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Yankees to make CC Sabathia a record offer

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Source: Yankees to make CC Sabathia a record offer

By RONALD BLUM – 3 hours ago

NEW YORK (AP) — Free-agent season opened Friday with the New York Yankees planning to give CC Sabathia a record offer for a pitcher. The Yankees formulated a proposal to the big lefty that would exceed Johan Santana's $137.5 million, six-year contract with the New York Mets both in total and average, a baseball official familiar with the negotiations said. He spoke on condition of anonymity because he was not authorized to divulge details.

Yankees general manager Brian Cashman was to make the offer to Sabathia's agents, Greg Genske and Scott Parker, either on Friday or in the next few days, the official said.

New York, whose streak of 13 consecutive playoff appearances ended, also plans to make offers to pitchers A.J. Burnett and Derek Lowe, the official said.

Cashman and Genske did not return telephone calls seeking comment.

Sabathia went a combined 17-10 for Cleveland and Milwaukee this year after winning the 2007 AL Cy Young Award, and is considered the best starting pitcher in this year's free-agent class.

Other top free-agent starters are likely will wait for Sabathia to set the price for pitchers.

"The signing of CC is going to create probably a truer market for a number of the pitchers, mainly because the clubs that are bidding on CC didn't get him, and the demand for the other pitchers will be greater," said agent Scott Boras, who represents free agents Oliver Perez and Lowe.

The 171 players who filed for free agency after the World Series could start negotiating money with all teams starting at 12:01 a.m. EST Friday. Boras, based in California, said his phone was ringing repeatedly late Thursday night.

"I got eight phone calls. They didn't wait till the business day. You're talking about owners, your talking about general managers, people taking very aggressive stances with particular players," said Boras, who also represents outfielder Manny Ramirez and first baseman Mark Teixeira, among the top free-agent sluggers.

"They wanted to make sure they were on the board making offers," Boras said.

Francisco Rodriguez tops the available relief pitchers, a group that also includes Brian Fuentes and Kerry Wood. Agent Paul Kinzer said he had received inquiries from four teams about K-Rod, who saved a record 62 games for the Los Angeles Angels.

"I just think we've got to be patient. We'll know when the fit's right," Kinzer said. "When we get closer, we'll probably meet with the people, maybe check out the area, living arrangements, that type thing, and then make a decision."

He also reported an aggressive market for another client, shortstop Rafael Furcal.

"There's been about five or six serious teams already on him today, and I expect that to even go up because there's been at least eight or more that have been in contact," Kinzer said.

Commissioner Bud Selig repeatedly cautions teams to be careful in their spending, but the economic downtown doesn't appear likely to depress salaries for top players.

"We think that the time of free agents will still be recession-proof," said Lew Wolff, owner of the low-revenue Oakland Athletics. "We think the second tier will present some opportunities."

Other high-profile free agents include pitchers Ryan Dempster and Trevor Hoffman; first baseman Jason Giambi; outfielders Garret Anderson, Bobby Abreu, Milton Bradley, Pat Burrell, Adam Dunn and Ken Griffey Jr.; catchers Jason Varitek and Ivan Rodriguez; and third baseman Casey Blake.

"A lot of the owners want to sit down and have a meeting with some of the players," Boras said. "There's a couple players in this market that pay for themselves, in Teixeira and Ramirez, and they know that."

It's rare that a player spends his entire career with one team. Wood wanted to stay with the Cubs, who instead acquired Kevin Gregg as a less costly alternative.

"It will be tough sitting on the other side," Wood said.

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  • stevekstevek Posts: 29,048 ✭✭✭✭✭
    In this economy?

    Madness.
  • stevekstevek Posts: 29,048 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Possible future newspaper headline?

    "New York Yankees file for chapter 11"

    Think it can't happen?
  • Old man Steinbrenner was a great businessman and owner. His sons Cheech and Chong will run the Yankees into the ground in this meltdown economy.
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    "The answer was in the Patriots eyes. Gone were the swagger and c0ck sure smirks, replaced by downcast eyes and heads in hands. For his poise and leadership Eli Manning was named the game's MVP. The 2007 Giants were never perfect nor meant to be. They were fighters, scrappers....now they could be called something else, World Champions."
  • lawnmowermanlawnmowerman Posts: 19,477 ✭✭✭✭



