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Grrr! Definitely Not A PSA 10 Montana Rookie In My Opinion ...

JackWESQJackWESQ Posts: 2,133 ✭✭✭
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Grrr!! Definitely not a 1981 Topps Joe Montana PSA 10 in my opinion!

/s/ JackWESQ

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  • tennesseebankertennesseebanker Posts: 5,434 ✭✭✭
    t/b centering sucks, Psa 8.
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  • julen23julen23 Posts: 4,558 ✭✭
    i agree 101%....

    an art not a science it is.

    J
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  • tennesseebankertennesseebanker Posts: 5,434 ✭✭✭
    Has that thing been cracked ? Right side looks frosted.
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  • TheHunTheHun Posts: 1,690
    Another great reason to spend money on graded cards ...

  • lawnmowermanlawnmowerman Posts: 19,477 ✭✭✭✭
    Just win mine Jack. I noticed you bid on it already image

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  • VitoCo1972VitoCo1972 Posts: 6,135 ✭✭✭
    Jack, sometimes these "oh my god, look at this eBay auction" threads are fun, but it's getting a little old. I'm sorry, I'm not trying to be a jerk, I just had to say it.
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  • thunderdanthunderdan Posts: 3,036 ✭✭✭
    Unbelievable. That one's not even close to Gem Mint.
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  • tennesseebankertennesseebanker Posts: 5,434 ✭✭✭
    Link ??

    Matt, your buying Psa 10 83 donruss ???????????????????image
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  • lawnmowermanlawnmowerman Posts: 19,477 ✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Link ??

    Matt, your buying Psa 10 83 donruss ???????????????????image >>




    No. I took lsutigers sig line image

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  • JackWESQJackWESQ Posts: 2,133 ✭✭✭
    Dear VitoCo1972,

    No problem. I'll happily "lay off." I think part of it, for me, is to alert people to what appears to be suspect auctions.

    As Joe Orlando says in every issue of SMR, "Never get cheated" ... !

    /s/ JackWESQ
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  • PoppaJPoppaJ Posts: 2,818 ✭
    ,,,,,,,,, Grrr!! Definitely not a 1981 Topps Joe Montana PSA 10 in my opinion! ,,,,,,,,


    Jack,

    .... in my opinion wasn't necessary. Say it with conviction "DEFINITELY NOT A PSA 10!"

    plus, the black dot on the back of the card (border) really adds a lot of beauty to this 9th Wonder of the World image

    PoppaJ

  • lawnmowermanlawnmowerman Posts: 19,477 ✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Has that thing been cracked ? Right side looks frosted. >>




    I just noticed that Barry. I would lean toward that theory myself.

    A blind guy wouldn't have put a 10 on that card.

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  • PubliusPublius Posts: 1,306 ✭✭
    WIWAG II ?

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  • EagleEyeKidEagleEyeKid Posts: 4,496 ✭✭
    I agree that the right side looks frosted.
    It's an older slab too. I think the old switcheroo has been done
    here.
  • nightcrawlernightcrawler Posts: 5,110 ✭✭


    << <i>Dear VitoCo1972,

    No problem. I'll happily "lay off." I think part of it, for me, is to alert people to what appears to be suspect auctions.

    As Joe Orlando says in every issue of SMR, "Never get cheated" ... !

    /s/ JackWESQ >>





    I agree with both guys. Jack maybe you could modify the thread title, and just keep one official thread going for ebay wild and crazy auctions, and scammer auctions.

    Just a thought, carry on.



    Ya, that Montana has issues.
  • shagrotn77shagrotn77 Posts: 5,626 ✭✭✭✭
    Man I was just going to start a thread on this card, but you beat me to it. It's definitely a tampered case.
    "My father would womanize, he would drink. He would make outrageous claims like he invented the question mark. Sometimes he would accuse chestnuts of being lazy. The sort of general malaise that only the genius possess and the insane lament. Our childhood was typical. Summers in Rangoon, luge lessons. In the spring we'd make meat helmets. When we were insolent we were placed in a burlap bag and beaten with reeds - pretty standard really."
  • lsutigers1973lsutigers1973 Posts: 11,093 ✭


    << <i>Jack, sometimes these "oh my god, look at this eBay auction" threads are fun, but it's getting a little old. I'm sorry, I'm not trying to be a jerk, I just had to say it. >>



    I also concur.

    P.S. Mike is a jerk he just wasn't trying to be with that statement.
  • thehallmarkthehallmark Posts: 1,332 ✭✭✭
    Can I vote the other way? Jack, these threads aren't getting old at all.

