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You have got to be kidding me ? 1960 #350 Mantle PSA 9

chaz43chaz43 Posts: 2,140 ✭✭✭
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Look at the lower right to left centering on this baby. I don't think it gets an "8" today. T/B doesn't look too great either. Somebody paid 5K for this card on a Mile High auction in October. Remember buy the holder and not the card ! chaz



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  • StopYurWhiningStopYurWhining Posts: 719
    eh, ive seen worse.
  • chaz43chaz43 Posts: 2,140 ✭✭✭


    << <i>eh, ive seen worse. >>



    I'd liek to see apic if you have any. chaz
  • StopYurWhiningStopYurWhining Posts: 719
    arent therea bout 9 threads right now on the same subject image
  • julen23julen23 Posts: 4,558 ✭✭
    chaz,

    agreed, but to b devi's advocate the Cert # is pretty old.

    J
    image
    RIP GURU
  • StingrayStingray Posts: 8,843 ✭✭✭
    I really try to stay away from cards that are graded with this type of flip.
  • chaz43chaz43 Posts: 2,140 ✭✭✭


    << <i>chaz,

    agreed, but to b devi's advocate the Cert # is pretty old.

    J >>





    I know it's an old flip that is why I said it probably wouldn't get the 8 by today's PSA standards. chaz
  • WinPitcherWinPitcher Posts: 27,726 ✭✭✭
    PSA was using 0 flips as recently as last yr. So I'm not certain this is an old flip.


    Some of my best purchases were 'old flips'


    Steve
    Good for you.
  • chaz43chaz43 Posts: 2,140 ✭✭✭


    << <i>PSA was using 0 flips as recently as last yr. So I'm not certain this is an old flip.


    Some of my best purchases were 'old flips'


    Steve >>



    WinPitcher- if that's not an old flip, then uh oh for PSA .......... chaz
  • stevekstevek Posts: 30,323 ✭✭✭✭✭
    There's an old saying, I think it goes something like "buy the piece of cardboard, not the piece of plastic" or something to that effect.
  • WinPitcherWinPitcher Posts: 27,726 ✭✭✭
    I don't see anything wrong with the card or grade. Would I pay 5k for it? NO


    Not sure what the problem is?


    Steve
    Good for you.
  • chaz43chaz43 Posts: 2,140 ✭✭✭
    Steve- look at the lower bottom right centering and compare it to the left lower side. It looks like PSA 7 centering to me, it's way off. chaz
  • WinPitcherWinPitcher Posts: 27,726 ✭✭✭
    I see it, the card is horizontal, so, perhaps it slid in under the 'eye appeal' thingy.

    I wouldn't mind owning the card, I just wouldn't pay 5 k for it.


    Steve
    Good for you.
  • themetalsignthemetalsign Posts: 555 ✭✭
    I'd appreciate it more if it was in an 8 holder. Or they forgot to put the O/C on the flip.




    Dave D.
  • chaz43chaz43 Posts: 2,140 ✭✭✭


    << <i>I see it, the card is horizontal, so, perhaps it slid in under the 'eye appeal' thingy.

    I wouldn't mind owning the card, I just wouldn't pay 5 k for it.


    Steve >>





    Not only that but it's got the "diamond cut" going on too. chaz
  • 123Slider123Slider Posts: 851 ✭✭
    ARE YOU KIDDING ME???

    image
    The best pitch to start a hitter off with is always strike one.
  • StopYurWhiningStopYurWhining Posts: 719
    pretty card.
    even better horizontal image
    image
  • stevekstevek Posts: 30,323 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I think this card grades higher in the horizontal position.
  • WinPitcherWinPitcher Posts: 27,726 ✭✭✭
    The real question here should be how much would a centered Mint 9 go for?

    We can debate here all day long if this card is an 8 or 9 or a 7 for that matter.

    The bottom line is what would a perfectly centered 9 go for?

    Steve
    Good for you.
  • WinPitcherWinPitcher Posts: 27,726 ✭✭✭
    So Chaz ( and others) are you saying that if you sent this card in raw and it received the PSA 9 which it did
    you would have called PSA up and demanded it be re graded? That it should be a 7 or 8?

    I wonder how some of you guys would be 'seeing' this card then.


    Steve

    Good for you.
  • HighChopperHighChopper Posts: 1,091
    I'll enjoy my piece of crap 6.

