account image

    http://pages.ebay.com/cashbackoffer/terms.html
  • GrumpyEdGrumpyEd Posts: 4,749 ✭✭✭
    Still see the same 12 limit too but they did add that the $2500 limit is per person.

    Where did anyone see the limit of 12 is gone?

    I wonder if the $2500 limit is a rollong year or if it resets in 2009?


    terms link
    Ed
  • CoinlearnerCoinlearner Posts: 2,499 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i> BTW, did anyone notice that the re-sell restriction had been specifically lifted, and we're no longer restricted to 12 buys, but that had been replaced with the fact that you can't use more than 1 ebay account. >>



    I've read it over twice and see no changes. 12 per account and 2500 limit from Micosoft per person. Do not know why they may change it,as many people buy smaller purchases and use cashback up quickly on one account.They will have to go off ebay for shopping to use up their cashback limit.
  • Here are the terms that were in my ebay email from a purchase on Friday...

    eBay Terms
    for Live Search Cashback Rewards

    Your participation in the Microsoft Live Search cashback program ("Cashback Program"), is subject to the Microsoft Service Agreement at http://tou.live.com (the "Program Terms"), and these eBay Terms. In the event of a conflict between the Program Terms and the eBay Terms, the eBay Terms shall apply.

    1. Cashback Program
    The Microsoft Live Search Cashback Program provides cashback for up to 12 qualifying purchases per account on www.ebay.com. The amount of cashback will be determined by eBay, specified at the time of checkout on the "purchase review page" and equal to a percentage of the sale price (excluding shipping and handling fees, insurance fees and other such fees) ("Cashback Rewards"). The maximum amount of Cashback Rewards per qualifying purchase is $200.00 USD. In addition, all Cashback Rewards (including Cashback Rewards earned in connection with purchases made on websites other than www.eBay.com) are subject to the annual $2,500.00 per person cap set forth in the Program Terms.

    2. Eligibility
    You are eligible to participate in the Cashback Program as long as you: (a) are at least 18 years of age and reside in the United States, (b) have a confirmed US eBay.com account in good standing, (c) have a verified US PayPal account in good standing, (d) have a Microsoft Cashback Program Account in good standing; and (e) comply with the eBay Terms and the Program Terms. In order for your accounts to be in good standing, they must not be limited or suspended.

    3. Qualifying Purchase
    To make a qualifying purchase, you must do all of the following:

    * Search for an eBay.com item on www.live.com.

    * Click on an eBay.com sponsored advertisement on www.live.com that has the cashback icon a gold circle with a dollar sign, next to the advertisement. When you click on the advertisement, you will begin an online session. Sponsored advertisements typically appear at the top or along the right hand side of the page of a www.live.com search results page in a shaded or colored area of the page.

    * Purchase an eligible eBay.com Buy-It-Now item using PayPal within 60 minutes of the time you began the online session. Cashback Rewards will apply only to the first eligible item you commit to buy during an online session. You may make only one qualifying purchase per online session.

    * To make additional qualifying purchases, you must repeat each of these steps including initiating a new search on www.live.com.

    4. Receiving Cashback Rewards
    After your first eligible purchase is completed, you must go to My Messages on eBay.com and look for a message from eBay with "cashback" in the subject line. Click the "Get Cashback" link or button in the message to set up a Cashback Program account with Microsoft by providing all information required by Microsoft (or, if you already have a Cashback Program account, log into your account in order to associate your eBay purchases with that account).

    Once you have created a Cashback Program account and have logged in to associate your eBay purchases with your account as described above, the Cashback Rewards will be available in your Cashback Program account approximately sixty (60) days after you pay for your qualifying purchase. PayPal in its discretion may decide to pay your Cashback Rewards more quickly on a case by case basis. Cashback rewards are issued to the PayPal account you used to make the qualifying purchase on eBay.com.

    5. Limitations
    Only certain items selected by eBay from time to time in its sole discretion will be eligible for Cashback Rewards. eBay will notify you on the purchase review page of the Buy-It-Now transaction process if the item you wish to purchase is not eligible. Please review the purchase review page carefully before you commit to buy an item. Please note, the following will always be ineligible for Cashback Rewards: purchases that are completed on www.express.ebay.com or www.half.ebay.com; purchases of automobiles or other vehicles; purchases of real estate. Cashback Rewards cannot be transferred or applied to multiple eBay.com accounts.

    Purchases on eBay.com of gift certificates, gift cards and items acquired for resale will be eligible for Cashback Rewards. eBay may permit you to combine Cashback Rewards with other eBay promotions, coupons, or gift certificates. With the exception of eBay promotions, coupons and gift certificates, Cashback Rewards cannot be combined with any other offer on purchases on www.eBay.com. eBay shall determine in its sole discretion whether your purchase is a qualifying purchase under the eBay Terms. PayPal may disqualify transactions or remove previously paid cash rewards from your PayPal account if you return or cancel a qualifying purchase, participate in any fraud or abuse relating to the Cashback Program (including conducting "sham" transactions or otherwise colluding with merchants, or otherwise), or fail to meet the Program Terms or these eBay Terms. In the event that you receive Cashback Rewards for a purchase that is later determined to be an ineligible purchase, you provide PayPal with the right and authority to remove the Cashback Rewards from your PayPal account, even if it means that your PayPal account will have a negative balance for which you will be liable.

