I attempted to return an auction lot to Australia according to the stated rules, but even the most experienced person at the post office could not find their way through them. I will hesitate to do anything coin related that involves Australia from here on.
Actually, if you read through the regs, there are many countries that you cannot ship "coins" to. My understanding is that their intent is to stop the ship of cash/currency/coinage that is currently negotiable, *NOT* collectible coinage. Unfortunately everything is so vague and unspecifiied that it really depends on the post office or clerk in question.
Numismatic Collectable would be the most accurate term, and in no way could you be said to be attempting to deceive. I have had coins shipped where the shipper called them "medallions", and I cringe a bit with that as the description. Kudos for refusing to lie! I believe that demonstrate integrity.
I just sent two packages to Australia. Both were worth less than $10US. I placed the coins in an Safe-T mailer then a regular size envelope. No problems.
Gene
Life member #369 of the Royal Canadian Numismatic Association Member of Canadian Association of Token Collectors
Collector of: Canadian coins and pre-confederation tokens Darkside proof/mint sets dated 1960 My Ebay
What's up? I'll tell you what- the post office is wrong.
Dear Scott
Thank you for your email.
Currently, Customs does not prohibit the importation of coins. However, the importation or exportation of Australian or foreign currency amounting to A$10,000 or more must be reported to Customs.
Under customs tariff 9705.00.00 COLLECTIONS AND COLLECTORS' PIECES OF ZOOLOGICAL, BOTANICAL, MINERALOGICAL, ANATOMICAL, HISTORICAL, ARCHAEOLOGICAL, PALAEONTOLOGICAL, ETHNOGRAPHIC OR NUMISMATIC INTEREST attract a duty rate of 'Free'. Please refer to the customs tariff at our website www.customs.gov.au <www.customs.gov.au> by selecting [import export] [customs tariff].
edited to add... based on the above, not only can coins be mailed to Australia, the package you mail them in doesn't need a customs form if it's sent by First Class international mail and weighs less than 16 ounces.
Thanks mrpotatoheadd that does clear this up. I'm mailing this numismatic collectible (an item of numismatic interest) out tomarrow. I believe the fault is probably mine. If I hadn't referred to this numismatic item as a coin the bells and whistles wouldn't have gone off although you'd think one of the postal workers I spoke to would have been through this senerio before.
<< <i>If I hadn't referred to this numismatic item as a coin the bells and whistles wouldn't have gone off... >>
I think you're probably right.
coinpictures already posted: "My understanding is that their intent is to stop the ship of cash/currency/coinage that is currently negotiable, *NOT* collectible coinage."
I believe this is the situation in many cases. A lot of the collectible coins that get sent out of the country are not even money anymore in the sense that they cannot be spent as they are no longer current and have been demonetized by the issuing country.
<< <i> edited to add... based on the above, not only can coins be mailed to Australia, the package you mail them in doesn't need a customs form if it's sent by First Class international mail and weighs less than 16 ounces. >>
If the USPS clerk suggests otherwise, ask them to look at their DMM(Domestic Mail Manual).
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even the most experienced person at the post office could not find their way
through them. I will hesitate to do anything coin related that involves Australia
from here on.
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Ship as a "Numismatic Token" or "Numismatic Collectible".
Never had a problem to AU or NZ.
Dan is right. The intent of the law is to prevent money laundering.
Life member #369 of the Royal Canadian Numismatic Association
Member of Canadian Association of Token Collectors
Collector of:
Canadian coins and pre-confederation tokens
Darkside proof/mint sets dated 1960
My Ebay
Dear Scott
Thank you for your email.
Currently, Customs does not prohibit the importation of coins. However, the
importation or exportation of Australian or foreign currency amounting to
A$10,000 or more must be reported to Customs.
Under customs tariff 9705.00.00 COLLECTIONS AND COLLECTORS' PIECES OF
ZOOLOGICAL, BOTANICAL, MINERALOGICAL, ANATOMICAL, HISTORICAL,
ARCHAEOLOGICAL, PALAEONTOLOGICAL, ETHNOGRAPHIC OR NUMISMATIC INTEREST
attract a duty rate of 'Free'. Please refer to the customs tariff at our
website www.customs.gov.au <www.customs.gov.au> by selecting [import
export] [customs tariff].
Regards
Romeo Prieto
Customs Information & Support Centre
Ph: 1300 363 263
Fax: 02 8339 6714
Website: www.customs.gov.au <www.customs.gov.au> <http://www.customs.gov.au
<http://www.customs.gov.au> >
edited to add... based on the above, not only can coins be mailed to Australia, the package you mail them in doesn't need a customs form if it's sent by First Class international mail and weighs less than 16 ounces.
<< <i>If I hadn't referred to this numismatic item as a coin the bells and whistles wouldn't have gone off... >>
I think you're probably right.
coinpictures already posted: "My understanding is that their intent is to stop the ship of cash/currency/coinage that is currently negotiable, *NOT* collectible coinage."
I believe this is the situation in many cases. A lot of the collectible coins that get sent out of the country are not even money anymore in the sense that they cannot be spent as they are no longer current and have been demonetized by the issuing country.
<< <i>
edited to add... based on the above, not only can coins be mailed to Australia, the package you mail them in doesn't need a customs form if it's sent by First Class international mail and weighs less than 16 ounces. >>
If the USPS clerk suggests otherwise, ask them to look at their DMM(Domestic Mail Manual).
What the Ausie Customs cops are going to pay to have you extradited? Hardly. Besides, they don't open much.
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Tom, formerly in Albuquerque, NM.