What is it? Pic to come... some kind of Reale ????Pic has been added..... what is it?

holeinone1972

I have a coin silver I think from 1778 in my hands.

Obverse lettering around edge....

Perlin VII Figratia

male figure design

the design on reverse looks just like this example except the lettering says: TEYPOPIPIN HISTAN (I believe)

the reverse looks like this:

I will post pics when my camera battery charges later....................... DOH

holeinone1972

or is it some kind of fake................................

TwoKopeiki

Oh, wow!

It's some kind of fake, indeed! Please tell me it's edged! Also, could you include the weight, as well?

This could be a contemporary crude counterfeit, but I'll wait for the edge / weight before sharing my conclusions.

holeinone1972

no way for me to weigh it........................

edged? not reeded or lettered but not quite smooth.................

DorkGirl

It's a fake or a 200 year old Hobo Reale.

lordmarcovan

That is one groovy looking fake.

Wassup wid' all the little swirlies in the fields, anyway?

That looks older, too... maybe a contemporary fake? Hm.

TwoKopeiki

Does anyone have an Unusual World Coins catalog? Can you check under "Egypt" and see if it's listed there?

coachleonard

wildest looking fake of a Spanish-Colonial silver coin I've ever seen--- that it's a "Ferdinand VII" coin dated "1778" is just the beginning of its oddity! I too wonder what all those swirly lines on the face of it are. If it's at least a roughly contemporary counterfeit, it's a definite keeper, as I've never seen a Spanish-Colonial contemporary counterfeit (and there's a fair number of them out there) like it

ormandh

There is one listed, but it has the date of 1920.

41mm
obv. Laureate bust of Ferdinand VII right
obv. legend: FERDIN (retrograde N) VII DEI GRATIA

rev. Crowned arms between pillars
rev. legend: CAIRO SAGA SAAD MEAWAD

ormandh

Someone else was wondering this twelve years ago.

Moneta

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Looks like a copper core with silver plating. Maybe a badly made counterfeit? A token? Or play money?

GDJMSP

OK I gotta ask, I agree it looks old, but if this was supposedly made as a contemporary counterfeit, why in the world would it have the legends it has on it ? They resemble nothing ever struck in a Spanish colonial mint. I mean it baffles me, I know counterfeiters may not be the sharpest tacks, but they aren't that stupid.

As for the squiggly lines on the surface, it looks to me like this whatever it is was struck through a piece of fabric - both sides. And the entire thing, not just a part of it. But what in the world are all the raised bubble like bumps on the upper reverse ?

coachleonard

well those raised bubbles on the reverse are meant to depict the bejeweled crown above the shield of arms

1jester

And the pillars look more like trumpets.

rec78

Dunno what it is -but it appears to be some kind of contemporary counterfiet. Could be worth quite a bit to a some collector of such items. JMO. Bob

masterhim990

Is this the same coin? I couldn't get the other pictures on this thread to load.

masterhim990

Also, I didn't catch what this coin is exactly it what is worth might be.

TwoKopeiki

I don't remember the original coin, but the one you posted seems to also be an imitation copy of a Spanish Colonial 8 Reales.

Typekat

Iberian bus token?

SimonW

A really bad copy at that

Sapyx

Given the roundness, my assumption would be that it's a jewellery imitation, intended to be mounted in a bezel for a piece of pirate-themed costume jewellery.

It's definitely not an actual coin, and not actually from 1778.