Opinions on this case

lsutigers1973

Was thinking of buying this case as a birthday present for myself. Looking for opinions on the legitimacy of the "unopened & unsearched" claim. I have bought from this seller before with no problems. The last was a 1989 Fleer case that had 2 packs with Griffey on top and one with Ripken. So I am fairly certain that case was untampered but then again, it was a much cheaper case.

1982 Topps rack case

Bosox1976

Am not a big fan of Kruk to begin with and clearly somebody ripped that tape off of the top...

tennesseebanker

Looks like it has been opened, I wouldn't. Racks are pretty easy to search.

DavidPuddy

Only buy SEALED stuff from kruck.
IMO he will "cherry pick" anything he can.

lsutigers1973

If the tape on top was still there I would feel better about it. Been looking for a legit 82 rack case for a while. Think I will pass on this one.

summerof68

What is more important here is not the reputation of the current seller but the fact that it was purchased from Kruk cards. For over five years now I have routinely seen Kruk list cases on ebay for sale. And a very high percentage of these cases have been opened or there is tape missing on the top as in this case. Additionally over the years I have seen Kruk routinely have auctions with lots such as (50) and (100) mint '89 fleer Griffey rookies while at the same time they will have an auction containing dozens of (opened) boxes of '89 fleer cello paks. It has always been a contention of mine that Kruk, from all their years of experience, have at their disposal all of the "sequencing orders" from all material of the 1980's. Because of this I decided years ago to never buy any unopened material from Kruk. I'd feel confident that this case was opened by Kruk and then cherry picked. Then it was resealed and sold to the current owner. Don't kid yourself, you can bet that Kruk knows the sequencing order for 1982 Topps raks and all the raks with the Ripken rookie were removed long ago and replaced with filler raks. Play it smart and wait until The Baseball Card Exchange has a similar case for sell.

lsutigers1973

<< <i>Additionally over the years I have seen Kruk routinely have auctions with lots such as (50) and (100) mint '89 fleer Griffey rookies while at the same time they will have an auction containing dozens of (opened) boxes of '89 fleer cello paks. >>



I am not defending Kruk and definitely not talking bad about Steve Hart, but BBCE currently has huge lots of PSA 9 and PSA 10 Griffey rookies available from 1989 Fleer. I personally have had great luck with the 89 Fleer cases from BBCE. I have also never had a problem with Krukcards. However, the opinions of a few here has convinced me to pass. Think I will just get a bunch of 80's junk wax boxes from BBCE.

fattymacs

Bill - You are a hopeless rip addict, I should know. I'm currently on step 2 of a 10 step program.

1. realize you have a problem
2. place order to BBCE
3. buyers remorse
4. anxiety waiting for package
5. euphoria when package arrives
6. mad rippage
7. "fix" afterglow
8. thoughts of the next packs will be better
9. return to step 2
10. quit the hobby

billwaltonsbeard

I'm just wondering why someone would think Kruk cards would spend the time and effort to cherry pick 89 Fleer Griffeys out of cello packs.

lsutigers1973

Love the list Rob. You forgot the part where you stare at the wrappers on the floor for 10 minutes wondering why you opened them all. Then you search the wrappers and the box 5 times hoping that maybe you missed one pack.

summerof68

The question was asked why would someone take the time to cherry pick Griffey cards from '89 fleer cellos? This is a legitimate question and here is the reason. '89 fleer cellos bring around .40 each on ebay when sold by the cello box. A person who knows the "sequencing order" knows precisely which cellos in each box contain the Griffey card. Raw "pak fresh" '89 fleer griffey cards should bring $1 to $2 each on ebay. So it is profitable to bust cello cases and take out all the griffey cellos and replace the cellos with non-Griffey cellos and then resale the cases and the raw Griffeys separately. For such a small profit it seems like a waste of time but people in this hobby will go to great lengths to make a buck. Plus you have to remember this Griffey card was booking for $25 years back so at that time it was a much more profitable practice. As a result alot of '89 fleer rak and cello cases that appear on ebay nowadays had the Griffey rookies removed years ago. So it is very important to only buy factory sealed cases with the original fleer tape.

lsutigers1973

I guess I am one of the exceptions with the 89 Fleer. Yes, I know the sequence and I do have quite a few unopened rack boxes that have been searched for sequencing. However, many still have the Griffey's in them for my son to find one day. I was only looking fo rthe variations of the Ripken and Randy Johnson. They will never be for sale.