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1955 Topps Double headers...some grades in!

Just moved into a new house and started talking to the guy next door. He has a complete 53 topps set mostly vg/ex.
He also has a good amount of 1955 topps double headers. I would say he has anywhere from 100-125 cards and they are in factastic condition. With that said, I have never handled the double headers. These do have nrmt or better corners on most but not sure how the fold is graded? Has anyone here sent these in to psa for grading? Can some of you post some quality pics of some that you may have. What is the demand on these? I am trying to work out a deal where I get a percentage of the sales after grading. He has all the big cards, Ted williams,aaron,robinson etc..
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  • They assume folding as part of the card, thus it does not necessarily count against it.
    Collecting:
    Type Cards
    T-206 White Border
    Whitey Ford
    1955 Topps Double Headers

    and

    (1) 1934 Goudey Lou Gehrig #37 mid to low grade that presents well
  • tsalems1tsalems1 Posts: 3,488 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Thats what I thought but wasnt sure. Wonder what some of these cards bring in psa 8? I noticed pop report and there doesnt seem to be many in that condition. Some of the cards this guy has are atleast psa 8!
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  • slantycouchslantycouch Posts: 1,704 ✭✭✭
    Folds are graded as part of the card. As a matter of fact, I think PSA won't grade unfolded Doubleheaders.
  • regarding the fold:

    Originally distributed in one-card, penny packs with gum, these cards were manufactured in much smaller quantities than the regular 1955 Topps singles.

    "There's just not that many (Topps Double Headers cards) out there," said Don Spence, owner of the Registry's No. 1 Double Headers set.

    Most cards from this issue boast horizontal perforations that facilitate the folding of these cards, but non-perforated examples have surfaced. PSA will not grade the non-perforated singles.

    "It's rumored that a find of uncut sheets occurred some time ago and the non-perforated versions are believed to originate from those sheets," explained PSA president Joe Orlando.

    Because of their size, these cards were not graded by PSA until 1999, reports Ron Hobbs, owner of the No. 1 Registry set from 2002 to 2007.

  • tsalems1tsalems1 Posts: 3,488 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Here are some scans. I have a stack of these cards and will be sending many in this month. Too bad on the Aaron centering!
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  • SidePocketSidePocket Posts: 2,901 ✭✭✭
    Those are beauties. Are you getting them graded for him?

    "Molon Labe"

  • tsalems1tsalems1 Posts: 3,488 ✭✭✭✭✭
    yes I am.

    I will add more pics tomorrow. Problem right now is that I have no protective holders for them.
    What size top loaders do I need for these....

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  • jeffcbayjeffcbay Posts: 8,951 ✭✭✭✭
    Would it not be a good idea to ship them folded? I have no clue about these cards, except they're beautiful!
  • tsalems1tsalems1 Posts: 3,488 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Once they get back from PSA, they will hit ebay. Not sure how the demand is
    on these? I see a bunch or people working on registry sets which is a good sign.
    Also, doesnt seem to be too many high grades according to the pop report. Looks
    like the key on these are psa 7's or better? 8's probably get BIG $$$ - ?
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  • GriffinsGriffins Posts: 6,076 ✭✭✭
    I always really liked this set, because if you put them side by side they form a full panoramic.
    Here is an uncut panel I picked up about 5 years ago

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    I'll disagree with Don Spence, I don't think they are that hard to find- probably one of the easiest non main sets.
    Packs and boxes aren't too tough either

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    Always looking for Topps Salesman Samples, pre '51 unopened packs, E90-2, E91a, N690 Kalamazoo Bats, and T204 Square Frame Ramly's

  • DboneesqDboneesq Posts: 18,219 ✭✭
    Don't know a lot about the set, but I will agree with Griffins that the unopened packs are readily availble.

    That being said, many of the cards really look like they are in great shape. Best of luck to your neighbor and you in getting high grades from PSA and even higher bids on eBay.
    STAY HEALTHY!

