Albert Pujols - 2008 NL MVP
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Congrats to Albert Pujols. He was just announced as the 2008 NL MVP.
That goes along with the MLB Player of the Year, NL Most Outstanding Player, Sporting News Player of the Year, Roberto Clemente Award winner, and the Silver Slugger Award for First Base.
Now, to go resurrect that "Howard MVP thread". I am a man of my word!
That goes along with the MLB Player of the Year, NL Most Outstanding Player, Sporting News Player of the Year, Roberto Clemente Award winner, and the Silver Slugger Award for First Base.
Now, to go resurrect that "Howard MVP thread". I am a man of my word!
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You said you were giving me that Pujols RC of yours for free right? Thanks man, you rule!
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Shane
<< <i>Chris,
You said you were giving me that Pujols RC of yours for free right? Thanks man, you rule! >>
I thought we had agreed on a trade for the Ozzie Smith Topps rookie proof for the Pujols rookie? Are you backing out of that?
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A very good choice, I might have switched the runner-up, with the award winner, to emphasize a championship season a little more, however have no problem with 18 out of 32 voters' winning selection.
<< <i>Where's all of those Philly guys? They're awful quite. >>
Are you kidding? You guys can have all the MVP titles you want...I'll take the World Series title over that anytime!
<< <i>Are you kidding? You guys can have all the MVP titles you want...I'll take the World Series title over that anytime! >>
I don't know about kidding, but you should be happy and proud of your team Steve.
<< <i>Congrats to Albert on another MVP season.
<< <i>Are you kidding? You guys can have all the MVP titles you want...I'll take the World Series title over that anytime! >>
I don't know about kidding, but you should be happy and proud of your team Steve. >>
Happy? I've been dancing drunk and naked in the streets of Philly for weeks. I'm surprised i ain't been arrested by now.
Congrats on the votes Albert! You did your team proud when they needed it!
JS
<< <i>Where's all of those Philly guys? They're awful quite. >>
I'm a Phillies fan and though I hoped Howard would get the award, I'm not disappointed in Pujols getting it. Pujols is to me just the best hitter in baseball. Barring injuries, he's on his way to a bigger award, the HOF.
<< <i>Where's all of those Philly guys? They're awful quite. >>
Most of us have jobs where we can't monitor message boards 24/7. Cardinals and Pujols fans tend to be unemployed.
Congrats to Pujols, but the race was much closer than anyone will ever admit.
I will take a World Series Championship anyday of the week over personal awards for a player. This would have just been icing on the cake for one of the greatest Postseason runs of all time.
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<< <i>Where's all of those Philly guys? They're awful quite. >>
Are you kidding? You guys can have all the MVP titles you want...I'll take the World Series title over that anytime! >>
That's what I said in 2006 when the Cardinals won, yet I still wanted the MVP to go to Pujols.
Shane
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<< <i>Where's all of those Philly guys? They're awful quite. >>
Most of us have jobs where we can't monitor message boards 24/7. Cardinals and Pujols fans tend to be unemployed.
Congrats to Pujols, but the race was much closer than anyone will ever admit.
I will take a World Series Championship anyday of the week over personal awards for a player. This would have just been icing on the cake for one of the greatest Postseason runs of all time. >>
(I can't believe I am even responding to this). I happen to have taken my lunch break right when it was announced.
Why does it always have to resort to mud slinging?
Shane
1. Pujols
2. Ramirez
3. Berkman
4. Jones
5. Reyes
I especially like this comment: "Swap Ryan Howard out for Pujols, and the Phillies win the division by 10 games. "
He gets it!!!! A sportswriter gets it!!!! There is hope that the MVP can be dragged out of the toilet.
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<< <i>Where's all of those Philly guys? They're awful quite. >>
Are you kidding? You guys can have all the MVP titles you want...I'll take the World Series title over that anytime! >>
Fer real.
<< <i>The top 5 on the Fox Sports writer's ballot were:
1. Pujols
2. Ramirez
3. Berkman
4. Jones
5. Reyes
I especially like this comment: "Swap Ryan Howard out for Pujols, and the Phillies win the division by 10 games. "
He gets it!!!! A sportswriter gets it!!!! There is hope that the MVP can be dragged out of the toilet. >>
yet St Louis still couldn't get to the playoffs..hmmmm, maybe Alberto wasn't that great......if he was worth 7 more games, then the Cards would of been the
playoffs!
JS
<< <i>yet St Louis still couldn't get to the playoffs..hmmmm, maybe Alberto wasn't that great......if he was worth 7 more games, then the Cards would of been the
playoffs!
>>
JS doesn't get it!!! A moron doesn't get it!!! If the smart people get it, and only the morons don't, then maybe the MVP can be dragged out of the toilet!
P.S. Nice grammar, Joe.
For all we know, the Phillies with Pujols could have lost 10 more games then they won.
They could have won 10 more, loss 9 more, stayed the same or you can pick any number
of amounts. You can't, and I repeat, can't claim a team wins more (or losses more) with the addition
of anyone player or players. You can say "They POSSIBLY would have won X amount of games with him instead of Y".
So I'm not sure exactly what that sportswriter 'gets'.
Steve
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<< <i>Where's all of those Philly guys? They're awful quite. >>
Most of us have jobs where we can't monitor message boards 24/7. Cardinals and Pujols fans tend to be unemployed.
Congrats to Pujols, but the race was much closer than anyone will ever admit.
I will take a World Series Championship anyday of the week over personal awards for a player. This would have just been icing on the cake for one of the greatest Postseason runs of all time. >>
How was this post season run special at all compared to other championship teams?
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Then I guess since it is soo hard to figure the contribution a player makes to wins/losses, there is no need to worry about whether a team signs Derek Jeter or Cesar Izturis...after all(according to you), we are just guessing on what their contributions does towards wins/losses.
Unless of course you have a crystal ball.
Of course GM's can THINK what will happen and thus they will sign and build teams according to what they feel.
Can anyone say for certain what will happen?
Not even you can do that Hoopster.
Steve
The ONLY consideration would be salary and how it affects what goes at other positions. Otherwise, YES, the Phillies would certainly be/or have been better off with Pujols. No qeustion, no hesitation. You can call it assuming all you want, but it is as safe to assume that, as it is to assume that today is Tuesday!
What confuses the matter to many is that the team may actually not get more wins(the following year), because there are many variables out of said players control...namely the teammates and luck. This is the error of many people's ways.
<< <i>For all we know, the Phillies with Pujols could have lost 10 more games then they won. >>
And for all we know, aliens might have abducted Pujols from the field; each is equally likely, but who can say for sure? Seriously, that line of reasoning doesn't lead anywhere, it leads everywhere - every possible trade becomes nothing but a random guess. But that's silly. Assuming nothing bizarre happens, the Phillies with Pujols would be expected to win many more games than they won with Howard.
<< <i>So I'm not sure exactly what that sportswriter 'gets'. >>
Of course you do.
Baseball star Pujols backing St. Louis bid for MLS
teixera getting $160 million wow...what will pujols get in a few years........
<< <i>Its not often you see an active athlete cross promote another sport.....just another testament to the man's character....
teixera getting $160 million wow...what will pujols get in a few years........ >>
So what do you do when Albert moves to one of the New York/Boston type teams?
ichirodeported, sniff sniff......hello there....
<< <i>there is no way he would sign with anyone but the cardinals.... >>
Ya think? I hope you're right, but I'm not overly optimistic.
I have heard the same things so it must be true!
Shane