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Question on grading 1921 Standing Liberty Quarters

commoncents05commoncents05 Posts: 10,096 ✭✭✭
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I've been kind of studying Standing Liberty Quarters, and I thought I knew how to grade them. I was looking through some PCGS graded 1921s, and the grades are way off from what I thought they would be.

Example #1
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I couldn't believe it. Great detail on both sides, full rims. I thought at worst VG, and the graders must have been blind to grade it AG.

Then I keep looking around, and I see more and more PCGS graded coins like this.

So my question is: Why so low on these coins? The only thing I can come up with is that the date is not full, and maybe they're knocking it down because of that? That is pretty much as made though, the date is notorious for a weak date, a lot like the 1923-S. Can anyone confirm my theory or provide the real reason? Thanks in advance.

-Paul
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  • GoldenEyeNumismaticsGoldenEyeNumismatics Posts: 13,187 ✭✭✭
    It's because of the date.
  • lasvegasteddylasvegasteddy Posts: 10,432 ✭✭✭
    <<<I thought at worst VG, and the graders must have been blind to grade it AG. >>>

    that's what that coin is...a vg/f as early dates are supposed to be relaxed on the date as it was an issue to the series

    my take...definate vg/fine
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  • kevinstangkevinstang Posts: 1,521 ✭✭✭
    Going by the shield and rims I had it at VG8 or so, pretty good date detail for such a low grade example as well- see at least traces of the other digits. AG3 ? I'd pay that money for it any day.
  • jdimmickjdimmick Posts: 9,772 ✭✭✭✭✭
    These coins are supposed to be graded by the date (when date is worn to this level), as in this coin. The problem is , there is a big inconsistency amongst the TPG's as well as within the specific grading company themselves. I have seen similar coins graded VG-F by the same company.
  • BroadstruckBroadstruck Posts: 30,497 ✭✭✭✭✭
    A buddy of mine just bought this 1916 G-6.

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  • TomBTomB Posts: 22,055 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Consistent grading standards are rather elusive within the type II SLQs when they are circulated, which can be maddening. While the body of the coin looks terrific, the date is so weak that it would be a tough sell to most collectors.
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  • joecopperjoecopper Posts: 1,195 ✭✭✭
    AG3 seems a bit harsh to me
  • PawPaulPawPaul Posts: 5,845 ✭
    the 1921 quarter is graded (at this time by PCGS) by the amount of full and partial numerals showing
  • coolestcoolest Posts: 2,281 ✭✭✭
    The PCGS graders must be wizards because it looks to me like an extremely fine line between the grades of G and VG, or VG and F.

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