    Doug

    Liquidating my collection for the 3rd and final time. Time for others to enjoy what I have enjoyed over the last several decades. Money could be put to better use.
  • nightcrawlernightcrawler Posts: 5,110 ✭✭
    tsalems1, awsome stuff. How cool is it that your neighbor has a small collection. And +1 for getting along with the neighbor, ha ha.


    Double headers are nice too, first I've seen of them.
  • one of my top 3 sets of all time.
  • julen23julen23 Posts: 4,558 ✭✭
    sweet
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    RIP GURU
  • stevekstevek Posts: 30,211 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Very nice!
  • bobsbbcardsbobsbbcards Posts: 3,254 ✭✭✭
    Those look great!! Since Anthony brought it up, here are all of the cards laid out so the panorama's show:

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  • QUITCRABQUITCRAB Posts: 1,017 ✭✭✭
    I recently put together a EX 1955 DH set. It is a great set. Three different stadium view panoramics are made by placing the cards together.(one is a night game!).
    The only thing that stinks about the set is that Banks is on the back not the front of a card. Topps stole the idea from the 1911 mecca double folds.
    The players checklisted are the same ones in the regular issue of series 1 and 2 in the 1955 Topps set.
    I found that that the cards where easy to obtain. Your cards should grade 8 (except the aaron) and they will bring nice money.
    Good Luck ! Scott
  • tsalems1tsalems1 Posts: 3,488 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Here are a few more pics including the Banks...

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  • tsalems1tsalems1 Posts: 3,488 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Anyone know what past sales have been on the ted williams , spahn and kaline in psa 8 on these?
    I think these have a shot at 8's.
    Jackie robinson will get a lower grade and the Aaron will get a O/C for sure...
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  • Here's the complete SMR article about this set here:

    Doubleheaders Article
  • tsalems1tsalems1 Posts: 3,488 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Great info!

    Thnx
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  • Anyone have a low grade Lou Ortiz from this set?
  • tsalems1tsalems1 Posts: 3,488 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Few more scans...

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    and here is the last card in the set with a BIG chunk missing image

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  • Nice group of cards. As to your question if you should send them in folded?? Don't!!! I recently submitted a few folded as I received them 20 or so yrs ago from sportscards +, and I received the nice Email from customer service

    Hello,
    In order to further process submission "zxcvbnm" we need you to agree to the folowing:

    I authorize psa to unfold the cards listed on submission form "zxcbnm" on lines xx-xy and cv-cy and release PSA of any liabilty for any damage that may occur when unfolding the product


    A phone call would not get it done I had to email a response to PSAimage

    SKY
    The Sky Pilot

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  • tsalems1tsalems1 Posts: 3,488 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Need a little help here...
    Im ready to send in some of these double headers but just noticed something...
    check out the backside of the banks card..
    notice the top of the card, you can see a small part of another card on top. Is this considered a MC?
    Or is this normal because around 80+ cards here are all like that. Only a few cards dont have that and have full white border all around it.
    Im wondering how PSA looks at this? If anyone has any, please help me out. Thnx!

    Here is the Banks card example..

    Banks....
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  • slantycouchslantycouch Posts: 1,704 ✭✭✭
    Sorry I can't help with your question, but I just saw this thread for the first time and those are beauties! Can't wait to see how they come back.
  • tsalems1tsalems1 Posts: 3,488 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Thank you...
    Hope someone can chime in and can help me with my question...
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  • VCP shows Williams PSA 8 had 3 sales around 2400 each; Span had one sale of SGC 88 at 425; Kaline had one PSA 8 sale at 1,328. The PSA 7 Kaline went for 165....

    Looks like the cards all have the extra print on the back.

