Opinions on this Mantle ball
athleticsfan
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Real, fake?
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A's World Championships-1910, 1911, 1913, 1929, 1930, 1972, 1973, 1974, 1989
A's World Championships-1910, 1911, 1913, 1929, 1930, 1972, 1973, 1974, 1989
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"oh, it's not good enough for you, but it's good enough for me" - homer j. simpson
<< <i>Looks fake to me just because stan says it's real. >>
Looks like you're still a tool. I guess some things never change.
Once he gets the PSA/DNA quick opinion results(if he decides to do such), you can eat your words. You're the fool who could not even tell the difference between real and facsimile autographs, even with them in your hands. Yet, I can spot them from just a scan on the internet. Remember the Jordan and McGwire magazines with the facsimlie autos? I sure do. Keep trying..
<< <i>IF you dont mind my asking, How are you so confident on that Mantle Auto? I dont really collect auto baseball other than I have a Ripken and Ryan I have gotten myself, but wanted to start with a half a dozen HOF'ers: Mantle, Williams, Gehrig, Musial, Aaron and Mays. I am not even sure I believe that PSA/DNA is a lock to ensure authenticy based on some of the stuff I have read. Is there a tried and true way to know your getting a real auto? Thanks in advance for the help >>
How am I so confident? Because I know my autograph stuff. I have been in the autograph business for many years. We even bought signed balls directly from Mickey, David, and Danny in the mid-80's. As I have said on here many times in the past, I know my HOF autographs. I have been tested on this board in the past, and all has checked out with PSA, just like I said they would.
Note: I have only been on the boards for a couple months, so forgive me for not recognizing you as the all knowing GOD of autographs.
<< <i>I appreciate the response, but sorry I asked.
Note: I have only been on the boards for a couple months, so forgive me for not recognizing you as the all knowing GOD of autographs. >>
I never claimed to be the God of anything. I was just giving you an answer to your question.
<< <i>I never claimed to be the God of anything >>
Don't get Stan started on the topic of God or religion. He may come unglued.
Hey Stan, the last time you posted here you said you were never coming back. You were not missed.
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<< <i>I never claimed to be the God of anything >>
Don't get Stan started on the topic of God or religion. He may come unglued.
Hey Stan, the last time you posted here you said you were never coming back. You were not missed. >>
We can clearly see who started this arguement. You were trolling for a fight. Well, it looks like you achieved what you set out to do. Feel better? And for the record, I can post here anytime I wish. You will not dictate when, where, how, or why I post.
This thread has nothing to do with religion. The only reason you hate me is because I exposed the difference between what you told people publicly on the board, and what you told me in a pm. It only exposed the phony person you truly are. Now, let's just drop this where it is. There is no need to keep this a going. You clearly have an axe to grind, but I would rather just post about the topics, and not argue with you.
I would have never even said another word to you on this forum, ever, had you not tried to start your bull. There are people like you in all parts of life. These types never contribute much, they just like try to drag people down.
For Stan
<< <i>I was just giving you an answer to your question. >>
A smart A$$ed answer at that. But whatever, It looks as though your REALLY LOVED here by the regulars, so I am not worrying about it!
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<< <i>I was just giving you an answer to your question. >>
A smart A$$ed answer at that. But whatever, It looks as though your REALLY LOVED here by the regulars, so I am not worrying about it! >>
And who are you, again? You totally took my reply in the wrong way. It was not meant in a bad or smart way towards you. I was just stating my experience with Mick's sig.
JFYI, I don't care what a few tools on this board think of me. There ARE great guys on here, and then there are the ones who just like to stir things up and pick at other members. They just can't let things go, and they always have an axe to grind. Once you get on their bad side, they just keep festering like a sore. There are these types in every walk of life.
If you're not going to worry about it, trust me, I will lose no sleep over it either.
Vendettas.
Steve
Sig looks real to me.
No comment on the other ball thread and too chicken to no comment in that thread.
Raw: Tony Gonzalez (low #'d cards, and especially 1/1's) and Steve Young.
<< <i>looks just like mine
Yeah, mine too. All 20 of them.
1994 Pro Line Live
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Ron
Buying Vintage, all sports.
Buying Woody Hayes, Les Horvath, Vic Janowicz, and Jesse Owens autographed items
Plus there are so many prolific forgers of a popular autograph such as this...and the forgers may even sign his name better than Mickey did. LOL
The ball is mine. It came from a major card show I attended in San Francisco about 20 years ago. I couldn't have paid more than $150 for it. The guy selling it must have had at least 500 auto'd balls for sale of which maybe a half dozen were single signed Mantle's. What I wouldn't give to be able to go back in time and visit that card show again today.
A's World Championships-1910, 1911, 1913, 1929, 1930, 1972, 1973, 1974, 1989
Not trying to put you or your ball down, just stating how I remember it. It was only after the Mick Died that
we saw the appreciation.
Steve
mine is the same way
my typing too
im typing fine now, 12-3am, lookout
I actually have a similar situation going with a Luckman signed '48 Bowman RC. My guess is that it was signed circa 1995-97 and I'm am supremely confident that it is authentic, but two board "experts" claim it is completely bogus. These same two folks, however, swear that the secretarial autos that most real experts acknowledge as secretarial are legitimate Sid signatures. I've done a lot of research on Luckman and have spoken with several people in the "know" and the consensus is that most of the current cut sigs are not actually Sid's, but since they're on a card, these board "experts" consider them the standard.
Perhaps we should all just accept that ANYONE that swears that a signature is 100% legit (unless they were present to witness the signature) still has to have room for error.
funny how things change . I got a Mantle , DiMaggio and Aaron for under 220 bucks
Always looking for Chipper Jones cards.
Im a very focused collector of cards from 1909 - 2012...LOL
This is all nothing new - this fraud has been going on for a long time but is especially rampant now because of the increased value of these signatures.
<< <i>The bottom line is there are enough people out there, who through innate skills which I certainly don't have, can look at something like an autograph and copy it to a tee quite easily, and with some practice can write it basically perfectly. Fortunately most of these type of people are honest, but the ones who aren't honest, can easily forge these signatures with no problem, and that's the basic inherent dilemma with collecting autographs of famous sports stars.
This is all nothing new - this fraud has been going on for a long time but is especially rampant now because of the increased value of these signatures. >>
Also note: Just because the "ball" is old or the piece of paper is "old" doesn't automatically mean the signature is genuine. Autograph scammers buy old unsigned balls and old pieces of paper, and simply "autograph" them. It's a brutal racket, no doubt about it.