Help on Crown Patterns...

ajbauman

I'm looking for more information on two Silver crown patterns.

1. George V, 1911 Sterling silver Pattern Proof Crown - Bare head of George V and the St. George & Dragon reverse
2. WILLIAM IV 1837 SILVER GEORGE & DRAGON PATTERN CROWN

I'm looking for more information in general on these coins. Pictures, mintages, values, ect...

Are these pieces often copied (e.g. fake)?

Anybody know how to tell of they are authentic patterns?

Thanks for any help!!

trozau

Are these from the Donald R. Golder fantasy patterns of 1999 (they read like they are)?

ajbauman

I'm actually not sure what you are referring to... I was looking at these:

Coin 1:





Coin 2:

trozau

<< <i>I'm actually not sure what you are referring to... I was looking at these:

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Notice the DRG (Donald R Golder) below George V's truncated neck?

Quote from an eBay seller: "In 1999, a numismatic millenium project was proposed for a legal tender coin series creating a collection of "what if" British and British Colonial coins which could have existed but have always remained gaps in the coinage annals. The project was never realized, but the high quality portraits by British sculptor Donald R. Golder (DRG) were used in a low mintage, privately issued collection. Mintages ranged from 250 to a maximum of 1000 coins struck to prooflike standards. All dies have now been rendered unusable and none of these magnificent pattern coins will ever be reissued."

MrEureka

Here's a 1910 that's actually real!

ajbauman

Thanks guys...I thought that these appeared a little too modern.

So basically these are fantasy patterns that aren't worth anything but their silver content?

Doogy

<< <i>Thanks guys...I thought that these appeared a little too modern.

So basically these are fantasy patterns that aren't worth anything but their silver content? >>




They are indeed, however some would give them a modest premium over their silver content. They are beautiful, but they're certainly not valuable.

ajbauman

I like the George and the Dragon design and I would like to purchase a few in that vein in Silver.

Does anybody know of an online listing that shows the coins that I should look for (e.g. Years, countries, etc...)?

The best place to purchase them?

7Jaguars

Yea, contrived. I must say that I did get a couple of the "unique" gold proofs as they sold for pretty close to bullion as I recall...

trozau

<< <i>Yea, contrived. I must say that I did get a couple of the "unique" gold proofs as they sold for pretty close to bullion as I recall... >>


Gold? Some pics, please.

7Jaguars

OK, that is my weak point, pics. I got the "Wreath" crown in gold and the 1910 St. George in Matte and Reg. Proof. What I am going to try to do is play with my stupid digital camera and see if I can figure out downloads and get them on here.