    Nice series. Thanks for bringing it to the boards.
    1964 stand ups
    1975 mini's
    1954 Wilson Franks
  • There is a 55 Topps Double header PSA 7 Banks on e-bay now that has the extra print on the back.
    Collecting 1955 Topps BB
  • baseballfanbaseballfan Posts: 5,473 ✭✭✭
    i don't know much about these cards but they look great.

    good luck with them, very cool to see them all laid out to get that overview.
    Fred

    collecting RAW Topps baseball cards 1952 Highs to 1972. looking for collector grade (somewhere between psa 4-7 condition). let me know what you have, I'll take it, I want to finish sets, I must have something you can use for trade.

    looking for Topps 71-72 hi's-62-53-54-55-59, I have these sets started

  • bobsbbcardsbobsbbcards Posts: 3,254 ✭✭✭


    << <i>Is this considered a MC? >>


    In my experience, it is not a MC with the '55 Doubleheaders. In fact, the card would have to be almost miscut to not have the extra card showing on the back.
  • tsalems1tsalems1 Posts: 3,488 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Thnx for the help guys! Cards are all packaged up and being mailed tomorrow. I have 3 orders going in..
    1) 29 card Jan special at $5.00 per which includes all OPC baseball 1969-1977
    2) 24 card bulk lot all 1955 topps double headers
    3) 5 card lot january special #3 which includes 1955 topps double headers - ted williams,banks,j.robinson,kaline and killebrew.
    The ted williams is clearly the best and fingers are crossed for a PSA 8!
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  • stownstown Posts: 11,321 ✭✭✭
    Very nice.

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    So basically my kid won't be able to go to college, but at least I'll have a set where the three most expensive cards are of a player I despise ~ CDsNuts
  • tsalems1tsalems1 Posts: 3,488 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Line # Item # Cert # Grade Description Type Country
    1 1 14862632 NEAR MINT 7 1955 TOPPS DOUBLEHEADERS TED WILLIAMS-69 HAL SMITH - 70 Card US
    2 1 14862633 EXCELLENT-MINT 6 1955 TOPPS DOUBLEHEADERS AL KALINE - 45 CORKY VALENTINE - 46 Card US
    3 1 14862634 EXCELLENT-MINT 6 1955 TOPPS DOUBLEHEADERS HOWIE POLLET - 31 ERNIE BANKS - 32 Card US
    4 1 14862635 EXCELLENT-MINT 6 1955 TOPPS DOUBLEHEADERS H. KILLEBREW - 111 JOHNNY PODRES - 112 Card US
    5 1 14862636 EXCELLENT 5 1955 TOPPS DOUBLEHEADERS JACKIE ROBINSON-25 DON HOAK-26

    Not happy at all!
    I figured the robinson would grade a bit less because there is a indentation on it. Williams I thought for sure would grade a 8
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  • QUITCRABQUITCRAB Posts: 1,017 ✭✭✭
    Wow-what a let down-I would resubmit the Williams !!!
  • tsalems1tsalems1 Posts: 3,488 ✭✭✭✭✭
    rest of the grades pooped... image