    << <i>Yankees to make CC Sabathia a record offer >>



    Why? Arod will still be on the team.
  • perkdogperkdog Posts: 30,689 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Good for NY, CC is the best pitcher in the game, forget about Johan! However the Yankees will not be much better next year regardless if they sign him or not, they are an aging bunch and it was painfully obvious last year that their pool of young talent is not all it was cracked up to be.
  • stevekstevek Posts: 29,048 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Old man Steinbrenner was a great businessman and owner. His sons Cheech and Chong will run the Yankees into the ground in this meltdown economy. >>



    Haven't they noticed the meltdown in the stock market and the meltdown in a number of those large NY financial firms, and the layoffs, etc, etc...I'd have to be sure of which many of those people are Yankees fans and bought a lot of those "expensive" corporate tickets, and I would have to believe that things like that are going to be the first, about the very first thing, on their list of things which must be cut, and what other companies out there are going to justify themselves picking up the slack and buying these types of tickets?

    Baseball should still be popular even in a recession/depression...we need a healthy "release" from the everyday pressures of life with some good entertainment, but my viewpoint is that a number of these "big boys" from Wall Street will now be home watching the games on TV, rather than going to the ballpark during these hard times...and we all for sure will be spending less money on these forms of entertainment to focus on "real life" such as saving money for our family's needs.

    Baseball now needs a salary cap, more than ever, or excessive spending such as this will without a doubt lead to negative consequences for the Yankees and perhaps other teams as well.
  • joestalinjoestalin Posts: 12,473 ✭✭


    << <i>Good for NY, CC is the best pitcher in the game, forget about Johan! However the Yankees will not be much better next year regardless if they sign him or not, they are an aging bunch and it was painfully obvious last year that their pool of young talent is not all it was cracked up to be. >>




    Can you really say that after the playoffs? The guy was 17-10, that isn't goin to get you into the hall. It might of been different if he was nails in the playoffs, but
    he wasn't. He has been blown up in almost every postseason game he has played. Yanks are reaching big time. Cole Hamels is the best pitcher in baseball.

    JS
  • perkdogperkdog Posts: 30,689 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>Good for NY, CC is the best pitcher in the game, forget about Johan! However the Yankees will not be much better next year regardless if they sign him or not, they are an aging bunch and it was painfully obvious last year that their pool of young talent is not all it was cracked up to be. >>




    Can you really say that after the playoffs? The guy was 17-10, that isn't goin to get you into the hall. It might of been different if he was nails in the playoffs, but
    he wasn't. He has been blown up in almost every postseason game he has played. Yanks are reaching big time. Cole Hamels is the best pitcher in baseball.

    JS >>



    Normally I wont engage you in a civil tone as 99% of your posts are filled with ridiculas crap but since this post is somewhat normal...

    One of the reasons CC got smashed in the playoffs is because the Brew Crew rode his arm into the playoffs, he pitched 8-9 inning gems on three days rest not to mention just about every outing he went 8-9 from late August through September and was unhittable. Hamels is up there but not in CC category which is the best! A big factor in his 17-10 record is due to him playing for a horrible Tribe team too, lets not forget that.
  • softparadesoftparade Posts: 9,276 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Good for NY, CC is the best pitcher in the game, forget about Johan! However the Yankees will not be much better next year regardless if they sign him or not, they are an aging bunch and it was painfully obvious last year that their pool of young talent is not all it was cracked up to be. >>



    look at Paul already talking smack. You and every other Yankee hating talking head have NO IDEA wht the Yankees will look like in April. Gimme a break.

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  • perkdogperkdog Posts: 30,689 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>Good for NY, CC is the best pitcher in the game, forget about Johan! However the Yankees will not be much better next year regardless if they sign him or not, they are an aging bunch and it was painfully obvious last year that their pool of young talent is not all it was cracked up to be. >>



    look at Paul already talking smack. You and every other Yankee hating talking head have NO IDEA wht the Yankees will look like in April. Gimme a break. >>



    Yup and not lying either, ofcourse I dont know for sure what you guys will be looking like in April-neither do you but it is a FACT that your younger guys did not amount to what you guys thought they were.


    How about doubling up on that case of beer thing Dan?
  • bman90278bman90278 Posts: 3,453 ✭✭✭


    << <i>Cole Hamels is the best pitcher in baseball. JS
    >>

    image Seriously, he is a very good pitcher and pitched really very well in the playoffs. I could be wrong, but I would think if the best pitcher in baseball played on the World Series Champs team he would likely have MANY more wins than 14. Lets see what Hamels can do in 2009 and if he can make it to the next level.