    It's good to get a sense of what is going on with the slabbing of very high end/high profile cards and it's informative to read people's reactions here when something about those cards/slabs is suspect.
  • mtcardsmtcards Posts: 3,340 ✭✭✭
    I agree, I love the threads on idiot ebay auctions. If you dont like the thread...DO...NOT..READ...IT!!!!!
    IT IS ALWAYS CHEAPER TO NOT SELL ON EBAY
  • julen23julen23 Posts: 4,558 ✭✭
    i think it's proper for board members to share the good & bad in terms of grading, regardless of how
    crazy the title of the thread is.

    ignoring it & acting like these problems don't exist is simply irrational captain.

    j

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  • GoDodgersFanGoDodgersFan Posts: 1,392 ✭✭✭
    This board is all about information and shared knowledge among members. keep it up.

    Thanks.
  • sayheykid54sayheykid54 Posts: 779 ✭✭
    The holder has been opened on the right side. The card appears to have been swapped with a lower quality rookie.
  • lsutigers1973lsutigers1973 Posts: 11,093 ✭
    No one said these threads weren't informative and even fun to read. All we are saying is that we do not need 10 different threads every day for 10 different eBay auctions.
  • StopYurWhiningStopYurWhining Posts: 719
    more threads please.
  • itzagoneritzagoner Posts: 8,753 ✭✭
    can't wait for the thread on the cracking of Hannah Montana. image
  • StopYurWhiningStopYurWhining Posts: 719
    i think that Montana's been cracked a few time already.
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  • EagleEyeKidEagleEyeKid Posts: 4,496 ✭✭
    I agree, I love the threads on idiot ebay auctions. If you dont like the thread...DO...NOT..READ...IT!!!!!

    +1 for not minding
  • recbballrecbball Posts: 1,527 ✭✭✭
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  • chaz43chaz43 Posts: 2,140 ✭✭✭
    That holder has been cracked open, no doubt about it. chaz
  • larryallen73larryallen73 Posts: 6,069 ✭✭✭
    Dear Mr. JackWESQ:
    My day is ruined since I have opened this thread. I will be retaining counsel to help make me whole for the emotional damage I suffered. I can't believe you would be so hurtful and mean to start a thread highlighting an Ebay auction with a PSA card that appears to be of questionably provence. It's not like this is a message board to discuss PSA graded cards. My day is ruined and my life is ruined. You will hear from my counsel!

    Good Day

    Larry Allen
  • baseballfanbaseballfan Posts: 5,473 ✭✭✭
    yeah that doesn't look good
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  • dizzledizzle Posts: 1,051 ✭✭
    Yes, the threads about potentially bad sellers and or cards is so old..

    we need more threads about
    Paypal shipping
    feedback on ebay
    shipping prices on ebay
    VCP gripes
    slow shipping from ebay sellers
    slow payments from ebay buyers
    Fandango's man crush on Pujols
    Longest wait for a submission

    and so on.......................
  • julen23julen23 Posts: 4,558 ✭✭
    +1 mancrush reference....

    j
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  • larryallen73larryallen73 Posts: 6,069 ✭✭✭
    I would argue that Fandango has more than a mancrush on Pujols. I believe it's likely in the stalker category.
  • bcwcardzbcwcardz Posts: 82
    without a better scan or pic its hard to say.Grading cards from lowsy pics is not really fair.The only way to make a fair analysis would be to have the card in hand for inspection.Just my 2 cents.
  • dizzledizzle Posts: 1,051 ✭✭


    << <i>without a better scan or pic its hard to say.Grading cards from lowsy pics is not really fair.The only way to make a fair analysis would be to have the card in hand for inspection.Just my 2 cents. >>



    You need a better pic to judge the centering on the card in question?
  • jimq112jimq112 Posts: 3,511 ✭✭✭
    His Erving card looks like it was cracked at the bottom. No seller feedback and low dollar purchase feedback. Seems like a scam.

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  • nightcrawlernightcrawler Posts: 5,110 ✭✭


    << <i>His Erving card looks like it was cracked at the bottom. >>





    IMO, the top looks like it has a shadow, and the bottom looks over illuminated from the scanner.
  • jimq112jimq112 Posts: 3,511 ✭✭✭
    Yep, I looked at his coins and they have the same scanner marks.
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  • stevekstevek Posts: 30,174 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Maybe some would disagree but I've always believed it's important to relay information such as scammers cracking open the slabs and putting in lesser grade cards. Not only is it all about helping our fellow card collectors, but it makes our collections more valuable because buyers aren't wasting their money buying from scammers and getting disillusioned about the hobby...when they're buying they're hopefully buying from us...reputable ebay sellers, and in theory will have more money and interest to spend on collecting cards.

    So threads like this are a win-win for us and a lose-lose for scammers...and that's a good thing.
  • nightcrawlernightcrawler Posts: 5,110 ✭✭
    Here's a good one. Don't these bidders know about ebay?

    I was looking at this Yzerman rookie on NHL auction site er something??? $320 bucks current bid???
    Yzerman RC PSA8 T/B centering not good.

    And here's a nice one for $114 on ebay.
    Yzerman RC PSA8

    And this guy's got 6 beauties, some with bang on centering for $128.
    Yzerman RC PSA8


    I hope AJ's not lookin, he's got some nice stuff, and a good ebayer.


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