    Line # Item # Cert # Grade Description Type Country
    1 1 14862637 NEAR MINT 7 1955 TOPPS DOUBLEHEADERS JACK SHEPARD - 23 STAN HACK - 24 Card US
    2 1 14862638 EXCELLENT 5 1955 TOPPS DOUBLEHEADERS MEL PARNELL - 119 TOM HURD - 120 Card US
    3 1 14862639 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1955 TOPPS DOUBLEHEADERS SPOOK JACOBS - 47 JOHNNY GRAY - 48 Card US
    4 1 14862640 NEAR MINT 7 1955 TOPPS DOUBLEHEADERS JOE COLLINS - 65 JACK HARSHMAN - 66 Card US
    5 1 14862641 EXCELLENT+ 5.5 1955 TOPPS DOUBLEHEADERS MONTE IRVIN - 3 RUSS KEMMERER - 4 Card US
    6 1 14862642 NEAR MINT 7 1955 TOPPS DOUBLEHEADERS DALE LONG - 115 FERRIS FAIN - 116 Card US
    7 1 14862643 NEAR MINT 7 1955 TOPPS DOUBLEHEADERS RAY JABLONSKI - 51 BOB KEEGAN - 52 Card US
    8 1 14862644 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1955 TOPPS DOUBLEHEADERS RON JACKSON - 49 JIM FINIGAN - 50 Card US
    9 1 14862645 NEAR MINT 7 1955 TOPPS DOUBLEHEADERS VIC POWER - 29 ED BAILEY - 30 Card US
    10 1 14862646 NEAR MINT 7 1955 TOPPS DOUBLEHEADERS BILL WILSON - 101 BILL TREMEL - 102 Card US
    11 1 14862647 EXCELLENT-MINT 6 1955 TOPPS DOUBLEHEADERS GUS ZERNIAL - 123 BOB TRICE - 124 Card US
    12 1 14862648 EXCELLENT-MINT 6 1955 TOPPS DOUBLEHEADERS TED KAZANSKI - 5 GORDON JONES - 6 Card US
    13 1 14862649 EXCELLENT-MINT+ 6.5 1955 TOPPS DOUBLEHEADERS PRESTON WARD - 97 DON ZIMMER - 98 Card US
    14 1 14862650 EXCELLENT+ 5.5 1955 TOPPS DOUBLEHEADERS BILLY GLYNN - 59 BOB MILLER - 60 Card US
    15 1 14862651 EXCELLENT+ 5.5 1955 TOPPS DOUBLEHEADERS DICK HALL - 57 BOB GRIM - 58 Card US
    16 1 14862652 NEAR MINT 7 1955 TOPPS DOUBLEHEADERS CHUCK HARMON - 55 BOB SKINNER - 56 Card US
    17 1 14862653 NEAR MINT 7 1955 TOPPS DOUBLEHEADERS JIM GILLIAM - 129 ELLIS KINDER - 130 Card US
    18 1 14862654 EXCELLENT-MINT 6 1955 TOPPS DOUBLEHEADERS JIM HEGAN - 67 JACK PARKS - 68 Card US
    19 1 14862655 NEAR MINT 7 1955 TOPPS DOUBLEHEADERS TOM WRIGHT - 75 BUNKY STEWART - 76 Card US
    20 1 14862656 NEAR MINT 7 1955 TOPPS DOUBLEHEADERS JERRY LYNCH - 73 HARRY BRECHEEN - 74 Card US
    21 1 14862657 NEAR MINT 7 1955 TOPPS DOUBLEHEADERS GAIR ALLIE - 71 GRADY HATTON - 72 Card US
    22 1 14862658 EXCELLENT-MINT 6 1955 TOPPS DOUBLEHEADERS WALLY WESTLAKE - 13 FRANK HOUSE - 14 Card US
    23 1 14862659 NEAR MINT 7 1955 TOPPS DOUBLEHEADERS KARL SPOONER - 19 JIM HUGHES - 20 Card US
    24 1 14862660 EXCELLENT-MINT 6 1955 TOPPS DOUBLEHEADERS JIM PENDLETON - 33 GENE CONLEY - 34
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  • PoppaJPoppaJ Posts: 2,818
    Very Nice ... Congrats!

    PoppaJ
  • poppa, i dont think he is very happy.
  • PoppaJPoppaJ Posts: 2,818
    Ichiro,

    I thought he might be with over half of them being 7s or 8s!?!?

    But I can certainly understand your point if he was expecting more of them to grade out higher than they did.

    I'd be happy with those 7s image

    PoppaJ
  • tsalems1tsalems1 Posts: 3,488 ✭✭✭✭✭
    thought for sure I would have gotten at least a couple more 8's...
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  • from the scans, i think they are accurately graded, I didnt think the Williams was going to get an 8 with that bad corner.
  • stownstown Posts: 11,321 ✭✭✭
    PM sent.

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    So basically my kid won't be able to go to college, but at least I'll have a set where the three most expensive cards are of a player I despise ~ CDsNuts
  • BPorter26BPorter26 Posts: 3,500 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I know you're not happy with the POP, but thosse are nice cards.
    "EVERYBODY LOVE EVERYBODY IT SAYS IT RIGHT THERE ON THE WALL" - JACKIE MOON
  • tsalems1tsalems1 Posts: 3,488 ✭✭✭✭✭
    PM's returned
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  • tsalems1tsalems1 Posts: 3,488 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Cards showed up today image

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  • bobsbbcardsbobsbbcards Posts: 3,254 ✭✭✭
    I can certainly understand your disappointment if you expected more 8s, but 7s on the '55 Doubleheaders are really good grades (and tough to get).


    CONGRATS!!! image
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