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    There's a hole in my head where the rain comes in.
  • CDsNutsCDsNuts Posts: 10,092 ✭
    I'd be willing to bet that it's trimmed on at least one edge and possibly two.
  • TheMcgwireMuseumTheMcgwireMuseum Posts: 631 ✭


    << <i>I'd be willing to bet that it's trimmed on at least one edge and possibly two. >>



    I'll guess left and top based on the horizontal
  • WinPitcherWinPitcher Posts: 27,726 ✭✭✭
    Lee that is a whole another story. I did not like the left edge when I first looked at the card.

    My neck hurt for about a day after too.


    As for the cert number has it been decided when it was graded?

    04..... I think were done last year.


    Steve

    Good for you.
  • detroitfan2detroitfan2 Posts: 3,366 ✭✭✭✭


    << <i>I'd be willing to bet that it's trimmed on at least one edge and possibly two. >>



    But PSA does grade handcut cards. Just not sheet cut.

    P.S. Hi Chaz.
  • itzagoneritzagoner Posts: 8,753 ✭✭
    "Carrie Ann Inaba."

    "NINE!"

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    "NINE!"

    "Bruno Tonioli."

    "NINE!"
  • chaz43chaz43 Posts: 2,140 ✭✭✭


    << <i>So Chaz ( and others) are you saying that if you sent this card in raw and it received the PSA 9 which it did
    you would have called PSA up and demanded it be re graded? That it should be a 7 or 8?

    I wonder how some of you guys would be 'seeing' this card then.


    Steve >>




    Steve- I would be shocked if I got a 9 on it. I would not send it back for regrading and I guess I would let the market determine it's value which is what happened. I hear a lot about buying the card and not the holder which is a lot of bull. I guess there are different grades within the grade like centered 8's for years always commanded a higher premium even though it is still an 8. chaz
  • chaz43chaz43 Posts: 2,140 ✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>I'd be willing to bet that it's trimmed on at least one edge and possibly two. >>



    But PSA does grade handcut cards. Just not sheet cut.

    P.S. Hi Chaz. >>



    That's right!!! Hooray for the Hand Cuts !!!!!!!!!! chaz

    PS : HI DetroitFan !! Hope you are having a great evening! chaz
  • WinPitcherWinPitcher Posts: 27,726 ✭✭✭
    I hear a lot about buying the card and not the holder which is a lot of bull.



    Chaz, the person that bought that card may have liked it for the amount he spent.

    No one has still yet said what a centered beast of a 1960 Mantle in 9 would go for.

    Lets say the card is not trimmed, the corners are sharp, the color is all there, I assume the gloss is too.

    aside from the centering (which IMO) is not as bad as you claim it to be the card is decent.

    I have seen worse examples is all I'm saying.


    Steve
    Good for you.
  • BrickBrick Posts: 5,001 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I like HighChoppers better. By the way is that PSA 9 holder a little frosty or is that just the scan?
    Collecting 1960 Topps Baseball in PSA 8
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    Ralph

  • chaz43chaz43 Posts: 2,140 ✭✭✭


    << <i>I like HighChoppers better. By the way is that PSA 9 holder a little frosty or is that just the scan? >>




    The holder looks ok. chaz
  • chaz43chaz43 Posts: 2,140 ✭✭✭


    << <i>I hear a lot about buying the card and not the holder which is a lot of bull.



    Chaz, the person that bought that card may have liked it for the amount he spent.

    No one has still yet said what a centered beast of a 1960 Mantle in 9 would go for.

    Lets say the card is not trimmed, the corners are sharp, the color is all there, I assume the gloss is too.

    aside from the centering (which IMO) is not as bad as you claim it to be the card is decent.

    I have seen worse examples is all I'm saying.


    Steve >>




    Ok Steve. chaz
  • WinPitcherWinPitcher Posts: 27,726 ✭✭✭
    For the 3rd time, does anyone know what a MINT 9 hi end 1960 mantle goes for?


    I too prefer the Ex/MNT card, but then again that is the grade I collect the most.


    Steve


    Good for you.
  • fattymacsfattymacs Posts: 2,581 ✭✭✭
    VCP data, can't look at any pics, draw your own conclusions:

    10/1/08 Mile High Auction | Image $4,989.05
    9/4/08 eBay Auction $5,388.00
    9/15/07 Memory Lane $8,101.63
    9/13/07 eBay $4,934.00
    6/11/07 eBay $4,400.00
    4/27/07 Mastro $4,060.80
    2/6/07 eBay $4,151.60
    12/8/06 Mastro $5,472.00
    8/19/06 Mastro $7,132.25
  • WinPitcherWinPitcher Posts: 27,726 ✭✭✭
    Thanks Macs. I see memory lane has the highest...ahem like it always seems to have.

    Stev
    Good for you.
  • psafanpsafan Posts: 232
    looks good to me, flip says 9
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