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HUGE Paypal News

Just got this from an email. It's funny, because literally two days ago I was asking for help here (thanks Storm) regarding shipping to an unconfirmed address, and then today someone bought something from me from Australia....



We've made some fantastic improvements to our Seller Protection policy on eBay and wanted to share the good news. It's now easier than ever to be covered against item-not-received and item-significantly-not-as described claims, chargebacks, and reversals. Additional highlights include:


• No annual coverage limit - Every eligible claim is covered at no additional cost to you.

• International sales coverage - Go ahead, sell worldwide. Seller Protection extends to purchases made by buyers in 190 countries.

• Ship to unconfirmed addresses for eBay sales - Now you can ship to any address and eligible sales are covered.

There's nothing you need to do. These improvements apply to all eBay sellers in the U.S. and are effective immediately. For details, see our complete terms and conditions or click the button below.

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    BunchOBullBunchOBull Posts: 6,188 ✭✭✭
    This changes everything if it's as good as it sounds...time to read the fine print.
    Collector of most things Frank Thomas. www.BigHurtHOF.com
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    PoppaJPoppaJ Posts: 2,818
    The key word is "eligible".

    PoppaJ
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    I rec'd that too but it was in my Spam folder. ?
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    storm888storm888 Posts: 11,701 ✭✭✭
    "...It's now easier than ever to be covered against item-not-received and item-significantly-not-as described claims, chargebacks, and reversals. ..."


    As usual, their messengers have no idea what the "fine print" says.

    There is ZERO protection against SNAD claims. There never can be, there never will be.

    ///////////////////////////////

    ALL shipments will be at least "partially covered" re: "unauthorized use," and "INR."

    BUT, the only PP-aceptable INR defense is "proof of delivery."
    The only such proof that is acceptable internationally is EXPRESS. (About $30.00.)

    .........................

    Read All of SECTION 11 of the PP UA to understand the policy.


    11.5 What are the shipping requirements?

    Shipping requirements Protection for Unauthorized Payment

    Proof of Shipment X


    Protection for Item Not Received

    Proof of Delivery X

    Shipment within 7 calendar days of receipt of payment* X

    //////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////

    The positive part of the scheme is that sellers can ship to "unconfirmed US addys,"
    if they use DC or SC.

    And, sellers are protected against "unauthorized use" claims, if they ONLY have
    "proof of shipment." (By PP's definition, that might be as little as a USPS register
    tape with the zip and city on it. Still best to use DC on everything.)

    ///////////////////////////////

    If somebody can show me how to ship internationally, meet PP's requirements,
    and NOT spend $30 for shipping, I will be pleased.

    //////////////////

    The waiver of the confirmed addy was announced months ago, and is scheduled to
    start tomorrow.

    The change has NOTHING to do with "protecting sellers," although it may well
    increase sales.

    The problem EBAY finally figured out is that so many folks who used to use EBAY
    and PP, simply stopped doing so. NEW users will use both EBAY and PayPal
    without opening "full accounts."

    EBAY shoppers will buy as "registered guests;" no ID verification.
    Such shoppers will pay via PayPal WITHOUT having an actual PP-account.
    The platform will simply "clear the payment," like any other merchant
    account processor. The buyer WILL NOT be "registered" with PP and, thus,
    CANNOT be assured to have a "confirmed addy."

    ////////////////////////

    To realize how little this changes things for sellers, look at your PP transaction
    sheets from the past. You will likely find that the VAST majority of your sales
    were to folks with "confirmed addys."

    IF the new crop of buyers arrives, the change will at least allow them to
    pay for their item without leaving the seller to hang in the wind entirely
    naked.

    MANY shoppers - according to EBAY's "research" - are not interested in
    being EBAY members or opening up PP accounts. They just want to shop
    sometimes, pay with a credit-card, and get their stuff delivered. The new
    scheme should help accomplish that.

    ///////////

    The preliminary cutoff for "unregistered" buying/paying is 10-transactions.
    After 10, the buyer will be asked to "join" EBAY and open a PP account.
    Maybe they will do so, or maybe they will just go back to AMZN. I dunno.


    Folks Who Bite Get Bitten. Folks Who Don't Bite Get Eaten.
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    Sounds good, hope they really mean it.
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    gameusedhoopgameusedhoop Posts: 3,544 ✭✭✭
    It would seem that the Customs form is acceptable for items under $250, whether it is scanned or not. From the Paypal site:

    Shipping From Shipping To Value Of Items Shipping Services
    From Anywhere
    To Anywhere
    Any value Any international shipping service that provides door-to-door tracking that is viewable online, such as those offered by UPS, FedEx, or DHL

    From United States
    To United States
    Less than $ 250 USD USPS: any service with Delivery Confirmation

    From United States
    To United States
    $ 250 USD or more USPS: any service with Signature Confirmation

    From United States
    To Anywhere
    Less than$ 250 USD USPS: Priority Mail with the Customs Declaration form (tracking not available for all destinations)

    From United States
    To Anywhere
    $ 250 USD or more USPS: Express Mail
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    storm888storm888 Posts: 11,701 ✭✭✭
    From United States
    To Anywhere
    Less than$ 250 USD USPS: Priority Mail with the Customs Declaration form (tracking not available for all destinations)

    From United States
    To Anywhere
    $ 250 USD or more USPS: Express Mail


    ////////////////////////////////////////////


    (tracking not available for all destinations)

    In practice, that provision makes EXPRESS the only one that fits
    into the scheme for items of any/all values.

    ...................


    "Any value Any international shipping service that provides door-to-door tracking that is viewable online, such as those offered by UPS, FedEx, or DHL.


    When you call PP, they state that EXPRESS is the USPS service that qualifies for SP.

    ///////////

    An item of $250 can either eat or collect the EXPRESS mailing costs. (About $30.)
    Cheaper items cannot.




    Folks Who Bite Get Bitten. Folks Who Don't Bite Get Eaten.
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    storm888storm888 Posts: 11,701 ✭✭✭
    "...UPS, FedEx, or DHL..."

    ////////////////////////////////

    In Canada, some or all of those outfits charge a HUGE fee to actually deliver
    the item once it clears customs.

    If the buyer balks about paying the EXTRA fee, the company can/will pursue
    collection efforts against the US seller.

    The EBAY S+H board is full of horror stories on the issue.

    Folks Who Bite Get Bitten. Folks Who Don't Bite Get Eaten.
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    UPDATE:



    << <i>PayPal recently launched some fantastic improvements to Seller Protection for items purchased on eBay. You should have received an email from us describing these improvements.

    Unfortunately, this email incorrectly states that it's now easier than ever to be covered against items-significantly-not-as-described and items-not-received claims, chargebacks, and reversals. To clarify, the email should have said it's now easier than ever to be covered against unauthorized payments and items-not-received claims, chargebacks, and reversals. Our improved Seller Protection does not extend coverage to items-significantly-not-as-described claims, chargebacks, and reversals.

    The other important improvements to Seller Protection include:


    • No annual coverage limit - Every eligible claim is covered at no additional cost to you.

    • International sales coverage - Seller Protection extends to purchases made by buyers in 190 countries.

    • Ship to unconfirmed addresses for eBay sales - Now you can ship to unconfirmed and confirmed addresses and eligible sales are covered.

    There's nothing you need to do. These improvements apply to all eBay sellers in the U.S. and are effective immediately. For details, see our complete terms and conditions or click the button below.

    We apologize for any confusion this caused and want to thank you for your patience and support of our ongoing efforts to provide Seller Protection to all eBay Sellers using PayPal. >>



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