    Brian
  • softparadesoftparade Posts: 9,276 ✭✭✭✭✭


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    How about doubling up on that case of beer thing Dan? >>



    oh crap. Dan needs to make good on the Paul's beer image

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  • perkdogperkdog Posts: 30,689 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i> [

    How about doubling up on that case of beer thing Dan? >>



    oh crap. Dan needs to make good on the Paul's beer image >>




    Its all good, we can always double up and wait until next year...say if the Sox finish ahead of the Yankees ( Again ) you can ship me a half barrell of Bud Light- I would love to host a party in honor of the Yankees not making the playoffs image
  • grote15grote15 Posts: 29,698 ✭✭✭✭✭
    CC is a beast, but I'd be a little leery of breaking the bank with a long-term deal for a guy who has trouble keeping himself in shape.


    Collecting 1970s Topps baseball wax, rack and cello packs, as well as PCGS graded Half Cents, Large Cents, Two Cent pieces and Three Cent Silver pieces.
  • perkdogperkdog Posts: 30,689 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>CC is a beast, but I'd be a little leery of breaking the bank with a long-term deal for a guy who has trouble keeping himself in shape. >>




    Grote I think all those llbs actually help throw so many innings, beer and hot dogs seem to work for him!
  • BarndogBarndog Posts: 20,492 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>CC is a beast, but I'd be a little leery of breaking the bank with a long-term deal for a guy who has trouble keeping himself in shape. >>




    Grote I think all those llbs actually help throw so many innings, beer and hot dogs seem to work for him! >>



    beer and dogs (and smokes and women) worked for the greatest ballplayer of all-time (former Sox, former Yankee Babe Ruth), so why not for CC?
  • joestalinjoestalin Posts: 12,473 ✭✭
    I just love Boston and Dodger fans post season retoric. Cole is the man and has a ring to prove it!

    JS
  • grote15grote15 Posts: 29,698 ✭✭✭✭✭
    CC is a beast, but I'd be a little leery of breaking the bank with a long-term deal for a guy who has trouble keeping himself in shape. >>




    Grote I think all those llbs actually help throw so many innings, beer and hot dogs seem to work for him! >>



    beer and dogs (and smokes and women) worked for the greatest ballplayer of all-time (former Sox, former Yankee Babe Ruth), so why not for CC?


    Babe Ruth was a freak of nature, LOL...CC may turn out to be fine for the long haul, too, but pitchers who carry that kind of weight are often prone to lower body injuries and problems. As he gets older, the risk will be greater, too. Not saying it will definitely be a factor with CC, but if I have a choice between a guy like Johan or CC for a long-term deal, I'd prefer Joahn.


    Collecting 1970s Topps baseball wax, rack and cello packs, as well as PCGS graded Half Cents, Large Cents, Two Cent pieces and Three Cent Silver pieces.
  • I must agree with JS on this one.

    Cole Hamels and Jon Lester may be the best young lefties in baseball right now.

    Johann Santana and C.C. Sabathia are two of the better mid-career lefties out there.

    Jamie Moyer and Randy Johnson are the best senior citizen lefties out there. image
  • stevekstevek Posts: 29,048 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Yea, all that worked real well for the Babe - dead at age 53.
  • bman90278bman90278 Posts: 3,453 ✭✭✭


    << <i> I just love Boston and Dodger fans post season retoric. Cole is the man and has a ring to prove it! >>


    So tell me Mr JS,

    Being a Dodger or Red Sox fan has nothing to do about you being a HOMER and posting your usual non-sense on the board. It's great to support your home team, but you have to be realistic and honest to yourself. I mentioned Cole is a very good pitcher and pitched very well in the playoffs and yes he does have a ring to prove it, but to say he is the best pitcher in baseball is a BIG reach and not realistic. Again, if you look through the history of baseball, you will NOT find the BEST pitcher in baseball for that year who had a record similar to 14 and 10 who was either on the World Series Champs or a division winning team. Now if Cole was 14 and 10 on a team that was in the cellar, that could be another story.

    CC is far better than your pitcher and look at what Cliff Lee did last year. Also, look at what Tim Lincecum did on a bad team.

    As always, your ignorance and homerisms are showing to everyone. (no smile or wink wink)

    Brian

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