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Anyone deal with fake gold buffalos in fake slabs?

I just bought a PCGS graded 1 ounce buff on EBay and have heard lots of talk of fake gold coins in fake PCGS slabs. Are there any diagnostics that can distinguish a real from a fake?

Thanks,

Perry
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  • RyGuyRyGuy Posts: 1,462 ✭✭✭
    Fake PCGS slabs do not stack with their authentic counterparts. Also, the hologram on the back of the slab is usually of poor quality and prone to wearing away.

    Ryan
  • notwilightnotwilight Posts: 12,864 ✭✭✭
    I am one of the bigger sellers of PCGS buffalos on ebay. I haven't heard any talk of this and my buyers haven't been asking probing questions. Of course I have good photos and good feedback. But I'd like to know where you heard this talk to I can get involved. thanks, jerry (Carlsbad Eagle Trader [and Buffalo trader too])

    ps modern gold mint products are not where I would expect to see counterfeiters putting their efforts.
  • derrybderryb Posts: 37,713 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Perry,
    I believe the rumblings you have heard concern counterfeits from China (mostly older silver coins). I haven't heard of any counterfeits (especially in PCGS slabs) of the gold buffalos. Your best insurance on ebay is a reputable seller with perfect feedback. Maybe someone here with a PCGS slabbed one ounce gold buffalo can post a precise weight of the slabbed coin to help you have some kind of measuring stick. Another aid (not a guarantee) is to check the "cert number" on the PCGS website:
    Cert Number Lookup

    Anytime you seriously doubt a PCGS slab as being genuine, don't hesitate to post a detailed pic of it here in the forums. Lots of PCGS slab owners here to help you make a judgement.

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  • 19Lyds19Lyds Posts: 26,492 ✭✭✭✭


    << <i>I am one of the bigger sellers of PCGS buffalos on ebay. I haven't heard any talk of this and my buyers haven't been asking probing questions. Of course I have good photos and good feedback. But I'd like to know where you heard this talk to I can get involved. thanks, jerry (Carlsbad Eagle Trader [and Buffalo trader too])

    ps modern gold mint products are not where I would expect to see counterfeiters putting their efforts. >>



    Jerry, fake modern eagles in fake slabs were mentioned in this thread.
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  • Article here with photos on PCGS fake slabs:

    Fake slabs telltale signs
  • UtahCoinUtahCoin Posts: 5,366 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Weigh it....
    I doubt the fake ones would weight the same as a genuine one.
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  • mrearlygoldmrearlygold Posts: 17,858 ✭✭✭
    Poof!

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