    Live Search cashback is a Microsoft Corporation program. Cashback Rewards are funded and paid by Microsoft. Neither eBay nor PayPal have any obligations to you regarding Cashback Rewards or your participation in the Cashback Program except as set forth in these eBay Terms. eBay is the official time keeper for determining whether your purchase is made within 60 minutes of the time you initiate an online session. You hereby agree to release eBay Inc. and PayPal, Inc. from any claims, demands and damages arising out of or in any way connected to your participation in the Cashback Program. In addition, you hereby agree to release Microsoft from any claims, demands and damages arising out of the eBay Terms. eBay provides Microsoft with limited information about your eligible purchase (such as the date, time, amount, and item description) when you apply for a Cashback Reward. Microsoft will use this information only to process and manage your Cashback Rewards, and not for any other purpose. eBay may change these terms and conditions from time to time by posting revised terms and conditions on www.eBay.com, and all such changes will be effective when posted.
  • GrumpyEdGrumpyEd Posts: 4,749 ✭✭✭
    Rob,

    It still says 12 per account and doesn't say only 1 ebay account.

    Where did you see this:




    << <i>BTW, did anyone notice that the re-sell restriction had been specifically lifted, and we're no longer restricted to 12 buys, but that had been replaced with the fact that you can't use more than 1 ebay account >>

    Ed
  • sbeverlysbeverly Posts: 962 ✭✭✭
    I do not have the answer to your exact question, but if you want to just email the seller an offer through the ask the seller a question, they can just change the buy-it now price and it should work then.

    I had a seller do this for me today. Works like a charm.
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  • Here's another version of the terms I found:

    17. Live Search Cashback.
    You can participate in the Live Search cashback service if you are 18 years old, reside in the United States and satisfy the requirements described in this contract and at the Live Search cashback website (http://search.live.com/cashback). Live Search cashback is a service for you to accumulate rewards for making qualifying purchases from participating stores. These rewards may be redeemed later for cash or via other payment instrument that you select for your cashback account.

    You may earn up to Two Thousand Five Hundred U.S. Dollars ($2,500.00) of cashback rewards in a calendar year. You may earn Live Search cashback rewards on purchases that you complete in the same web browsing session after clicking on advertisements or listings in the Live Search service or the Live Search cashback service. Eligible advertisements will be marked with the Live Search cashback logo. You will not earn cashback rewards on purchases where (a) you open the store's web site in a different web browser; (b) your browser is not configured to accept cookies; (c) the purchase is not completed in the same web browsing session (not to exceed 24 hours) initiated by clicking on the eligible advertisement or listing; (d) the order is later cancelled or the goods or services are later returned; (e) the store does not report the purchase to Microsoft; (f) the goods or services are acquired for resale or other business purposes; (g) you also use a separate discount or coupon; or (h) you exceed the annual monetary cap on cashback rewards. Live Search cashback rewards are not available on purchases of gift cards or gift certificates or on purchases you make from yourself or entities that you control or in collusion with other people.

    There may be additional limitations on purchases on certain merchant sites, and those limitations will be disclosed on the merchant site. Your participation in the Live Search cashback service on such merchant sites will be subject to these terms and conditions as well as any additional ones disclosed on the merchant site. In the event of a conflict between any of these terms and conditions and those disclosed on the merchant site, the ones disclosed on the merchant site will apply and control. To participate in the service you must set up a Live Search cashback account at https://cashbackaccount.search.live.com/cashback/welcome.aspx by providing all of the required registration information. You must keep this account information up to date, accurate and secure. You may not barter, trade or otherwise exchange your account or maintain more than one account.

    We will describe the Live Search cashback rewards available for associated qualifying purchases. Within two days after a qualifying purchase is reported to us, we will list the purchase in your account with a status of "pending." The purchase will stay in pending status for a period of up to 60 days (although for certain merchants, the period can extend up to 90 days) to account for returns, refunds, fraud and other processing issues. After this point, if the purchase is eligible for rewards, it will be marked as "available" in your account and the associated rewards will be eligible for redemption as described below. You must ensure that we properly post rewards to your account. If you believe that you have earned rewards that are not posted to your account, we will not consider posting them to your account unless you contact us within six months after the date of the associated purchase. We may require reasonable documentation to support your claim.

    Live Search cashback rewards have no monetary value until the associated purchases are approved and you make a proper redemption request. You may request redemptions from your account, subject to then-current minimum redemption requirements. Redemptions for cash payments are subject to section 8 above. There may be additional limitations for redeeming rewards on purchases from certain merchant sites, and those limitations will be disclosed on the merchant site. We may offer additional redemption options. You are responsible for any tax liability from your participation in the service.

    Microsoft may disqualify transactions, seek return of previously paid cashback rewards, refuse redemptions and/or close your account at any time if you participate in any fraud or abuse relating to the service (including conducting "sham" transactions or otherwise colluding with merchants), make any misrepresentation in connection with your participation in the service or do not comply with this contract. Microsoft also may close your account if it has been inactive for 12 months (i.e., no qualifying purchases or redemption of rewards during the 12-month period). Accrued but unredeemed Live Search cashback rewards in accounts that are closed will be returned to Microsoft. <<<(this is where avoiding the "save $200 with cashback!" auctions should be avoided, IMO)

    Advertisers, merchants and service providers for the Live Search cashback service, while beneficiaries of the disclaimers and limitations of liability in sections 20 and 21 below, have no obligations to you for the service or under this contract.
  • GrumpyEdGrumpyEd Posts: 4,749 ✭✭✭
    Rob,

    I think the second one you listed is for live search.

    They allow as many purchases as you can make up to $2500 if you buy from the stores in the msn live search (most are lower percent than ebay rebates 4-10%) but the ones on ebay are the ones where you must use ebays terms and that limits it to 12 per account. The combination of everything is limited to $2500 per person.

    BTW, you can get coins on live search but not much selection and you can use this search to see them, it's set for PCGS items:


    click the 10% link not the ebay link
    Ed
  • pitbosspitboss Posts: 8,643 ✭✭✭

    Bump fo grumpys link for those of yoy that can't figure uou how to get there.

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